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Jan 25, 2012 7:19 PM CSTWhat would be best change for USPresidency?
LoganGerken
LoganGerkenLoganGerkenMalone, New York, USA36 Threads 36 Polls 5 Posts

What would be best change for USPresidency?(Vote Below)

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6year term, 2term max
5
19%
6year term, 1term max
2
7%
2year term, 6term max
1
4%
4year term, 3term max
7
26%
NO political party for presidents
11
41%
NO vetoPower for presidents
0
0%
ONLY MALE presidents
1
4%
Total Votes
27
somethings got to change?...
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Jan 25, 2012 8:31 PM CST What would be best change for USPresidency?
Foxxie
FoxxieFoxxieBrisbane, Queensland Australia40 Threads 7 Polls 276 Posts
I won't because I am not American, however I have a few thoughts.

1/ 6yr2tm - Provides the President with greater power to make decisions that he/she thinks are good for the nation in the long term, although mid-terms could still stuff that up.
2 terms maximum is logical if you really are desperate for a cap as a good leader can use their skills as long as they are useful, however a cap is probably pointless with 6 year terms as not many leaders would still be interested after 12 years in the job given that most would be close to retirement or even over retirement age and would face upward pressure to retire. Perhaps replace the 2 term max with a compulsory retirement age of 70, 75 or 80 so that a really good leader can do a third term if the public vote for it.

2/ 6yr1tm - Also provides the President with greater power to make decisions that he/she are good for the nation in the long term, however I would not recommend having only a single term. It would just be a potential waste of an excellent leader (be they Republican or Democrat). Many democratic nations have leaders who serve longer than 6 years and they don't suddenly become Kings. Do you really believe the US military would just allow a President to rock up one day and say "Hey - I'm the King!".

3/ 2yr6tm - Are you referring to Presidential elections at midterms as well? That would not work. How can a President follow the mandate they were given if the first time they make a change the unhappy people vote him/her out of office. Secondly you would not see Presidents making long term decisions because they would be afraid of losing office. I think this option would see the beginnings of a weakening of the office of President and a simultaneous growth in power of the sitting leader of the major party in congress. If you were to do that you may as well go the whole hog and make the President a puppet or make the sitting leader of the party in control of congress automatically the President. Essentially for the 2yr6tm option to work with the current government structure you would need to increase the number of people voting to stop disgruntled people changing the leadership every two years. That would require manditory voting with fines for not voting.

4/ 4yr3tm I think thats the best option. That way the President can implement their mandate and if they are an excellent leader their talents are not wasted after two terms. An option here that you have not addressed is the possibility of replacing midterms with minimum 2 year terms, so that the President can call an early election if they choose, but must wait no longer than four years. Quite a lot of nations do that and while some say it benefits the party in power it can also work against them. More often than not they call an early election to cut their losses. I personally prefer set terms.

5/ Apolitical President - Wasn't that the original plan? I doubt you could enforce it without a complete transfer of executive power to a cabinet style ruling body within congress and having your leader of the party in majority as the equivalent of a Prime Minister. Maybe call them the Secretary General or something like that, although in truth they would be just like any other Prime Minister with a different role. The positives - you can choose a President who really embodies the spirit of the American people. Someone to look up to regardless of political party. I just don't see how you could have an apolitical President and have them retain their power. As I heard an American political commentator say at your last Presidential election; the President in power chooses leaders across the board, then slowly disenfranchises the ones from the other party until they only have leaders from their own in prominent places. (He gave examples but I can't remember which).
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Jan 25, 2012 8:32 PM CST What would be best change for USPresidency?
Foxxie
FoxxieFoxxieBrisbane, Queensland Australia40 Threads 7 Polls 276 Posts
6/ No vetopower for Presidents. I know stuff all abut this so forgive me if I am barking up the wrong tree. If this means that the President can veto the power of congress then it is certainly a quirk, and certainly not democratic in nature.

7/ Only male Presidents. This stuffs up your poll because some jokers will vote for this one just to get a rise out of the women who read the poll. Tbh I have not seen a female contender for your top job who I thought was decent for the job. Having said that I would imagine there would be thousands scattered around the country. You really make it hard for a decent hard working man or woman to apply for the top job with all the malarky leading up to the election. Obviously only a rep of the two top parties will win, so with all the expense of the charade around the states taking place at the moment, how can a excellent candidate without millions in their pocket compete with a millionaire or billionaire. You should ditch that system or you will never have another non-millionaire President again.

At the end of the day I think your best bet is having the leader of the majority party in Congress be President until that party is no longer in majority. It would save a lot of media nonsense and would also encourage people to vote for their local congress candidate. Leave the choosing of the party leaders to the sitting members.
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