Personally I dont value marraige, I dont need a piece of paper or a big day out to know Im in love. I would be totally content with being engaged permanently, also Im realistic and sometimes things just dont work out........being married makes it more difficult to walk away.
JustLittleMe: Personally I dont value marraige, I dont need a piece of paper or a big day out to know Im in love. I would be totally content with being engaged permanently, also Im realistic and sometimes things just dont work out........being married makes it more difficult to walk away.
im skeptical on marriage myself.. on my mams side of the family.. theres 5 of them 2 sisters and brothers and only 1 marriage worked out.. does that mean only 1/5 last
i totally agree with the sense of paper.. doesnt make you any more in love.. id love the big day but what it entails after i dont really know if i want it as it complicates things with so many couples..
im not 1 4 working at the reltionship either if it doesnt work.. it doesnt work.. cant force it..
gingerrails: i ask because i have friends who want 2 spend forever with someone..
but with me its to be happy no matter how long it lasts i dont expect "forever" with every man i meet..
so whats your aim or hope.. would you prefer staying with someone 2 go on 2 marry them.. is that all your looking for?
or just a relationship so 2 speak..
dunno.... i think i would have to be in the relationship to see what way i would like to go in, the forever bit be that in a relationship or in marriage is the important bit. the cool bit
JustLittleMe: Personally I dont value marraige, I dont need a piece of paper or a big day out to know Im in love. I would be totally content with being engaged permanently, also Im realistic and sometimes things just dont work out........being married makes it more difficult to walk away.
I met my partner on here and we got married earlier this year. The "piece of paper" IS necessary, if you want legal security for yourself - especially if children are involved.. The "big day out" is not necessary, no, and some couples do seem to do it to simply impress others. I personally had two witnesses, the local Judge and a large amount of very reasonably priced wine, and I had a ball!
Why be engaged permanently? That, to me, would be like being in limbo, emotionally...Going to the step of getting engaged, with a ring I assume, is no different than that piece of paper.
Being married certainly doesnt make it any harder to walk away that if you are not - especially if you are in a long term relationship. The only difference is, that if you are married it makes it EASIER to obtain what is rightfully yours out of the relationship.
In answer to the OP, I would say that if one never goes into a relationship with expectations, you are more likely to find what you are looking for. Thats exactly what happened to me.
i'm a marriage person. it's a nice day out for you, your partner and those close to you. fair enough if both people don't want to get married that's personal choice at the end of the day whatever makes you happy
it is true though that marriage also makes sense from a financial point of view
jonathan_heart: i'm a marriage person. it's a nice day out for you, your partner and those close to you. fair enough if both people don't want to get married that's personal choice at the end of the day whatever makes you happy
it is true though that marriage also makes sense from a financial point of view
id disagree.. my father had to give my mother a few hundred thousand.. i dont see that as a good finalcial move..
robpacciani: id disagree.. my father had to give my mother a few hundred thousand.. i dont see that as a good finalcial move..
If your father and mother had been together for a long time, which I assume they were, then - married or not - the financial settlement arrived at would probably not have been much different..
ogdensburgbabe: If your father and mother had been together for a long time, which I assume they were, then - married or not - the financial settlement arrived at would probably not have been much different..
However, each case is different of course..
well if they werent married, she wouldnt have been entitled to a penny..
ogdensburgbabe: The laws regarding common law relationship rights, especially long term ones involving property and children, are much the same these days.
ah right, to be honest i didnt know that.. thanks for the info
robpacciani: sorry for being stupid, but what is the pre-nup procedure?
its a pre-nuptual agreement. its like a contract binding both parties. a part of the contract often stipulates that neither party is entitled to anything financially should the relationship end
jonathan_heart: its a pre-nuptual agreement. its like a contract binding both parties. a part of the contract often stipulates that neither party is entitled to anything financially should the relationship end
ahh i see but when people are in love, i doubt pre-nups are even mentioned a lot of the time..
in all fairness it's nothing against any of the ladies on this site, or anywhere else. it's just that there is a percentage of women in the world that will and do screw guys financially when it comes to relationships
jonathan_heart: in all fairness it's nothing against any of the ladies on this site, or anywhere else. it's just that there is a percentage of women in the world that will and do screw guys financially when it comes to relationships
yip... an example is my wretched mother... money on the brain
jonathan_heart: well a big part of the problem is the judges and how much they award in cases. often they award far more than is needed to support the ex-partner or child. it's just not right. but the legal system is totally to blame for that
The judge worked it out on a percentage of his gross wage rather than what the child needs...also he is keeping the child 3 days a week plus holidays and stuff. He was never married to his ex but she has given up work, living in a 3 bedroom house with just her and the kid, drives an 08 car and lives off his supposed child allowance.
jonathan_heart: in all fairness it's nothing against any of the ladies on this site, or anywhere else. it's just that there is a percentage of women in the world that will and do screw guys financially when it comes to relationships
i agree with ya there is gold diggers out there and just cae about money sure i know a few women like that and dont get on with um for that reason..
well i guess if you knew the person very well and you got on very well the person it would depend on what the couple wanted and as long both are happy in life
gingerrails: i ask because i have friends who want 2 spend forever with someone..
but with me its to be happy no matter how long it lasts i dont expect "forever" with every man i meet..
so whats your aim or hope.. would you prefer staying with someone 2 go on 2 marry them.. is that all your looking for?
jonathan_heart: thats why they now have pre-nups. for a long time guys have got screwed financially from divorces
In this country prenups are really a waste of money - the courts aren't obliged to enforce them theres nothing in Irish law stating they have to. There is nothing to say they are illegal which is the common thought but until Irish laws change to oblige the courts to enforce the agreements they are just a waste of money so people your wads of cash still wouldnt be protected.
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but with me its to be happy no matter how long it lasts i dont expect "forever" with every man i meet..
so whats your aim or hope.. would you prefer staying with someone 2 go on 2 marry them.. is that all your looking for?
or just a relationship so 2 speak..