I would judge for myself, but keep in mind what was told to me and make an informed decision. (my half-sister has been doing rumour things about me most of her life, she goes out of her way to do it.....BECAUSE SHE IS NOT HAPPY in her life. Perhaps it is a case of jealousy!
mychelle: No, a person will show you who they while you are talking to them, you observe their body languages. They will say and do things excessively, crying, clinging, blaming others, emotional outbursts etc.
How did you come up with that? Just really curious
VeritaasLondon, Greater London, England UK5,839 posts
mychelle: No, a person will show you who they while you are talking to them, you observe their body languages. They will say and do things excessively, crying, clinging, blaming others, emotional outbursts etc.
Not necessarily so. There are some that are exceedingly clever as masking the kind of behaviour you have described above.
Veritaas: Not necessarily so. There are some that are exceedingly clever as masking the kind of behaviour you have described above.
Always make your own mind up it may take a while but the truth comes out and then you know.....Some folk may give you the wrong information for various reasons....But if you decide to drop them on the information you have been given you may live to regret it.....Howver the reverse also applys...Only your own judgement will help and if you get it wrong you only have to worry about your choice....JMO
mychelle: that's true too, but the ones the Op has come across have open up to him , because he is good at getting people to confide in him.
she hasn't confide anything in him and he's asking what to do.. Your behavior description matches majority of people and they haven't seen a mental ward from the inside
VeritaasLondon, Greater London, England UK5,839 posts
patmac: Always make your own mind up it may take a while but the truth comes out and then you know.....Some folk may give you the wrong information for various reasons....But if you decide to drop them on the information you have been given you may live to regret it.....Howver the reverse also applys...Only your own judgement will help and if you get it wrong you only have to worry about your choice....JMO
Exactly, there are only two people in the equation, and not a myriad of people, saying all kinds of everything. Because this can lead to false conclusions, accusations, that are not based on your own observations and feelings, in matters of trying to figure it all out.
Veritaas: Given that is the case as you say about "confiding", the OP then should really then have the capability and sensitivity to broach this matter himself.
I believe he does, but he also makes very good post here and get everybody thinking.
AngelinBali: she hasn't confide anything in him and he's asking what to do.. Your behavior description matches majority of people and they haven't seen a mental ward from the inside
He hasn't yet, supposedly, but in the end you will see that he has already make up his mind what he wants to do. People don't have to be in a psychiatric ward to behave excessively. Look! there are people walking around like that all the time.
VeritaasLondon, Greater London, England UK5,839 posts
mychelle: I believe he does, but he also makes very good post here and get everybody thinking.
The OP ultimately knows what he has to do, regardless whether or not he has everyone thinking about what would one do in these circumstances. Advice from others, based on personal experience in such matters will always hold more weight. But then this would really be determined by the "experiences" of both the OP and the another being very very similar, ie, in terms of dealing with mental instability, that might exist in a person they are seeing.
mychelle: He hasn't yet, supposedly, but in the end you will see that he has already make up his mind what he wants to do. People don't have to be in a psychiatric ward to behave excessively. Look! there are people walking around like that all the time.
that's what I meant. Trust me the once free walking around scare me more than the once I've meet in the mental wards
VeritaasLondon, Greater London, England UK5,839 posts
AngelinBali: that's what I meant. Trust me the once free walking around scare me more than the once I've meet in the mental wards
And many that are not receiving any form of psychiatric care is sometimes due to medical boards deciding at that moment in time their illness is not deemed serious enough to be treated.
This being the case, the lack of treatment a person receives, due to these decisions can only exacerbate their illness over time. And in some cases by then, it is too late.
venusenvy: Ummm you might consider going back and reading the original post as this has no bearing on the subject in discussion
I am not going back to read it, because time and time again regardles of which post, he has says people open up to him easily, may not be the exact words, but that's it. Why not ask him if you don't believe me. While I am at it, he is a pretty good writer, can't wait wait for the best seller to come out!
Veritaas: And many that are not receiving any form of psychiatric care is sometimes due to medical boards deciding at that moment in time their illness is not deemed serious enough to be treated.
This being the case, the lack of treatment a person receives, due to these decisions can only exacerbate their illness over time. And in some cases by then, it is too late.
I disagree. No psychiatrist would let anybody walk out of their praxis without labeling and medicating them.
VeritaasLondon, Greater London, England UK5,839 posts
AngelinBali: I disagree. No psychiatrist would let anybody walk out of their praxis without labeling and medicating them.
Unfortunately, they do. Time and time again it has happened in the UK where people with certain levels of mental illness do not get the care they are supposed, for reasons I have previously stated. Also due to lack of funding, space in some local authorities too.
As to whether this happens in other countries, I could only be guessing but I think I would not be far from the truth.
Veritaas: Unfortunately, they do. Time and time again it has happened in the UK where people with certain levels of mental illness do not get the care they are supposed, for reasons I have previously stated. Also due to lack of funding, space in some local authorities too.
As to whether this happens in other countries, I could only be guessing but I think I would not be far from the truth.
I get you now, didn't consider the financial issues most countries have when it comes to medical care. You're making now perfectly sense, thanks.
Veritaas: Unfortunately, they do. Time and time again it has happened in the UK where people with certain levels of mental illness do not get the care they are supposed, for reasons I have previously stated. Also due to lack of funding, space in some local authorities too.
As to whether this happens in other countries, I could only be guessing but I think I would not be far from the truth.
I have seen numerous EX Servicemen who have PTSD in varying degrees and they are struggling to get the help they need.....Hence the high rate of homeless alcaholics who are Ex Forces.......
VeritaasLondon, Greater London, England UK5,839 posts
patmac: I have seen numerous EX Servicemen who have PTSD in varying degrees and they are struggling to get the help they need.....Hence the high rate of homeless alcaholics who are Ex Forces.......
Agree, was thinking that myself too, sad, considering what they put their lives on the line for.
VeritaasLondon, Greater London, England UK5,839 posts
AngelinBali: I get you now, didn't consider the financial issues most countries have when it comes to medical care. You're making now perfectly sense, thanks.
Quite shocking really the amount of people who suffer from mental illnesses, especially in poverty stricken countries. And in some they are just disgarded and left by the wayside.
Veritaas: Agree, was thinking that myself too, sad, considering what they put their lives on the line for.
For sure they should also have psychological counseling/training/help available to them. You would think its the least our Govs. could do eh. Talk about using peeps and then throwing them away.
VeritaasLondon, Greater London, England UK5,839 posts
venusenvy: For sure they should also have psychological counseling/training/help available to them. You would think its the least our Govs. could do eh. Talk about using peeps and then throwing them away.
Makes you wonder if they actually value human life at times.
I would be sussing out the persons friends and family,over a bit of time and make my own mind up , as somone always slips with something,it has worked for me before, there are way, you just have to listen,
kcuc0574Ho Chi Minh, Southeast Vietnam Vietnam2,003 posts
mjames: my friends don't choose my lover.
I think whats a huge turn off is seeing women put in their profile, "My friends are my life; if you dont like them then shove off" or something like that.
Women have strange love hate relationships with their friends; very intense either way; much fighting at times, jealousy then they can't live without eachother.
None of my friends or anyone elses friends are going to choose who I date.
Love also takes time; you can't just jump into something; you have to get to know if someone is good or not.
There is one saying that " Love is blind ", although your close friends said your lover is the bad guy, but u cant not escape from him, u will find many "logic" reasons to explain for many his faults, then until to specific time, when you suddently wake up from your desperate love, you will see your close friend's words are not wrong. How about the man for "the bold words".
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