Will The United States be at war with Iran within the next few years? (84)

Sep 10, 2010 2:16 AM CST Will The United States be at war with Iran within the next few years?
jvaski: Way more likely with a Rebublican Gov Admin.......and it would instantly become a "War" .....
Unfortunately even the Obama administration with a Rebub Senate and Congress might be enough to initiate it...
WWI and WWII comes to mind!
Republican Wars?laugh
Sep 10, 2010 2:20 AM CST Will The United States be at war with Iran within the next few years?
Albertaghost
AlbertaghostAlbertaghostCultural Wasteland, Alberta Canada76 Threads 5 Polls 5,914 Posts
nitro2345: u meant the very first page of this thread sir? well looking very quicly I just saw a well known actions goverment takes to pressure otehr countries, and alternatives to war, and why you think the war won't happen, nothing new.


Well then, if you need something more offical than my explanation, here is UNSC 1441 which contains the same info except a bit more detailed, the prior resolutions are necessary to reference to have a full unchild like view of it all;



"SECURITY COUNCIL HOLDS IRAQ IN ‘MATERIAL BREACH’ OF DISARMAMENT OBLIGATIONS,

OFFERS FINAL CHANCE TO COMPLY, UNANIMOUSLY ADOPTING RESOLUTION 1441 (2002)


“The Security Council,

“Recalling all its previous relevant resolutions, in particular its resolutions 661 (1990) of 6 August 1990, 678 (1990) of 29 November 1990, 686 (1991) of 2 March 1991, 687 (1991) of 3 April 1991, 688 (1991) of 5 April 1991, 707 (1991) of 15 August 1991, 715 (1991) of 11 October 1991, 986 (1995) of

14 April 1995, and 1284 (1999) of 17 December 1999, and all the relevant statements of its President,

“Recalling also its resolution 1382 (2001) of 29 November 2001 and its intention to implement it fully,

“Recognizing the threat Iraq's non-compliance with Council resolutions and proliferation of weapons of mass destruction and long-range missiles poses to international peace and security,

“Recalling that its resolution 678 (1990) authorized Member States to use all necessary means to uphold and implement its resolution 660 (1990) of 2 August 1990 and all relevant resolutions subsequent to resolution 660 (1990) and to restore international peace and security in the area,

“Further recalling that its resolution 687 (1991) imposed obligations on Iraq as a necessary step for achievement of its stated objective of restoring international peace and security in the area,

“Deploring the fact that Iraq has not provided an accurate, full, final, and complete disclosure, as required by resolution 687 (1991), of all aspects of its programmes to develop weapons of mass destruction and ballistic missiles with a range greater than one hundred and fifty kilometres, and of all holdings of such weapons, their components and production facilities and locations, as well as all other nuclear programmes, including any which it claims are for purposes not related to nuclear-weapons-usable material,

“Deploring further that Iraq repeatedly obstructed immediate, unconditional, and unrestricted access to sites designated by the United Nations Special Commission (UNSCOM) and the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), failed to cooperate fully and unconditionally with UNSCOM and IAEA weapons inspectors, as required by resolution 687 (1991), and ultimately ceased all cooperation with UNSCOM and the IAEA in 1998,

........ continued;
Sep 10, 2010 2:22 AM CST Will The United States be at war with Iran within the next few years?
Albertaghost
AlbertaghostAlbertaghostCultural Wasteland, Alberta Canada76 Threads 5 Polls 5,914 Posts
“Deploring the absence, since December 1998, in Iraq of international monitoring, inspection, and verification, as required by relevant resolutions, of weapons of mass destruction and ballistic missiles, in spite of the Council's repeated demands that Iraq provide immediate, unconditional, and unrestricted access to the United Nations Monitoring,

“Deploring also that the Government of Iraq has failed to comply with its commitments pursuant to resolution 687 (1991) with regard to terrorism, pursuant to resolution 688 (1991) to end repression of its civilian population and to provide access by international humanitarian organizations to all those in need of assistance in Iraq, and pursuant to resolutions 686 (1991), 687 (1991), and 1284 (1999) to return or cooperate in accounting for Kuwaiti and third country nationals wrongfully detained by Iraq, or to return Kuwaiti property wrongfully seized by Iraq,

“Recalling that in its resolution 687 (1991) the Council declared that a ceasefire would be based on acceptance by Iraq of the provisions of that resolution, including the obligations on Iraq contained therein,

“Determined to ensure full and immediate compliance by Iraq without conditions or restrictions with its obligations under resolution 687 (1991) and other relevant resolutions and recalling that the resolutions of the Council constitute the governing standard of Iraqi compliance,

“Noting the letter dated 16 September 2002 from the Minister for Foreign Affairs of Iraq addressed to the Secretary-General is a necessary first step toward rectifying Iraq’s continued failure to comply with relevant Council resolutions,


“1.Decides that Iraq has been and remains in material breach of its obligations under relevant resolutions, including resolution 687 (1991), in particular through Iraq's failure to cooperate with United Nations inspectors and the IAEA, and to complete the actions required under paragraphs 8 to 13 of resolution 687 (1991);

“2.Decides, while acknowledging paragraph 1 above, to afford Iraq, by this resolution, a final opportunity to comply with its disarmament obligations under relevant resolutions of the Council; and accordingly decides to set up an enhanced inspection regime with the aim of bringing to full and verified completion the disarmament process established by resolution 687 (1991) and subsequent resolutions of the Council;

“3.Decides that, in order to begin to comply with its disarmament obligations, in addition to submitting the required biannual declarations, the Government of Iraq shall provide to UNMOVIC, the IAEA, and the Council, not later than 30 days from the date of this resolution, a currently accurate, full, and complete declaration of all aspects of its programmes to develop chemical, biological, and nuclear weapons, ballistic missiles, and other delivery systems such as unmanned aerial vehicles and dispersal systems designed for use on aircraft, including any holdings and precise locations of such weapons, components, sub-components, stocks of agents, and related material and equipment, the locations and work of its research, development and production facilities, as well as all other chemical, biological, and nuclear programmes, including any which it claims are for purposes not related to weapon production or material;

“4.Decides that false statements or omissions in the declarations submitted by Iraq pursuant to this resolution and failure by Iraq at any time to comply with, and cooperate fully in the implementation of, this resolution shall constitute a further material breach of Iraq's obligations and will be reported to the Council for assessment in accordance with paragraphs 11 and 12 below;

"


That is only the pertinent information and not even the background resolutions so, I suppose now you can see why I reduced it to the short paragraph I did.
Sep 10, 2010 2:22 AM CST Will The United States be at war with Iran within the next few years?
Albertaghost
AlbertaghostAlbertaghostCultural Wasteland, Alberta Canada76 Threads 5 Polls 5,914 Posts
nitro2345: About the UN resolutions or objectives or whatever (Suddendly you rely on the UN to defend the US atrocities when the US didn't care what the UN said before the war, ironic..)


Suddenly? Over a decade you consider suddenly?

nitro2345: sure those are the "official" goals/objectives. The thing here is that I wanted to point out the real reasons behind it... do you really think u were going to see in a UN inform " and to take iraq oil" or " to establish a puppet state" or " to fulfill Bush's personal vengance"? so to me that meant nothing, sorry sir.


No and that is probably why none of that occurred.
Sep 10, 2010 2:23 AM CST Will The United States be at war with Iran within the next few years?
nitro2345: if you think they have the right to, or do you just think that freak would be the only one affected not considering all the casualties of such action and ignoring the suffering to the irani people..then u are the real a**hole
my mydoh
You really have a way with words!rolling on the floor laughing
Sep 10, 2010 2:26 AM CST Will The United States be at war with Iran within the next few years?
Albertaghost
AlbertaghostAlbertaghostCultural Wasteland, Alberta Canada76 Threads 5 Polls 5,914 Posts
nitro2345: sincerely I hope not, Iran has the same right the other nuclear countries have to own nuclear facilities/weapons, so I don't want those invadors, rapers and killers (not all fall in these 2 last cathegories, just in the first) in Iran as they did in Iraq based on a total hoax.


Iran signed the Non Proliferation Treaty. This means that by not allowing their facilities to be inspected they are out of line and doing all work illegally. As well, they are not permitted to own, develop or possess nuclear weapons.
Sep 12, 2010 5:47 PM CST Will The United States be at war with Iran within the next few years?
ebibakhshi
ebibakhshiebibakhshiOslo - Norway / Mashhad, Iran3 Threads 15 Posts
IRAN is not like iraq or other reginol countries Iran is a multi racial socity but all the Iranian people will be well united against any invasion , any war against Iran would be bloody and noxious for both sides, Iran is not just a territory Iran is an opinion, an ideal which most of the moslem people in the world,would support Iran at any possible war, there is no courage in government of united state to attack to my country because all Amercan soldiers are so armed and armored but they are squeamish and costly. on the other hand
Iran and U.s.a. have lot of common profits in Middele East ,(economic and security ) Iran like a bridle to U.s. to ride on the back of Arab dictators, i 'd like to assure you a strong and stable Iran will be favorite for western governments to always scare arab dictators from shieas' influence and take advantages them, Iran stands as a shield to prevent from drugs and sunni extremists' entrance to europe.......................
Sep 12, 2010 5:54 PM CST Will The United States be at war with Iran within the next few years?
LucieLynn
LucieLynnLucieLynnSaint Joseph, Missouri USA78 Posts
Americans are concerned about Israel. We don't like it when our allies receive threats. If someone attacks Israel....then that someone needs to be prepared for the end of civilization as they know it. We come will get them - Make no mistake about it.
Sep 12, 2010 6:09 PM CST Will The United States be at war with Iran within the next few years?
SilverBirch
SilverBirchSilverBirchSomewhere, Virginia USA17 Threads 4 Polls 3,158 Posts
LucieLynn: Americans are concerned about Israel. We don't like it when our allies receive threats. If someone attacks Israel....then that someone needs to be prepared for the end of civilization as they know it. We come will get them - Make no mistake about it.
Sorry my little star of david flower but you speak much larger than reality will support.confused
Sep 12, 2010 6:11 PM CST Will The United States be at war with Iran within the next few years?
DeusExMachina
DeusExMachinaDeusExMachinahaaltert, Oost Vlaanderen Belgium55 Threads 1 Polls 2,705 Posts
Those who call for war.You make me sick.I know a lot of good people in Iran.Impotent old men calling for war in the name of what?Freedom????
Sep 12, 2010 6:22 PM CST Will The United States be at war with Iran within the next few years?
LucieLynn
LucieLynnLucieLynnSaint Joseph, Missouri USA78 Posts
"Sorry my little star of david flower but you speak much larger than reality will support."

Maybe you don't feel I am speaking the truth, but I would say that 250 million Christian Americans and our disagrees with you. Remember - It's GOD that gives us our rights in this country - we don't get our rights from the constitution. It's "Inalienable rights endowed us by our Creator"...not creators plural. So, I'd imagine that over 250 million Christians in this country would differ with you suggesting America would not help Israel if needed. You are naive, Mister.
Sep 12, 2010 6:25 PM CST Will The United States be at war with Iran within the next few years?
DeusExMachina
DeusExMachinaDeusExMachinahaaltert, Oost Vlaanderen Belgium55 Threads 1 Polls 2,705 Posts
LucieLynn: "Sorry my little star of david flower but you speak much larger than reality will support."

Maybe you don't feel I am speaking the truth, but I would say that 250 million Christian Americans and our disagrees with you. Remember - It's GOD that gives us our rights in this country - we don't get our rights from the constitution. It's "Inalienable rights endowed us by our Creator"...not creators plural. So, I'd imagine that over 250 million Christians in this country would differ with you suggesting America would not help Israel if needed. You are naive, Mister.
Sep 12, 2010 6:27 PM CST Will The United States be at war with Iran within the next few years?
DeusExMachina
DeusExMachinaDeusExMachinahaaltert, Oost Vlaanderen Belgium55 Threads 1 Polls 2,705 Posts
It's GOD that gives us our rights in this country????????????????
Christian????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

Do you call yourself A CHRISTIAN?????????????????????????????????
Sep 12, 2010 6:30 PM CST Will The United States be at war with Iran within the next few years?
SilverBirch
SilverBirchSilverBirchSomewhere, Virginia USA17 Threads 4 Polls 3,158 Posts
LucieLynn: "Sorry my little star of david flower but you speak much larger than reality will support."

Maybe you don't feel I am speaking the truth, but I would say that 250 million Christian Americans and our disagrees with you. Remember - It's GOD that gives us our rights in this country - we don't get our rights from the constitution. It's "Inalienable rights endowed us by our Creator"...not creators plural. So, I'd imagine that over 250 million Christians in this country would differ with you suggesting America would not help Israel if needed. You are naive, Mister.
I don't want to burst your bubble on this one but very few Americans have fallen for Israels cruel ruse my dear. Most are aware of Israel/Mossads efforts to bribe their way into important American political posts in an effort to skew American political "stance". Do your homework and come back when you have a better understanding of what you are talking about.
Sep 12, 2010 6:33 PM CST Will The United States be at war with Iran within the next few years?
DeusExMachina
DeusExMachinaDeusExMachinahaaltert, Oost Vlaanderen Belgium55 Threads 1 Polls 2,705 Posts
LucieLynn: "Sorry my little star of david flower but you speak much larger than reality will support."

Maybe you don't feel I am speaking the truth, but I would say that 250 million Christian Americans and our disagrees with you. Remember - It's GOD that gives us our rights in this country - we don't get our rights from the constitution. It's "Inalienable rights endowed us by our Creator"...not creators plural. So, I'd imagine that over 250 million Christians in this country would differ with you suggesting America would not help Israel if needed. You are naive, Mister.


You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother's eye"
(Matthew 7.1-5 ESV

You have heard that it was said, 'You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy.' But I say to you, Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you"
(Matthew 5.43-45 ESV)
Sep 12, 2010 6:39 PM CST Will The United States be at war with Iran within the next few years?
LucieLynn
LucieLynnLucieLynnSaint Joseph, Missouri USA78 Posts
There will always be a few bigots out there who will continue to hate Israel. I do not understand why they do it. Israel is trying to protect her people. PLAIN AND SIMPLE> They have been persecuted for thousands of years. I'm sick of it. All you people out there that think Israel should away. I'm sick of you. You make me sick to my stomach. Those people are loving good people who have been attacked for no reason. They have a beautiful culture. They focus on family, education, the improvement of life for everyone, healthcare, computer technology, environmental protection techniques, they are worship their God in peace. They love humanity. They are probably one of the best people on this Earth and I think it is sick to be jealous of them. They are asking for a tiny piece of land. TINY. Give it to them. Leave them alone. Stop hurting them. Get an f-----g CLUE> and then have a nice day.
Sep 12, 2010 6:40 PM CST Will The United States be at war with Iran within the next few years?
DeusExMachina
DeusExMachinaDeusExMachinahaaltert, Oost Vlaanderen Belgium55 Threads 1 Polls 2,705 Posts
LucieLynn: There will always be a few bigots out there who will continue to hate Israel. I do not understand why they do it. Israel is trying to protect her people. PLAIN AND SIMPLE> They have been persecuted for thousands of years. I'm sick of it. All you people out there that think Israel should away. I'm sick of you. You make me sick to my stomach. Those people are loving good people who have been attacked for no reason. They have a beautiful culture. They focus on family, education, the improvement of life for everyone, healthcare, computer technology, environmental protection techniques, they are worship their God in peace. They love humanity. They are probably one of the best people on this Earth and I think it is sick to be jealous of them. They are asking for a tiny piece of land. TINY. Give it to them. Leave them alone. Stop hurting them. Get an f-----g CLUE> and then have a nice day.
Sep 12, 2010 6:42 PM CST Will The United States be at war with Iran within the next few years?
DeusExMachina
DeusExMachinaDeusExMachinahaaltert, Oost Vlaanderen Belgium55 Threads 1 Polls 2,705 Posts
I suppose Iranians love their children too???
Sep 12, 2010 6:48 PM CST Will The United States be at war with Iran within the next few years?
LucieLynn
LucieLynnLucieLynnSaint Joseph, Missouri USA78 Posts
"I suppose Iranians love their children too???{

No culture or countries children have been as persecuted as Israel. Israel are the ONLY people on this planet today that have been continuously NON STOP hunted and tormented for many thousands of years....I'm talking three...four....thousand years? Give it up. It's over. The hate is stupid. I'm concerned about Israel. Right now? They are the people who deserve some peace.
Sep 12, 2010 6:48 PM CST Will The United States be at war with Iran within the next few years?
DeusExMachina
DeusExMachinaDeusExMachinahaaltert, Oost Vlaanderen Belgium55 Threads 1 Polls 2,705 Posts
LucieLynn: "I suppose Iranians love their children too???{

No culture or countries children have been as persecuted as Israel. Israel are the ONLY people on this planet today that have been continuously NON STOP hunted and tormented for many thousands of years....I'm talking three...four....thousand years? Give it up. It's over. The hate is stupid. I'm concerned about Israel. Right now? They are the people who deserve some peace.


Of the good in you I can speak, but not of the evil.
For what is evil but good tortured by its own hunger and thirst?

Kahlil Gibran
Sep 12, 2010 6:50 PM CST Will The United States be at war with Iran within the next few years?
SilverBirch
SilverBirchSilverBirchSomewhere, Virginia USA17 Threads 4 Polls 3,158 Posts
And if only the murderous thugs from the IDF to Netanyahu would understand that.confused
Sep 12, 2010 6:51 PM CST Will The United States be at war with Iran within the next few years?
Albertaghost
AlbertaghostAlbertaghostCultural Wasteland, Alberta Canada76 Threads 5 Polls 5,914 Posts
SilverBirch: Do your homework and come back when you have a better understanding of what you are talking about.


Physician heal thyself!!!rolling on the floor laughing

Do your homework!rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing Coming from you it's like a crackhead preaching how to kick a cigarette habit.
Sep 12, 2010 6:56 PM CST Will The United States be at war with Iran within the next few years?
Albertaghost
AlbertaghostAlbertaghostCultural Wasteland, Alberta Canada76 Threads 5 Polls 5,914 Posts
SilverBirch: And if only the murderous thugs from the IDF to Netanyahu would understand that.



really now?????rolling on the floor laughing

Is that why Hamas is about to declare war on the PA when they actually are thinking about making peace with Israel?

Do your homework!!!!rolling on the floor laughing
Sep 12, 2010 6:58 PM CST Will The United States be at war with Iran within the next few years?
SilverBirch
SilverBirchSilverBirchSomewhere, Virginia USA17 Threads 4 Polls 3,158 Posts
Albertoe, surly you jest,.
Sep 12, 2010 7:01 PM CST Will The United States be at war with Iran within the next few years?
SilverBirch
SilverBirchSilverBirchSomewhere, Virginia USA17 Threads 4 Polls 3,158 Posts
Yeah and Barbara Strisand doesn't sound like a cats tail getting slammed in the door.
Sep 12, 2010 7:02 PM CST Will The United States be at war with Iran within the next few years?
Albertaghost
AlbertaghostAlbertaghostCultural Wasteland, Alberta Canada76 Threads 5 Polls 5,914 Posts
SilverBirch: Yeah and Barbara Strisand doesn't sound like a cats tail getting slammed in the door.


Is this an example of your 'homework?'

FAIL!!!!
Sep 12, 2010 7:05 PM CST Will The United States be at war with Iran within the next few years?
TrueBlue1986
TrueBlue1986TrueBlue1986Sale, South Manchester, Cheshire, England UK1,322 Posts
watchmantom: I would like to know what people are thinking regarding this important subject.


The greatest factor would be the Iranian relationship with Russia and China. As it stands now there won't be a war.
Sep 12, 2010 7:07 PM CST Will The United States be at war with Iran within the next few years?
SilverBirch
SilverBirchSilverBirchSomewhere, Virginia USA17 Threads 4 Polls 3,158 Posts
TrueBlue1986: The greatest factor would be the Iranian relationship with Russia and China. As it stands now there won't be a war.
thumbs up handshake
Sep 12, 2010 7:14 PM CST Will The United States be at war with Iran within the next few years?
nitro2345
nitro2345nitro2345CIUDAD JUAREZ, Chihuahua Mexico81 Posts
Albertaghost: Iran signed the Non Proliferation Treaty. This means that by not allowing their facilities to be inspected they are out of line and doing all work illegally. As well, they are not permitted to own, develop or possess nuclear weapons.
lol so??? u are looking like the fool u said I was before, your "they are not permitted to own, develop or possess nuclear weapons" just either gives me the reason or a point to me or... is a very bad answer to my comment, since that is precisely the point of the original comment u replied to.
the thing is that is hypocritical of some nuclear states to forbid other countries with all their legimate right to own nuclear facilities or weapons given that those states have arsenals of them, I know they signed a treatie but stills hipocritical and besides those nuclear states (specially the US) don't care for treaties or obey them when they are applied to them.
Sep 12, 2010 7:19 PM CST Will The United States be at war with Iran within the next few years?
Albertaghost
AlbertaghostAlbertaghostCultural Wasteland, Alberta Canada76 Threads 5 Polls 5,914 Posts
TrueBlue1986: The greatest factor would be the Iranian relationship with Russia and China. As it stands now there won't be a war.


The greatest factor in there not being a war is that Iran has not attacked anybody and therefore, has not provided a reason for action to be taken. If and when that time comes, any relationship with Russia or China won't play a significant role in action being taken but rather, what action.

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