Well i know Reina won the golden glove 3 times in a row, in the last six season Reina has won it 3 timeS Cech 2 times and Van Der Sar has won it once, so if you to go by them stats its got to be Reina
Primula: I think hart is better, younger and more agile, Given is past his best
given isnt at his best but a in form given shouldnt be dropped for anyone but as much as it breaks my heart i think its all down hill for given feom now on
galwaydave: agreed, someone like jasskelianen would be great for arsenal
another jaaskaleinen fan, i thought i was the only one, see my earlier post from today. I think arsenal or any other big team would have to fork out the big money for him tho, he is a Bolton faithful, been with them practically his entire career.
hem23: another jaaskaleinen fan, i thought i was the only one, see my earlier post from today. I think arsenal or any other big team would have to fork out the big money for him tho, he is a Bolton faithful, been with them practically his entire career.
its so obvious the guy is world class why there is so many bad keepers at big clubs ill never understand.. do you remember matt poom at derby the guy was brilliant no big club ever came
galwaydave: its so obvious the guy is world class why there is so many bad keepers at big clubs ill never understand.. do you remember matt poom at derby the guy was brilliant no big club ever came
Actually Poom was signed by Arsenal in August 2005 as temporary cover for Jens Lehmann and Manuel Almunia but only played one game for them. However, he became the first Estonian to receive a Champions League runners-up medal after Arsenal lost to Barcelona. Poom did not play nor did he make the substitutes' bench for the final, but was a member of Arsenal's 25-man European squad, each of whom won a silver medal. He was sold to Watford in 2007 after becoming surplus to requirements after Arsenal signed Fabianski.
Primula: Biased poll everybody votes for Given just because hes Irish
I disagree. I think it has nothing to do with him being Irish. Given's record speaks for itself. Well some people might be inclined to vote for him because he is irish but he is very consistent. He was the best goalkeeper in the premiership based on stats for years when Newcastle were in the premiership and you rarely see him make mistakes. Joe Hart is a great keeper too but for me, Given just shades it because he has bags of experience.
In my opinion, the only reason Given is not still No.1 at City is because of remarks he made in a newspaper a few days before the start of the premiership season. He said he expects to be the No. 1 keeper even now that Hart was back at the club or he would have to consider his future. After that, i think Mancini had no choice but to pick Hart and assert his authority because no manager is going to want to be told who to pick. I think Mancini felt Given was getting a bit too cocky and taking his place for granted so Mancini decided to put him in his place. The only way i can see Given getting his place back at City now is if Hart gets injured for a while and Given plays out of his skin. Chances are, Given will probably change clubs in January though.
DUBLINGUY1973: I disagree. I think it has nothing to do with him being Irish. Given's record speaks for itself. Well some people might be inclined to vote for him because he is irish but he is very consistent. He was the best goalkeeper in the premiership based on stats for years when Newcastle were in the premiership and you rarely see him make mistakes. Joe Hart is a great keeper too but for me, Given just shades it because he has bags of experience.
In my opinion, the only reason Given is not still No.1 at City is because of remarks he made in a newspaper a few days before the start of the premiership season. He said he expects to be the No. 1 keeper even now that Hart was back at the club or he would have to consider his future. After that, i think Mancini had no choice but to pick Hart and assert his authority because no manager is going to want to be told who to pick. I think Mancini felt Given was getting a bit too cocky and taking his place for granted so Mancini decided to put him in his place. The only way i can see Given getting his place back at City now is if Hart gets injured for a while and Given plays out of his skin. Chances are, Given will probably change clubs in January though.
DUBLINGUY1973: True but you could say that about a lot of keepers in England including Joe Hart.
I wouldn't be so quick to write off Van Der Sar either by the way. He's another one who rarely makes mistakes.
Yes but Given needs to move to a top club to make his legacy complete (imo)
Van der Sar's a top keeper, but it's just getting to the stage where his age is catching up on him. i think now would be a good time to replace him, maybe let him go home see out his career with PSV or something like that
jbill: Yes but Given needs to move to a top club to make his legacy complete (imo)
Van der Sar's a top keeper, but it's just getting to the stage where his age is catching up on him. i think now would be a good time to replace him, maybe let him go home see out his career with PSV or something like that
The city fans wouldn't be too happy with you saying City isn't a big club Seriously though, i agree. He needs to be playing first team football at a big club at this stage of his career.
You're probably right about Van Der Sar too. What i meant was when Van Der Sar plays for United, i don't think he shows many signs of age. I reckon he will retire after he leaves United though. It would be a major coup for United if they could persuade City to sell Given to them though. Plus the beauty of it is Given probably has about another five years left in him if he can keep himself fit. I suspect City would prefer it if Given went abroad though.
blipper2000: hes a brilliant international keeper i actually dont think hes ever made a mistake for ireland
well actually against Andorra last month he did....but in saying that, he's made less mistakes than any of the other goalies at international level or indeed club level - The 1st one to give me a goalie who didn't make a mistake get's a night free from me!!!
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