Taking a trip, security checks have changed, you have to choose. ( Archived) (24)

Nov 24, 2010 10:33 PM CSTTaking a trip, security checks have changed, you have to choose.
scoutmaster
scoutmasterscoutmasterGranite falls, Washington, USA29 Threads 6 Polls 1,100 Posts

Taking a trip, security checks have changed, you have to choose.(Vote Below)

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A lightely radioactive xray, quite reveling
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A patdown, Quite personal
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31%
Total Votes
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As a single dad wanting to protect my 14 year old daughter, wich do I choose. the xray showes her to her skin and the Airport security personall sees my little girl in all her detail as well as well as exposing her to light radiation,, Very light mind you. Or a pat down and some strange lady put her hand all over my preshious little girl.

What would you choose.
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Nov 24, 2010 10:40 PM CST Taking a trip, security checks have changed, you have to choose.
langleygirl
langleygirllangleygirlWestlock, Alberta Canada70 Threads 8,202 Posts
I'd ask her what she felt comfortable doing. I'd think at that age she'd probably choose the xray (or at least I would).
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Nov 24, 2010 10:41 PM CST Taking a trip, security checks have changed, you have to choose.
JSuburbia
JSuburbiaJSuburbiaOrbisonia, Pennsylvania USA17 Threads 2,518 Posts
scoutmaster: As a single dad wanting to protect my 14 year old daughter, wich do I choose. the xray showes her to her skin and the Airport security personall sees my little girl in all her detail as well as well as exposing her to light radiation,, Very light mind you. Or a pat down and some strange lady put her hand all over my preshious little girl.

What would you choose.



My vote would be the pat down, simply because it would delay things and give the TSA a harder tiime...
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Nov 24, 2010 10:43 PM CST Taking a trip, security checks have changed, you have to choose.
katt1017
katt1017katt1017Southern, New Hampshire USA67 Threads 10 Polls 1,384 Posts
scoutmaster: As a single dad wanting to protect my 14 year old daughter, wich do I choose. the xray showes her to her skin and the Airport security personall sees my little girl in all her detail as well as well as exposing her to light radiation,, Very light mind you. Or a pat down and some strange lady put her hand all over my preshious little girl.

What would you choose.


I'd say let her decide. If she's anything like most 14 year old girls she wants some independence even if she still wants to know dad is there when she needs him.
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Nov 24, 2010 10:43 PM CST Taking a trip, security checks have changed, you have to choose.
langleygirl
langleygirllangleygirlWestlock, Alberta Canada70 Threads 8,202 Posts
JSuburbia: My vote would be the pat down, simply because it would delay things and give the TSA a harder tiime...
Are you sure your not just looking for a female agent to check you out? You could become a travel bug just for the thrills. laugh
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Nov 24, 2010 10:43 PM CST Taking a trip, security checks have changed, you have to choose.
scoutmaster
scoutmasterscoutmasterGranite falls, Washington USA29 Threads 6 Polls 1,100 Posts
JSuburbia: My vote would be the pat down, simply because it would delay things and give the TSA a harder tiime...


the question is not abvout making a political statement it is about what is best for my daughter. That is all I care about.
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Nov 24, 2010 10:44 PM CST Taking a trip, security checks have changed, you have to choose.
JSuburbia
JSuburbiaJSuburbiaOrbisonia, Pennsylvania USA17 Threads 2,518 Posts
langleygirl: Are you sure your not just looking for a female agent to check you out? You could become a travel bug just for the thrills.



I think if it was that easy, I'd be getting those refundable tickets, that way I could go through security, leave, get my ticket refunded, buy another ticket, go back through security (wash rinse & repeat)grin rolling on the floor laughing
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Nov 24, 2010 10:47 PM CST Taking a trip, security checks have changed, you have to choose.
FreddyFudpucker
FreddyFudpuckerFreddyFudpuckerObamaville, Indiana USA10,179 Posts
Go greyhound.
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Nov 25, 2010 12:04 AM CST Taking a trip, security checks have changed, you have to choose.
Witchaywoman
WitchaywomanWitchaywomanCarpentersville, Illinois USA97 Threads 13 Polls 4,344 Posts
scoutmaster: As a single dad wanting to protect my 14 year old daughter, wich do I choose. the xray showes her to her skin and the Airport security personall sees my little girl in all her detail as well as well as exposing her to light radiation,, Very light mind you. Or a pat down and some strange lady put her hand all over my preshious little girl.

What would you choose.


My X Ray technician will get an eyefull. BTW, What's to stop an intrepid terrorist from A)getting a friend to work for the airport and plant weapons on the plane and B)just getting weapons at their destination? dunno confused
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Nov 25, 2010 12:24 AM CST Taking a trip, security checks have changed, you have to choose.
SoldierByte
SoldierByteSoldierByteGrove, Oklahoma USA1,466 Posts
Cripes Scout..handshake
I don't know what to say...
but I do know that with three daughters..
aint NO way in hell I'd of let some creepy
ten dollar rent a cop come sniffing around my
girls just to get on a plane...very mad
But since one cannot say no.. I have no idea
how to explain to my girls, or ME feeling
"O-K" about it..dunno
I'm glad they are all grown ...
I can feel for those that must decide..thumbs up

nerd ---SoldierByte---:t
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Nov 25, 2010 12:51 AM CST Taking a trip, security checks have changed, you have to choose.
demonfairy
demonfairydemonfairyNewton, North Carolina USA76 Threads 2 Polls 2,278 Posts
Witchaywoman: My X Ray technician will get an eyefull. BTW, What's to stop an intrepid terrorist from A)getting a friend to work for the airport and plant weapons on the plane and B)just getting weapons at their destination?
Screeners have to go threw a check point and be screened like everyone else before they can go to work,all airport employees do,even pilots that fly your plane.Luggage is also checked for explosive material before it is loaded.



For the op:I would ask your daughter which one she preferred.The x-ray machine would be best i think for any child,but its up to the person.As far as harmful rays,it is safe.
A screener has to change jobs every 30 mins.,so one never knows which post they will be own at any point in time.Also a screener has to wear a badge that will turn red if they have been on the x-ray machine to long.(Most were only allowed to be on there 5 times in one day,when i was employed there)
Wishing your daughter a safe and happy trip..DFhug wave
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Nov 25, 2010 12:58 AM CST Taking a trip, security checks have changed, you have to choose.
moonmana1
moonmana1moonmana1Wyoming, Minnesota USA3 Threads 364 Posts
scoutmaster: As a single dad wanting to protect my 14 year old daughter, wich do I choose. the xray showes her to her skin and the Airport security personall sees my little girl in all her detail as well as well as exposing her to light radiation,, Very light mind you. Or a pat down and some strange lady put her hand all over my preshious little girl.

What would you choose.


Would not let anyone touch my children.. Only solutions I've heard is to start

:profiling.. like Israel.and that means not ethnicity but actions, where have you been, destinatons, looking guilty.

:And the use of trained dogs.. Would be a hell of allot better than calling a temp agency for an $8.00 per hour renta cop.

Doesn't do much for the moment though, does it.dunno
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Nov 25, 2010 7:05 AM CST Taking a trip, security checks have changed, you have to choose.
scoutmaster
scoutmasterscoutmasterGranite falls, Washington USA29 Threads 6 Polls 1,100 Posts
moonmana1: Would not let anyone touch my children.. Only solutions I've heard is to start

:profiling.. like Israel.and that means not ethnicity but actions, where have you been, destinatons, looking guilty.

:And the use of trained dogs.. Would be a hell of allot better than calling a temp agency for an $8.00 per hour renta cop.

Doesn't do much for the moment though, does it.


I tend to agree with most of you that the idea of someone puting there hands all over my little girl is unnearving and I am leaning too the exray but I thought Id ask and what others thought, We have a while before the trip and I like to get all the information I can when faced with a decision.

Thanks all for your thoughts.
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Nov 25, 2010 7:08 AM CST Taking a trip, security checks have changed, you have to choose.
robsantiago15
robsantiago15robsantiago15Lowell, Massachusetts USA11 Threads 713 Posts
You forgot to add self-padding...
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Nov 25, 2010 7:20 AM CST Taking a trip, security checks have changed, you have to choose.
Raynew1959
Raynew1959Raynew1959Barrington, New Hampshire USA120 Threads 2 Polls 2,218 Posts
I'd go through the x-ray machine. You could fly at least half a dozen times in a year and not get enough radiation to be harmful.

Never had a pat down but have had my carry on checked a couple of times. The first time I was sitting waiting for my flight when a TSA agent approached me and asked to check my bag.
The second time was after my bag had gone through the scanner. I had a permanent marker which I forgot was there they wanted to check.

If it makes flying safe, I have no problems with it
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Nov 25, 2010 7:29 AM CST Taking a trip, security checks have changed, you have to choose.
invinciblemuse
invinciblemuseinvinciblemuseDresden, Saxony Germany38 Threads 2 Polls 6,026 Posts
scoutmaster: As a single dad wanting to protect my 14 year old daughter, wich do I choose. the xray showes her to her skin and the Airport security personall sees my little girl in all her detail as well as well as exposing her to light radiation,, Very light mind you. Or a pat down and some strange lady put her hand all over my preshious little girl.

What would you choose.


How about you suggest to her to try both - one method on your way out, the other on the way back.

That way she'll know what to expect in future and can decide better for herself.
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Nov 25, 2010 7:37 AM CST Taking a trip, security checks have changed, you have to choose.
scoutmaster
scoutmasterscoutmasterGranite falls, Washington USA29 Threads 6 Polls 1,100 Posts
invinciblemuse: How about you suggest to her to try both - one method on your way out, the other on the way back.

That way she'll know what to expect in future and can decide better for herself.


logicaly I can see the point of this but the daddy in me hates the idea of someone putting there hands all over my little girl. If she was older it might be different but she is only 14 and Im still daddy and anyone touching my little girl has to go threw me first. That is the dady in me, the rational man in me however wants to get as much information and thoughts available so I can make the most informed decision possible.
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Nov 25, 2010 7:45 AM CST Taking a trip, security checks have changed, you have to choose.
tomcatwarne
tomcatwarnetomcatwarneOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK289 Threads 7 Polls 17,106 Posts
I don't really care which one, i always seem to get pulled anyway maybe because I travel so much. I understand Fathers concern about xrays, it would bother my daughter but she is older and independent now. Oh by the way security are just doing their job and are under tight regulation themselves, if you feel you have been mistreated you can complain.grin angel devil
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Nov 25, 2010 7:59 AM CST Taking a trip, security checks have changed, you have to choose.
invinciblemuse
invinciblemuseinvinciblemuseDresden, Saxony Germany38 Threads 2 Polls 6,026 Posts
scoutmaster: logicaly I can see the point of this but the daddy in me hates the idea of someone putting there hands all over my little girl. If she was older it might be different but she is only 14 and Im still daddy and anyone touching my little girl has to go threw me first. That is the dady in me, the rational man in me however wants to get as much information and thoughts available so I can make the most informed decision possible.


Well, I'm not sure how severely they are patting people down nowadays, but it's been done to me numerous times and it wasn't so bad at all. I'm sure the few bad examples that have been highlighted so much by the media are the exception, not the rule.

Have a chat with with your daughter, she might be fine with the idea as long as you're there with her (I would insist on that).

Honestly, if I remember correctly what I was like when I was 14, I would have been absolutely mortified by the idea that some random stranger could see me naked. But everyone is different...

Try not to pass your own tense feelings about this on to your daughter, it'll just freak her out. Maybe you could explain that it's a necessary procedure and turn it into something funny instead.

Create a distraction for her, I dunno, perhaps you could make some silly jokes that the lady patting her down is trying to check, if your girl is ticklish, because ticklish people get window seats on the plane. Or that the security staff is checking for dangerous pencil sharpeners in her pockets.

I know - stupid expamples, but you get the idea. Anything really to ease the tension for the two of you. She will of course see right through it and possibly tell you that you're being silly, but it'll distract her... dunno
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Nov 25, 2010 8:11 AM CST Taking a trip, security checks have changed, you have to choose.
lifeisadream
lifeisadreamlifeisadreamMexi Go, Mexico State Mexico156 Threads 20 Polls 16,713 Posts
As it has said, let her decide.

Not a big deal for a grown up though. Myself I always get a "touching" inspection, because of: Mexican Passport and my family name. I just open my eyes and look at the most attractive male guard there.

cool
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Nov 25, 2010 8:33 AM CST Taking a trip, security checks have changed, you have to choose.
venusenvy
venusenvyvenusenvyCalgary, Alberta Canada27 Threads 20,003 Posts
I would choose not to use an American airline or touch down in America...In fact I do that now. ...MUCH less hassle wine
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Nov 25, 2010 8:38 AM CST Taking a trip, security checks have changed, you have to choose.
venusenvy
venusenvyvenusenvyCalgary, Alberta Canada27 Threads 20,003 Posts
O Scout I didnt realize that she was traveling within the country ...Lo Siento ...In that case the x-ray is less invasive. tough call though I know exactly how you feel about both sigh
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Nov 25, 2010 12:50 PM CST Taking a trip, security checks have changed, you have to choose.
RayfromUSA
RayfromUSARayfromUSAvienne, Rhone-Alpes France86 Threads 29 Polls 6,611 Posts
scoutmaster:

What would you choose.


I'll just stay out of the US.
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Nov 25, 2010 12:54 PM CST Taking a trip, security checks have changed, you have to choose.
RayfromUSA
RayfromUSARayfromUSAvienne, Rhone-Alpes France86 Threads 29 Polls 6,611 Posts
venusenvy: I would choose not to use an American airline or touch down in America...In fact I do that now. ...MUCH less hassle


Exactly.

And for American expats it's even worse than for non-Americans. On two occasions I was treated like a terror suspect just for having chosen to live in France rather than the US.
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Nov 26, 2010 12:49 AM CST Taking a trip, security checks have changed, you have to choose.
Witchaywoman
WitchaywomanWitchaywomanCarpentersville, Illinois USA97 Threads 13 Polls 4,344 Posts
demonfairy: Screeners have to go threw a check point and be screened like everyone else before they can go to work,all airport employees do,even pilots that fly your plane.Luggage is also checked for explosive material before it is loaded.
For the op:I would ask your daughter which one she preferred.The x-ray machine would be best i think for any child,but its up to the person.As far as harmful rays,it is safe.
A screener has to change jobs every 30 mins.,so one never knows which post they will be own at any point in time.Also a screener has to wear a badge that will turn red if they have been on the x-ray machine to long.(Most were only allowed to be on there 5 times in one day,when i was employed there)
Wishing your daughter a safe and happy trip..DF


There must be a million ways a sneaky employee at an airport could smuggle in something bad.
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