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RedexNorthumberland, England UK36 Threads 1,304 PostsR-so what do we all think of the new leader????
Redex: R-so what do we all think of the new leader????
I prefer his foreign policy and I like the 30% of his domestic policies which are not necessarily the undoing of the world(such as part renationalising the railways).
But this doesn't excuse the 70% which are the undoing of the world. I believe Jeremy will become a word for mistake. Oh no I've just done a jeremy, I've jezzed that right up, and so on.
He has no context for his anti-austerity platform and austerity is good because we can't rely on politics to spend money wisely. But if you had an eye for a good investment and the practical common sense to make an investment actually happen on time and under budget we could borrow more and cut less. Corbyn has neither of these.
The reason why we use the private sector and not the state is because the state has to obey the letter of the regulation which makes achieving anything hugely expensive and grossly inefficient. The Chinese could build an entire city with the resources Corbyn would use to build one railway branch.
And this is one reason why no system of British government, be it of the left or the right, can maintain the British standard of life as the rest of the world rises up. There needs to be a coming down to earth in our attitudes towards work and education and in almost everything we do. We have to become practical and efficient if we want to succeed in government or industry and Corbyn is the complete opposite of working practicality. They say he's a plain-speaker, but he's not down to earth, he's pie-in-the-sky.
Well now that is a surprise because I usually see your comments as mmmm shall we say antaginistic at times
But I reckon on most things you've hit the nail on the head. It will be fun to see this pan out. Working class----- I truly do not beleive in labeling people I do not have a class system in my head but yea I have plenty of other things but sadly it will make no difference to the outcome of anything. I will always vote or I feel I could not complain about what happens but for some time to come my vote will be with UKIP
But I reckon on most things you've hit the nail on the head. It will be fun to see this pan out. Working class----- I truly do not beleive in labeling people I do not have a class system in my head but yea I have plenty of other things but sadly it will make no difference to the outcome of anything. I will always vote or I feel I could not complain about what happens but for some time to come my vote will be with UKIP 
Redex: R-so what do we all think of the new leader????
I agree with some of his policies but not pulling out of NATO and the Trident missiles they a a dterent, the forces have been reduced a lot over the last numbere of year so wht happens to the security of this island
ianrees: I agree with some of his policies but not pulling out of NATO and the Trident missiles they a a dterent, the forces have been reduced a lot over the last numbere of year so wht happens to the security of this island
Agree that is the most important no no from him. People just did not have a strong enough alternative so took what they think best out bunch. If he listens (the rest do not) he may modify some policies but I feel sure he will never be this countries PM I am not worried. Labour is getting a good old shake up so maybe by next election they will have some-one else. Me I will probably vote UKIP unless of course other parties shake themselves up by the boots too.
Redex: R-so what do we all think of the new leader????
He's a politician who will be bought off sooner or later by the banks..
Phoenix: He's a politician who will be bought off sooner or later by the banks..
I totaly agree he will be bought off but look at nigel leader of UKIP he in also a Brussels Mp claiming expenses and never attending mainy meetings in Brussls when he should be there from a report on panorama a year ago, I was a Labour supporter for a long time now it it eithe Lib dems or Plaid Cymru for me
Phoenix: He's a politician who will be bought off sooner or later by the banks..
True but get the best out of him before it goes tooooo sour.
We cannot like politions but what would we have without them
maybe
or have we already got that.No I reckon I have to vote for whoever has the most things I agree with
even if its only 1
Conservative supported euthanasia for the over 75's?
What complete nonsense.
Why would the Tories look to reduce the age group of people are that are most likely to vote for them?
Source:
What complete nonsense.
Why would the Tories look to reduce the age group of people are that are most likely to vote for them?
Source:
lint874: Conservative supported euthanasia for the over 75's?
What complete nonsense. Why would the Tories look to reduce the age group of people are that are most likely to vote for them? Source:
What complete nonsense. Why would the Tories look to reduce the age group of people are that are most likely to vote for them? Source:
That was in 1983 - You were 17 years old and too young to have known about it let alone see and read the actual document. - It was released by a Civil service Whistle blower to the TUC.
As soon as the leak was was discovered all the media were immediately silenced under the official secrets acts from reporting either the existence of the think tank and all related documents, by the PM and the treasury an official police warnings were issued to the trades unions as the tank consisted of several National Front members among the then Tory party.
Redex: R-so what do we all think of the new leader????
I was unaware before but the only part of Corbyn's program I actually like - re-nationalising the railways - is illegal under EU law. Once capitalism buys out the parts of the infrastructure that pay it is illegal for the state to buy them back. Once they've got you when you're down there it is against the law to come back from it.
Which means Corbyn would have to get serious about leaving the EU or abandon renationalising the railways. My money is on the latter, but if the former that would be two policies of his that I really like.
Obstinance_Works: I was unaware before but the only part of Corbyn's program I actually like - re-nationalising the railways - is illegal under EU law. Once capitalism buys out the parts of the infrastructure that pay it is illegal for the state to buy them back. Once they've got you when you're down there it is against the law to come back from it.
Which means Corbyn would have to get serious about leaving the EU or abandon renationalising the railways. My money is on the latter, but if the former that would be two policies of his that I really like.
Which means Corbyn would have to get serious about leaving the EU or abandon renationalising the railways. My money is on the latter, but if the former that would be two policies of his that I really like.
I have always voted labour
But honestly think if Jeremy had been made labour leader before for the last general election
UKIP would have had o lot more seats
But honestly think if Jeremy had been made labour leader before for the last general election
UKIP would have had o lot more seats
danieljosh: I have always voted labour
But honestly think if Jeremy had been made labour leader before for the last general election
UKIP would have had o lot more seats
But honestly think if Jeremy had been made labour leader before for the last general election
UKIP would have had o lot more seats
I agree. The working class hate Blair. And Corbyn isn't like Blair except where it really matters to the working class: immigration. Corbyn is Blairer than Blair on immigration and UKIP would gain from this.
Obstinance_Works: I agree. The working class hate Blair. And Corbyn isn't like Blair except where it really matters to the working class: immigration. Corbyn is Blairer than Blair on immigration and UKIP would gain from this.
Corbyn will turn Labour into a party of rabbits and orcs. He is a preening sandal-wearer and his cabinet are quota goats. New Labour was already finished in Scotland and now it will be in the North. Labour is dead to the British working class.
Obstinance_Works: Corbyn will turn Labour into a party of rabbits and orcs. He is a preening sandal-wearer and his cabinet are quota goats. New Labour was already finished in Scotland and now it will be in the North. Labour is dead to the British working class.
Got to mostly agree with you. Shame that, as Scotland needs some alternatives too SNP.
Politics is a mess total mess at moment JMO
Redex: Got to mostly agree with you. Shame that, as Scotland needs some alternatives too SNP.
Politics is a mess total mess at moment JMO
Politics is a mess total mess at moment JMO
I hope we don't suffer years of the Tories because there's no one else to elect. Maybe UKIP and the new Lid Dem guy will come to fill the middle ground on economics as a patriotic and a liberal party respectively.
I can't imagine anyone but the SNP winning in Scotland, if you want to blackmail out of life far more than you are due in life then the SNP are your people. That's being rational tho. Greed could make the Scots feel entitled to extort even more and end up out in the cold with nothing but a social democracy they can't borrow any money for.
Obstinance_Works: I hope we don't suffer years of the Tories because there's no one else to elect. Maybe UKIP and the new Lid Dem guy will come to fill the middle ground on economics as a patriotic and a liberal party respectively.
I can't imagine anyone but the SNP winning in Scotland, if you want to blackmail out of life far more than you are due in life then the SNP are your people. That's being rational tho. Greed could make the Scots feel entitled to extort even more and end up out in the cold with nothing but a social democracy they can't borrow any money for.
I can't imagine anyone but the SNP winning in Scotland, if you want to blackmail out of life far more than you are due in life then the SNP are your people. That's being rational tho. Greed could make the Scots feel entitled to extort even more and end up out in the cold with nothing but a social democracy they can't borrow any money for.
I dont think the scots themselves will want more but could be encouraged on mass to shout for more. Although as you saw the canny scots were canny and did not want independance. Step too far for them. There will always be a group who do the loud shouting in anything but sense will prevail. They have seen this women shout all over and I think they will cringe in the end. I just hope other parties can at least give her a fight.
Now at least Cameron has seen 3 terms in office is enough for anyone leading a party wether you agree with policies or not take toll on a person. Cameron I beleive is a weaker person without Lib Dems curbing tories excesses as best they could.
Redex: I dont think the scots themselves will want more but could be encouraged on mass to shout for more. Although as you saw the canny scots were canny and did not want independance. Step too far for them. There will always be a group who do the loud shouting in anything but sense will prevail. They have seen this women shout all over and I think they will cringe in the end. I just hope other parties can at least give her a fight.
Now at least Cameron has seen 3 terms in office is enough for anyone leading a party wether you agree with policies or not take toll on a person. Cameron I beleive is a weaker person without Lib Dems curbing tories excesses as best they could.
Now at least Cameron has seen 3 terms in office is enough for anyone leading a party wether you agree with policies or not take toll on a person. Cameron I beleive is a weaker person without Lib Dems curbing tories excesses as best they could.
Yes, whilst I'm far from being a liberal I still feel sorry for Nick Clegg. I also think he helped curb Tory excess. Now the Tories are in sole power I hope the fact no party ever delivers fully on its program will mean that they don't actually make all the cuts they claim. We'll see.
Are you a labour supporter traditionally, Red?
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