I imagine, Germany collapsing will bring Merkel to her senses and figure out by then what to do without having to wait for the whole of Europe to be broken like you say.
Yep Chris, The whole Hawaiian islands are all basically made of hardened rocks from the Volcano of which the Big island is still very much active forming islands as we speak. So sand is not of abundance in the area. But what is so cool is that it stays in the island for a very long time pushed back in by the tides. But yes it is flown in every now and then.
Now on the parallel side as this thread is for solutions driven cause, we should not bicker about who is at fault or not. We have to unite on beheading Merkel and form a tribunal to make her responsible on this one man act she has done.
Listen to Mike and his rationale, I have personally talked to a lot of responsible people in Europe. Subscribe to the International New York times and it offers you a very insiders view of the war on Syria and the migration crisis connection.
I don't know what the latest is Bab but I am sure you are aware that last month, the France and UK had acted according to the orders of the USA on bombing more of the Assad camps because Putin deployed to aid him. To even out the fight on reinforcing the rebels the US can't back off right now because it has to be finished. Whether or not it is a lost cause for the US is yet to be determined but if you are not aware, your force and UK are there as a puppet of the US.
Anyways, all places in Greece are very beautiful Chris, almost like the beaches of Hawaii but its not naturally sandy like Greece. Did you know they flow in tons of tons of sands every now and then to Honolulu? It is basically all rocks as natural as the island, but the Sand stays..
Where as Greece is like the Philippines, full of beautiful sandy beaches..
Don't get me wrong, I have so much respect for women (at least Golda Meir, Ghandi, Nefertiti) but after the astronomical shortsightedness she committed from opening Germany's door to migrants whom she thought were all refugees, I lost respect on her. Then on top of that, Hillary as a liar and manipulator, I have no more hopes for any woman as a leader. Until further notice, I will pull my flag flying for women leader..
String, you have indulged yourself in politics now? But as long as we are in the same page dear String. Frankly, my stomach curls now when her name comes up. Cancelled all my contributions and boy my mails are flooded..
What is amazing is that it looks like a very simple initiation of solution. As it stands the money that Europe is spending on accommodating them, displacing all residents from their apartments and houses, is more expensive in the long run, than creating a budget now to build them a sustainable camp. Like I said, ask the Saudi Arabians who refuse to accommodate them but yet very willing to put out the expense of creating mosques for them? Insanity, if you ask me.
Did you know in the south of France by the Pyrennes, there are more mosque than churches? Go figure..
There is nothing more to be done, other than initiate achievable solutions and that is what we should concentrate on, instead of blaming who and why. Mistake is created on top of this blunder but move forward and start accountability process.
Obviously, all of us on here are only good at bickering and disagreements.
Well for a change, I would corner the solution process and do it. Do it fast because as of the latest report, 200 a day of people swarming into Germany, eventually Merkel will stand up and say: OKAY, I HAVE ENOUGH.
Then shut the migration completely by directing them to a refugee camp.
Good morning Bab, well the truth is that at this time, the only thing that anyone can do, including you and I and all of the world is to pick up where it is as it stands. Initiate drastic measure to stop this madness that she created. I would recommend her to be tried for such an incompetence. It can be done by proving to her about the accountability of showing actual numbers of refugees. Then make her admit that it was such a blunder to not consider the facts on this regard.
Like I said if a Hugh Hefner invited all the poor to go and live in his mansion, why not? The truth is if he prequalified that invite to only those with a criteria of dying and there are healthy people going in, then it would have been a different story.
Obs here is the problem, unless we go back to the real root of these astronomical blunder, we wont be able to solve it. What did you say in the first thread? Remember? She is bipolar. Therefore she was so sick on not thinking what the consequences were. Had she not been incompetent on this regard, she would have not extended an open hand. People would have not hastily packed their bags and come.
Now I don't blame these migrants. Heck if someone offers the poor to live in their mansion, why not? Now the mansion is full, what are you going to do? Force your fellow mansion owners to take them?
First: Merkel has to apologize to all the European union that she ABSOLUTELY was irresponsible in making an open invitation to migrants without investigating that they are not actually refugees, they are economic migrants.
Second: Investigate and establish who are actually migrants and then accommodate them accordingly. She should not force anyone who doesn't like them.
Third: If Germany can't take them all, then ask who wants them, put them there.
Fourth: Any excess of Germany's capability to accommodate then build a camp.
Make sure Saudi Arabia will sustain their economic needs, instead of offering to build MOSQUE for them all over Europe, finance them in a camp and build as many mosques as they want.
So What is up ahead on this debate? Merkel should come out in the open and admit that it was stupid of her to be bipolar like Obs said so in my first thread.
Anyways, the US has proposed for the acceptance of "ONLY" true refugees. And how do they do it? Serious and time consuming investigation and before they can come in, would take years. At least that is the latest that I heard about them.
What I am hoping for Merkel to realize is that: she failed to administer a true humanitarian effort by inviting non refugees pretending to be refugees. Had she investigated them she would have learned, they don't deserve to drain the economy of Europe, let alone be cause all these bickering.
Yes Bab, on our first premise, it wasn't for refugees. It is more for the economic migrants because she didn't investigate that they aren't truly refugees, with the exception of very few.
Bab I would have given her all my salutations, if there were true refugees. They are more economic migrants and very few refugees. If the truth of these numbers are laid out in her brain then I am sure she'd say: Oh I am sorry, I will only welcome refugees. Then respect and admiration comes flying. But we keep talking about this as a humanitarian effort when for lack of a better word, it is plain irresponsibility on her part. Now if she would just be the one to take them since she took it upon her own motives to do so then there would be no complaints, is there?
Now if she can come up with a solution that absolve her irresponsible and incompetence in addressing the root of the problem, that just might make us all stop this bickering.
Hello Bab, I like the new pic. Let us find out if Merkel would just admit that she was stupid in making an open invitation to the economic migrants and undermined the real needs of the true refugees.
Had she not invited them, there would have been no imbroglio and voila, everyone would have a true humanitarian commitment to help them. But no. It is very clear that her selfish motives are just for her and now that realizing she can't take them all, she passes it to the reluctant countries.
She is so stupid and if I would have a face to face conversation with her, I would exactly say the same thing in fervor. She has documents to prove that for every 300 migrants, there is only three refugees. If this is in fact the truth then she should resign for making such a ludicrous and irresponsible decision.
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I imagine, Germany collapsing will bring Merkel to her senses and figure out by then what to do without having to wait for the whole of Europe to be broken like you say.