how close they came to be living in a Fascist police state.
Obama Releases Secret Bush Anti-Terrorism Memos
by The Associated Press
NPR.org, March 2, 2009 · The Obama administration threw open the curtain on years of Bush-era secrets Monday, revealing anti-terrorism memos that claimed exceptional search-and-seizure powers and divulging that the CIA had destroyed 92 videotapes of interrogations and other treatment of terrorism suspects.
The Justice Department released nine legal opinions showing that following the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, the Bush administration determined that certain constitutional rights would not apply during the coming fight. Within two weeks, government lawyers were already discussing ways to wiretap U.S. conversations without warrants.
Videotapes Destroyed
The Obama administration also acknowledged in court documents Monday that the CIA had destroyed 92 videos involving terrorism suspects, including interrogations — far more than had been known.
The legal memos written by the Bush administration's Office of Legal Counsel show a government grappling with how to wage war on terrorism in a fast-changing world. The conclusion, reiterated in page after page of documents, was that the president had broad authority to set aside constitutional rights.
Fourth Amendment protections against unwarranted search and seizure, for instance, did not apply in the United States as long as the president was combating terrorism, the Justice Department said in an Oct. 23, 2001, memo.
"First Amendment speech and press rights may also be subordinated to the overriding need to wage war successfully," Deputy Assistant Attorney General John Yoo wrote, adding later: "The current campaign against terrorism may require even broader exercises of federal power domestically."
he said the government's interest in keeping the nation safe following the terrorist attacks "might justify warrantless searches."
Presidential Powers
The memos reflected a belief within the Bush administration that the president had broad powers that could not be checked by Congress or the courts. That stance, in one form or another, became the foundation for many polices: holding detainees at Guantanamo Bay, eavesdropping on U.S. citizens without warrants, using tough new CIA interrogation tactics and locking U.S. citizens in military brigs without charges
ACLU attorney Amrit Singh said the CIA should be held in contempt of court for holding back the information for so long.
"The large number of videotapes destroyed confirms that the agency engaged in a systematic attempt to hide evidence of its illegal interrogations and to evade the court's order," Singh said.
actually, the smart ones do know...but I'm sure that somehow, "they" will turn it around and call President Obama a terrorist yet again for divulging the info etc...
I was going to post this thread yesterday, but didn't feel like arguing... good luck Ooby...there's much more info on what was done in the Bush administration--he's letting it all out.. Prayers for him, that's for sure.
When a president dies it's customary to issue a postage stamp with his picture on it. I'm sure glad stamps today are self adhesive (not that I would ever actually pay for a stamp with Bushs ugly face on it) because the thought of licking the backside of that stamp would make me
Americans never wanted to know - and if any journalist/writer dared to mention some facts - he got the sack or at least was called unpatriotic and/or left wing and/or sympathizer with the terrorists etc.
Remember "Either you are with us - or you are our enemy "
In the International Forums - see the early threads - only to mention the subject here - one was called bashing the Americans -
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how close they came to be living in a Fascist police state.
Obama Releases Secret Bush Anti-Terrorism Memos
by The Associated Press
NPR.org, March 2, 2009 · The Obama administration threw open the curtain on years of Bush-era secrets Monday, revealing anti-terrorism memos that claimed exceptional search-and-seizure powers and divulging that the CIA had destroyed 92 videotapes of interrogations and other treatment of terrorism suspects.
The Justice Department released nine legal opinions showing that following the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, the Bush administration determined that certain constitutional rights would not apply during the coming fight. Within two weeks, government lawyers were already discussing ways to wiretap U.S. conversations without warrants.
Videotapes Destroyed
The Obama administration also acknowledged in court documents Monday that the CIA had destroyed 92 videos involving terrorism suspects, including interrogations — far more than had been known.
The legal memos written by the Bush administration's Office of Legal Counsel show a government grappling with how to wage war on terrorism in a fast-changing world. The conclusion, reiterated in page after page of documents, was that the president had broad authority to set aside constitutional rights.
Fourth Amendment protections against unwarranted search and seizure, for instance, did not apply in the United States as long as the president was combating terrorism, the Justice Department said in an Oct. 23, 2001, memo.
"First Amendment speech and press rights may also be subordinated to the overriding need to wage war successfully," Deputy Assistant Attorney General John Yoo wrote, adding later: "The current campaign against terrorism may require even broader exercises of federal power domestically."
he said the government's interest in keeping the nation safe following the terrorist attacks "might justify warrantless searches."
Presidential Powers
The memos reflected a belief within the Bush administration that the president had broad powers that could not be checked by Congress or the courts. That stance, in one form or another, became the foundation for many polices: holding detainees at Guantanamo Bay, eavesdropping on U.S. citizens without warrants, using tough new CIA interrogation tactics and locking U.S. citizens in military brigs without charges
ACLU attorney Amrit Singh said the CIA should be held in contempt of court for holding back the information for so long.
"The large number of videotapes destroyed confirms that the agency engaged in a systematic attempt to hide evidence of its illegal interrogations and to evade the court's order," Singh said.