Victory Garden (34)
you'd have to consider the energy consumed tilling, planting, maintaining and harvesting. it could be a zero sum game. 
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Indyfella: you'd have to consider the energy consumed tilling, planting, maintaining and harvesting. it could be a zero sum game.
As much energy is used transporting food as is used to produce it. Additionally, about 15% of the regular foodstuffs we consume and which can be grown domestically are imported.
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Well.... Let me put it this way..... I have started one as well as my neighbors (wives). We are all going to share our bounty and do some canning this fall. I think it will be a huge plus for all of us. We are all going to share in our harvests of wild game.
Thanks to our ice storm earlier, we also have fore wood piled high.
This is what community should be like.
zee
Thanks to our ice storm earlier, we also have fore wood piled high.
This is what community should be like.
zee
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zee1ander: Well.... Let me put it this way..... I have started one as well as my neighbors (wives). We are all going to share our bounty and do some canning this fall. I think it will be a huge plus for all of us. We are all going to share in our harvests of wild game.
Thanks to our ice storm earlier, we also have fore wood piled high.
This is what community should be like.
zee
Thanks to our ice storm earlier, we also have fore wood piled high.
This is what community should be like.
zee
BTW.... we have staked out and tilled. Compost is going in this weekend, weather permitting.... and plants are being planned.... not yet planted.... way too early.
zee
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zee1ander: BTW.... we have staked out and tilled. Compost is going in this weekend, weather permitting.... and plants are being planned.... not yet planted.... way too early.
zee
zee
I think a lot of this is about community, friendships, working together, etc.
I still have some snow and ice to melt yet (even though it was 70 today) and I don't get excited till May 1. Our last frost date is May 10.
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toranoga: Last Friday, president Barack Obama received 75,000+ signatures requesting that the White House recreate the Victory garden first planted by Eleanor Roosevelt in 1943.
Through WWII and into the early 1950's, Americans grew 40% of their food needs locally.
Is this a good idea and is it still practical to produce that much food locally?
How much energy could be saved by producing food locally?
it would definately be better for you...vegetables are picked WAY before they are ripe...in order to have a shelf life, to be able to be sold to consumers...i think everyone should do it...or atleast, be able to...Through WWII and into the early 1950's, Americans grew 40% of their food needs locally.
Is this a good idea and is it still practical to produce that much food locally?
How much energy could be saved by producing food locally?
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zee1ander: Well.... Let me put it this way..... I have started one as well as my neighbors (wives). We are all going to share our bounty and do some canning this fall. I think it will be a huge plus for all of us. We are all going to share in our harvests of wild game.
Thanks to our ice storm earlier, we also have fore wood piled high.
This is what community should be like.
zee
that's what i need to learn...how to can and preserve vegetables...i can grow 'em...but i need to learn to preserve them without bacteriaThanks to our ice storm earlier, we also have fore wood piled high.
This is what community should be like.
zee
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jlw45: that's what i need to learn...how to can and preserve vegetables...i can grow 'em...but i need to learn to preserve them without bacteria
I think everyone should know this. I have been canning for about 12 years now and every time I pop one open, it is heaven. So much better than what you can buy. I can so much stuff I give about half of it away. A lot of work, but so worth it.
zee
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jlw45: it would definately be better for you...vegetables are picked WAY before they are ripe...in order to have a shelf life, to be able to be sold to consumers...i think everyone should do it...or atleast, be able to...
You also know what has been put on produce you grow yourself and you get exercise working in the garden. There are a lot of urban areas that are starting to us the English system of allotments to encourage locally grown.
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Wow...you guys are gonna make good husbands some day! 
Gotta love a domesticated and talented man! 
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Charli15695: Wow...you guys are gonna make good husbands some day! Gotta love a domesticated and talented man!
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I was talking with a friend the other day about gardening and she was telling me about her experience with growing the inverted tomato plants. She said last year she did not have bug or worm one. She also had more tomatoes than she knew what to do with. She told me rather than spending a lot of money on a kit, I should buy some 10 gallon buckets and drill 1-1/2 in holes in the bottom and hang them.
I'm gonna give it a try this year.
zee
I'm gonna give it a try this year.
zee
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jlw45: that's what i need to learn...how to can and preserve vegetables...i can grow 'em...but i need to learn to preserve them without bacteria
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zee1ander: I was talking with a friend the other day about gardening and she was telling me about her experience with growing the inverted tomato plants. She said last year she did not have bug or worm one. She also had more tomatoes than she knew what to do with. She told me rather than spending a lot of money on a kit, I should buy some 10 gallon buckets and drill 1-1/2 in holes in the bottom and hang them.
I'm gonna give it a try this year.
zee
I'm gonna give it a try this year.
zee
A friend of mine did this with landscaping material too! She grew them on her apt patio -- she had tons of tomato! Good luck with it!
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jlw45: well, why don't you get rid of the cats and come see me?...
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Charli15695: Wow...you guys are gonna make good husbands some day! Gotta love a domesticated and talented man!
Let's be careful how we use the word domesticated!
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Indyfella: you'd have to consider the energy consumed tilling, planting, maintaining and harvesting. it could be a zero sum game.
Right.
A Victory Supermarket would be more efficient.
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toranoga: Let's be careful how we use the word domesticated!
zee
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toranoga: You also know what has been put on produce you grow yourself and you get exercise working in the garden. There are a lot of urban areas that are starting to us the English system of allotments to encourage locally grown.
like i said, people would be healthier for it...the vitamin content would be at higher levels being vine ripened rather than shelf ripened...japan has the lowest rate of cancer in the world...and one studt suggested that it was due to the way they market their produce...everybody buys their produce from the street vending markets...and the produce is picked that mourning and is vine ripe....where as ours {and the U.S. has the highest cancer rate} is picked on the west coast and packed to sell on the east coast and visa-versa...not to meantion they have to have a shelf life...so, alot of their vitemin potentual is still on the vine and not in the produce we buy at the market...growing your own veggies can only be a good thing...people are so fast food oriented, and spoiled...we could all use some lessons in slowing it down ,just a little bit... ------ This thread is Archived ------
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Through WWII and into the early 1950's, Americans grew 40% of their food needs locally.
Is this a good idea and is it still practical to produce that much food locally?
How much energy could be saved by producing food locally?