Jade Goody R.I.P (58)
bournemouthbelle: We are not here to judge her just to pay our respects..You obviously have no knowledge of her "upbringing" and as such should keep your thoughts regarding Jade to yourself. She has made a difference to people's lives in a positive way.What are you going to do for the benefit of mankind?
nice top meet you bournemouthbelle anyway we agree to disagree its interesting that we have different views on the subject which makes for interesting views i do know a little about her background yes she showed a lot of courage towards the end
what am i doing for the benefit of mankind i have fathered 4 children and i am proud of them and have been a single parent to them they know right from wrong all are working even in the difficult economic climate in the uk but i dont believe that we are here for the benefit of others
if you want to slag me off just email me i will reply
all the best
bazza5060: nice top meet you bournemouthbelle anyway we agree to disagree its interesting that we have different views on the subject which makes for interesting views i do know a little about her background yes she showed a lot of courage towards the end
what am i doing for the benefit of mankind i have fathered 4 children and i am proud of them and have been a single parent to them they know right from wrong all are working even in the difficult economic climate in the uk but i dont believe that we are here for the benefit of others
if you want to slag me off just email me i will reply
all the best
what am i doing for the benefit of mankind i have fathered 4 children and i am proud of them and have been a single parent to them they know right from wrong all are working even in the difficult economic climate in the uk but i dont believe that we are here for the benefit of others
if you want to slag me off just email me i will reply
all the best
I'm not here to put people down.You are entitled to an opinion but on a moral tone you shoudn't "slag " someone who has just died.I'm not in the business of moralising,just rubbing along with the rest of the human race.I seem to have stirred up some emotions with this thread.No offence meant but keep off the soap box when someone is paying their respects to a young girl's passing.
bazza5060: hiya rust knight
are we in the minority on this one
or have we seen it as how it is/was
yes i still am sympathetic to her sons and family and to anyones family whos parents get taken at an early age
what pisses me of is that fact that we have young men and boys that are in another country getting maimed killed everyday not too far away and they hardly get a mention in the media
guys can and do get prostrate,testicular cancers they die from it as well but that never makes the headlines or just gets a little mention
oh and by the way the n h s gave jade the latest drug that is too expensive for ordinary folk to have
did i say anything that was untrue
if so please explain
are we in the minority on this one
or have we seen it as how it is/was
yes i still am sympathetic to her sons and family and to anyones family whos parents get taken at an early age
what pisses me of is that fact that we have young men and boys that are in another country getting maimed killed everyday not too far away and they hardly get a mention in the media
guys can and do get prostrate,testicular cancers they die from it as well but that never makes the headlines or just gets a little mention
oh and by the way the n h s gave jade the latest drug that is too expensive for ordinary folk to have
did i say anything that was untrue
if so please explain
I think it's very sad for anybody to die from such a silent killer, but I have to admit to being one of the minority who didn't warm to her 'in your face' love of her own ignorance - maybe a terrible thing to say but she almost seemed to revel in the fact that she had something that could now cause her genuine sympathy and 'shut up' any of her detractors by then making them seem miserable.
My mother was fascinated by the woman and would tell me everytime she appeared on the WORLD (for God's sake) News.
I wasn't the least bit interested in the woman, but found it of slightly morbid interest that a nobody was made into a so-called 'celebrity' due to appearing on a cheap nasty reality show and manipulating the media to her infinite advantage.
But it goes to show that every human being has the capability of (was it Andy Warhol?) getting their 15 minutes of fame in a lifetime........... to drag it out and on and on for seven years was really quite remarkable. I don't believe she really gave a toss about warning other women (young and old) about cervical cancer, I don't honestly believe she even particularly cared about all the money she made - I DO believe that she really really enjoyed being in the spotlight and that's probably a very very human desire that maybe even many of us on CS share - right?
bournemouthbelle: I'm not here to put people down.You are entitled to an opinion but on a moral tone you shoudn't "slag " someone who has just died.I'm not in the business of moralising,just rubbing along with the rest of the human race.I seem to have stirred up some emotions with this thread.No offence meant but keep off the soap box when someone is paying their respects to a young girl's passing.
Good people die. Bad people die. I'm totally ambivalent on whether the young woman was 'good' or 'bad'. I say a prayer for all the 'unknown' thousands of people who die each day.
Should there be any dignity in death?
Should you make your sad little marriage a public occasion or just for family, loved ones and friends?
Should you spend your last few weeks and days and hours alone with those nearest and dearest to you safe in the belief that your kids will have a secure future? (your husband could always sell the £200,000 Bentley and the fancy mansion if the kids education was that important).
Should you revel in publicity even trying to make a deal being interviewed on your death bed and maybe even the moment you die?........ but that wouldn't quite be acceptable to tv audiences in the UK - not quite yet!
Some people have dignity - some don't............ I think death should be a dignified affair, and not yet another publicity stunt.
Loving mother doing the best in the last few weeks of her life for her two little boys?
We have free education in the UK. She had enough money already. Money does not buy you happiness. I'd rather have spent a few quality hours with a parent rather than a parent leave me more money I didn't need.
My opinion - her hunger for publicity did not make her either a good or bad person................ but she was ultimately a sad and empty person whose obsession with making money from the media left her the way she always was - loud and ignorant to the very last, and totally lacking in the values and good taste that British people USED to be known for.
IT WOULD APPEAR THAT WE HAVE A "BIG BROTHER" BEING CARRIED OUT ON THIS THREAD.WE ALL KNOW ABOUT JADE SO ISSUING PUBLICATION ABOUT HER PAST LIFE IS NEITHER HERE NOR THERE.SHE IS IN GOD'S HANDS NOW AND HE ALONE CAN JUDGE HER.
I HAVE SYMPATHY FOR ANY HUMAN BEING THAT SUFFERS IN LIFE,WHATEVER THE CIRCUMSTANCES.THE MEDIA IS BEYOND HER CONTROL NOW, BUT THE DAY OF HER DEATH HAD MASS MEDIA COVERAGE ON SKY NEWS ETC.
JADE IS NOT HERE NOW TO DEFEND HERSELF AGAINST YOURS OR ANYONE ELSE'S HARSH JUDGEMENT OF THE WAY SHE CHOSE TO LIVE HER LIFE.
JUDGE NOT THAT THOU SHALT NOT BE JUDGED.
HAVE A NICE DAY EVERYONE XXX
I HAVE SYMPATHY FOR ANY HUMAN BEING THAT SUFFERS IN LIFE,WHATEVER THE CIRCUMSTANCES.THE MEDIA IS BEYOND HER CONTROL NOW, BUT THE DAY OF HER DEATH HAD MASS MEDIA COVERAGE ON SKY NEWS ETC.
JADE IS NOT HERE NOW TO DEFEND HERSELF AGAINST YOURS OR ANYONE ELSE'S HARSH JUDGEMENT OF THE WAY SHE CHOSE TO LIVE HER LIFE.
JUDGE NOT THAT THOU SHALT NOT BE JUDGED.
HAVE A NICE DAY EVERYONE XXX
Well, she is dead now.
sorry but i feel this is not a subject for a singles forum just my opinion
wedward: sorry but i feel this is not a subject for a singles forum just my opinion
Oh Weddie, we have a current events option. Come on.
Don't be sucha fuddy duddy.
I like to see Rusty gain a friend.
morgan5: I don't think it was the Op's intention to make her out to be a saint, just in her own way to pay her respects.
Big Brother did make her famous and she took the opportunity who wouldn't?
She was in a position to to make sure her children will be provided for and give them opportunities in life she never had, i commend her for that.
She also raised awareness of Cervical Cancer, which is a positive thing and could save the lives of other women.
Maybe she should be rememebered for the positives, not the mistakes she made, as we all do. Difference is ours are not plastered all over the media . jmo
Big Brother did make her famous and she took the opportunity who wouldn't?
She was in a position to to make sure her children will be provided for and give them opportunities in life she never had, i commend her for that.
She also raised awareness of Cervical Cancer, which is a positive thing and could save the lives of other women.
Maybe she should be rememebered for the positives, not the mistakes she made, as we all do. Difference is ours are not plastered all over the media . jmo
Hi Morgan.
Lovely post, and a pleasure to see you write this.
I think she will be remembered for a lot of things, good and bad.
I don't think it was the Op's intention to make her out to be a saint, just in her own way to pay her respects.
Thank you for that.I just wanted to pay respects to another human being.We live in a very harsh and critical world and I wonder how many on here would survive a viewing under a microscope.I for sure wouldnt, and I am certain that some of you have done things in life that you may have regretted.I refuse to add fuel to an ever growing fire by people who just want to vent their spleen as usual.
On that note I will wish you all a good and sinfree life!
Thank you for that.I just wanted to pay respects to another human being.We live in a very harsh and critical world and I wonder how many on here would survive a viewing under a microscope.I for sure wouldnt, and I am certain that some of you have done things in life that you may have regretted.I refuse to add fuel to an ever growing fire by people who just want to vent their spleen as usual.
On that note I will wish you all a good and sinfree life!
Sommerauer71: Hi Morgan.
Lovely post, and a pleasure to see you write this.
I think she will be remembered for a lot of things, good and bad.
Lovely post, and a pleasure to see you write this.
I think she will be remembered for a lot of things, good and bad.
Thank you Sommer. I was diagnosed with Cervical Cancer when i was 29, until then i really knew nothing about it. My children were small and i went to pieces and was so frightened, it resulted in a hysterectomy so i was one of the lucky ones. I'm sure she will be remembered for many things. To me a brave and courageous young women.
bournemouthbelle: I don't think it was the Op's intention to make her out to be a saint, just in her own way to pay her respects.Thank you for that.I just wanted to pay respects to another human being.We live in a very harsh and critical world and I wonder how many on here would survive a viewing under a microscope.I for sure wouldnt, and I am certain that some of you have done things in life that you may have regretted.I refuse to add fuel to an ever growing fire by people who just want to vent their spleen as usual.
On that note I will wish you all a good and sinfree life!
On that note I will wish you all a good and sinfree life!
A nice post apart from the 'spleen venting' bit - don't we all choose to note the things we want and ignore the rest?
I have to admit that I do admire the young lady for ruthlessly taking advantage of her situation and also increasing the awareness of cervical cancer in young women - the demand for smear tests in the UK went up considerably as a result and has probably saved many lives.
So, I admire her focus and determination; doesn't mean I have to like her, does it?
The media made her a star and she took advantage of the media - it was a two-way benefit thing and everybody was happy.
I once took part in a BBC talent writing competition. I was short-listed. The other contestants were totally amazing people who had overcome terrible things in their lives; quite a humbling experience for me because I had not suffered and overcome the terrible personal tragedies these people had managed to overcome and turn into something very special.
There was one vibrant young man there who was very excited to tell his story. He told about the most exciting day of his life that filled him with tremendous enthusiasm and an awesome thrill that he said was absolutely wonderful.
He'd had a test and had gone for the results and had found out that he was HIV positive. It was the happiest day of his life. He felt so dynamic and alive.
I kinda have a glimpse of what this Jade woman felt - she had this disease that was going to kill her and she felt she had the need and the will to live every moment until the last.
It is strange how the knowledge of death can somehow transform a young person and turn a negative into a positive.
I have to admit that I do admire the young lady for ruthlessly taking advantage of her situation and also increasing the awareness of cervical cancer in young women - the demand for smear tests in the UK went up considerably as a result and has probably saved many lives.
So, I admire her focus and determination; doesn't mean I have to like her, does it?
The media made her a star and she took advantage of the media - it was a two-way benefit thing and everybody was happy.
I once took part in a BBC talent writing competition. I was short-listed. The other contestants were totally amazing people who had overcome terrible things in their lives; quite a humbling experience for me because I had not suffered and overcome the terrible personal tragedies these people had managed to overcome and turn into something very special.
There was one vibrant young man there who was very excited to tell his story. He told about the most exciting day of his life that filled him with tremendous enthusiasm and an awesome thrill that he said was absolutely wonderful.
He'd had a test and had gone for the results and had found out that he was HIV positive. It was the happiest day of his life. He felt so dynamic and alive.
I kinda have a glimpse of what this Jade woman felt - she had this disease that was going to kill her and she felt she had the need and the will to live every moment until the last.
It is strange how the knowledge of death can somehow transform a young person and turn a negative into a positive.
She already had enough assets to pay for her two kids education; it was her choice to have an undignified death........ I am not passing judgement, merely stating the facts - bringing attention to cervical cancer was a good thing whatever the motivation.
Some people give a toss about a dignified death and others don't - we are all different and I have no idea if I'd like to go out screaming for attention or curl up quietly somewhere and die on my own listening to my last few croaking breaths and dreaming of a better life long ago and far away!
Some people give a toss about a dignified death and others don't - we are all different and I have no idea if I'd like to go out screaming for attention or curl up quietly somewhere and die on my own listening to my last few croaking breaths and dreaming of a better life long ago and far away!
rusty_knight: A nice post apart from the 'spleen venting' bit - don't we all choose to note the things we want and ignore the rest?
I have to admit that I do admire the young lady for ruthlessly taking advantage of her situation and also increasing the awareness of cervical cancer in young women - the demand for smear tests in the UK went up considerably as a result and has probably saved many lives.
So, I admire her focus and determination; doesn't mean I have to like her, does it?
The media made her a star and she took advantage of the media - it was a two-way benefit thing and everybody was happy.
I once took part in a BBC talent writing competition. I was short-listed. The other contestants were totally amazing people who had overcome terrible things in their lives; quite a humbling experience for me because I had not suffered and overcome the terrible personal tragedies these people had managed to overcome and turn into something very special.
There was one vibrant young man there who was very excited to tell his story. He told about the most exciting day of his life that filled him with tremendous enthusiasm and an awesome thrill that he said was absolutely wonderful.
He'd had a test and had gone for the results and had found out that he was HIV positive. It was the happiest day of his life. He felt so dynamic and alive.
I kinda have a glimpse of what this Jade woman felt - she had this disease that was going to kill her and she felt she had the need and the will to live every moment until the last.
It is strange how the knowledge of death can somehow transform a young person and turn a negative into a positive.
I have to admit that I do admire the young lady for ruthlessly taking advantage of her situation and also increasing the awareness of cervical cancer in young women - the demand for smear tests in the UK went up considerably as a result and has probably saved many lives.
So, I admire her focus and determination; doesn't mean I have to like her, does it?
The media made her a star and she took advantage of the media - it was a two-way benefit thing and everybody was happy.
I once took part in a BBC talent writing competition. I was short-listed. The other contestants were totally amazing people who had overcome terrible things in their lives; quite a humbling experience for me because I had not suffered and overcome the terrible personal tragedies these people had managed to overcome and turn into something very special.
There was one vibrant young man there who was very excited to tell his story. He told about the most exciting day of his life that filled him with tremendous enthusiasm and an awesome thrill that he said was absolutely wonderful.
He'd had a test and had gone for the results and had found out that he was HIV positive. It was the happiest day of his life. He felt so dynamic and alive.
I kinda have a glimpse of what this Jade woman felt - she had this disease that was going to kill her and she felt she had the need and the will to live every moment until the last.
It is strange how the knowledge of death can somehow transform a young person and turn a negative into a positive.
Good post Rusty.
I too never liked her, I could not bear to read about her.
I didn't.
But I did when I learnt she was terminal, I was interested, in how she would deal with it.
She dealt with it, in the only way I expected her to. With that sassiness and crassness of a woman from a deep dark place, in London, a house full of misery. She got out, made good and to her last day, on Mother's Day, she has had the nation talking.
I feel sad, I do, but there is s smile mixed with that.
And with that smile, come the words.
Good for you, girl.
Sommer I couldn't have put it better myself! 
Sommerauer71: Good post Rusty.
I too never liked her, I could not bear to read about her.
I didn't.
But I did when I learnt she was terminal, I was interested, in how she would deal with it.
She dealt with it, in the only way I expected her to. With that sassiness and crassness of a woman from a deep dark place, in London, a house full of misery. She got out, made good and to her last day, on Mother's Day, she has had the nation talking.
I feel sad, I do, but there is s smile mixed with that.
And with that smile, come the words.
Good for you, girl.
I too never liked her, I could not bear to read about her.
I didn't.
But I did when I learnt she was terminal, I was interested, in how she would deal with it.
She dealt with it, in the only way I expected her to. With that sassiness and crassness of a woman from a deep dark place, in London, a house full of misery. She got out, made good and to her last day, on Mother's Day, she has had the nation talking.
I feel sad, I do, but there is s smile mixed with that.
And with that smile, come the words.
Good for you, girl.
Yup - I think you encapsulated what I admired about the woman......... and you have to admit that however one might detest a lowlife like Max Clifford who makes his money out of the misery of other people's lives that he too serves a purpose in, as Voltaire's character Pangloss in Candide said:
'All is for the best in the best of all possible worlds'
Pangloss was, of course, dying of syphillis when he uttered these words and almost totally blind, but what an eternal optimist!
Sommerauer71: Well, she is dead now.
No - she lives on here in the CS EU forum!
rusty_knight: She already had enough assets to pay for her two kids education; it was her choice to have an undignified death........ I am not passing judgement, merely stating the facts - bringing attention to cervical cancer was a good thing whatever the motivation.
Some people give a toss about a dignified death and others don't - we are all different and I have no idea if I'd like to go out screaming for attention or curl up quietly somewhere and die on my own listening to my last few croaking breaths and dreaming of a better life long ago and far away!
Some people give a toss about a dignified death and others don't - we are all different and I have no idea if I'd like to go out screaming for attention or curl up quietly somewhere and die on my own listening to my last few croaking breaths and dreaming of a better life long ago and far away!
Well, in all honesty, do we look more favourably on people who choose to die with a dignity?
I don't see dignity entering into anything if I am to lose a loved one. I see my loved one losing their life.
What is dignity? How does one die with it?
She got cancer, terminal and she died. End of.
I too, have no idea how I would feel, but I would want to make sure that I was with the ones I loved. And I would be, and I would not be caring what the rest of people thought.
I don't care that she had made enough cash, she made more, I don't care.
It is all what my life has been for the last 20 years, making money, raising my children, to ensure they had a good solid start. What my dad for me.
We all see love as a different thing, I see a mother who loved her boys.
She saw her poverty, and believed that money makes life better. It did for her. It does for some, would it for me? I don't know, I don't have any burning desire to be rich, I never will be, I just have that need to fill my days dreaming about being rich.
Because she made cash and people don't like the way she did it, then fine, but it does not mean that she was a bad mother, or she in any way deserved this.
It is bittersweet to read the comments about her.
People aren't paying their respects, funerals never are that. Respect is what you pay to for a person who is in your life, ongoing.
Death gives us a chance, to have a go at them without feeling guilty about it. And shout up what we really thought about them.
My grandmother on the day of my grandfather's funeral, a person commented about how she was not crying.
She turned her beautiful face to look at this woman, and said with the utmost beauty
'I have cried for 47 years over that man, no more'
Jade Goody? No, I could not stand her, but I saw determination, a power that she shouted out, in her dialect, crass, loud, not a drop of elegance, but she did not want any of that. SHe wanted to make money.
But she cared.
She loved and she gave her money to those she did love, if she had not, she would still have bloody died.
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yes shilpa did forgive her but those things should not have been screamed at anyone in the first place
i am not spiteful but there are other more real deserving people in the world that deserve the best of treatment for with what they are suffering with getting the drugs that they deserve and not just because who they are
i am sympathetic to the family and no one should be taken at such an early age to pass on
Where have you been for the past 7 years! Jade had her own show on LIving T.V. after being on the original "Big Brother" The last Celebrity Big Brother was just that- for celebrities.With regards her treatment for cancer there is a National Health service in the U.K. which is how she was treated, with Macmillan nurses who are there for everyone and not for private health care.I read your profile and yes I do agree you are a bit "warped" You have no right to be so judgemental about another human being.I did not know Jade and yes she wasn't perfect,who is,but her imperfections is what endeared her to the rest of humanity.All except you of course.