ARE MEN DIFFERENT? (60)

May 25, 2009 6:23 AM CST ARE MEN DIFFERENT?
Sommerauer71
Sommerauer71Sommerauer71Salzburg, Austria133 Threads 4 Polls 12,414 Posts
Tulefel: I’ve been a housewife, and I’ve been a provider for my family. Dunno what’s worst… or best… depends on your point of view. The both situations have their pluses and minuses.

You’ve got a lot of responsibilities while sitting at home doing “nothing” just cooking, cleaning, washing, ironing, shopping… When your family members come home, and it can be at different times of a day, a hot meal is to be on the table, and “provider” is to have a fresh shirt to put on every morning, and the baby-girl is to have her plaits done before leaving to school, and so on, never ending or beginning… Never mind that you don’t have your own money, hence are dependent on someone’s good will. Or lack of such.

As a woman and a provider, you are out there in the wild, hunting your “mammoths” (and in this fair Kingdom of Sweden women get 86 % of men’s salary, ceteris paribus), and when returning home, you still have a lot of “nothing” to do: the very same cooking, cleaning, washing… And you don’t see your child grow-up. And you have no time for your spouse. But you have your own money!

Sometimes I look at birds: one is sitting on eggs doing nothing else, while the other provides. If they start to argue about what role is more appropriate and important, and who’s supposed to do what, their kids wouldn’t have a chance to survive.

But as to stereotypes… I’m old-fashioned and would prefer to stay at home and feed the fire, while my provider is out there hunting mammoths for the family… But it’s, of course, kind of unfounded dreams…


I missed this post and I think it is a great explaination Tulefel...


And the highlighted post, is just brilliant.
May 25, 2009 7:55 AM CST ARE MEN DIFFERENT?
Tulefel: I’ve been a housewife, and I’ve been a provider for my family. Dunno what’s worst… or best… depends on your point of view. The both situations have their pluses and minuses.

You’ve got a lot of responsibilities while sitting at home doing “nothing” just cooking, cleaning, washing, ironing, shopping… When your family members come home, and it can be at different times of a day, a hot meal is to be on the table, and “provider” is to have a fresh shirt to put on every morning, and the baby-girl is to have her plaits done before leaving to school, and so on, never ending or beginning… Never mind that you don’t have your own money, hence are dependent on someone’s good will. Or lack of such.

As a woman and a provider, you are out there in the wild, hunting your “mammoths” (and in this fair Kingdom of Sweden women get 86 % of men’s salary, ceteris paribus), and when returning home, you still have a lot of “nothing” to do: the very same cooking, cleaning, washing… And you don’t see your child grow-up. And you have no time for your spouse. But you have your own money!

Sometimes I look at birds: one is sitting on eggs doing nothing else, while the other provides. If they start to argue about what role is more appropriate and important, and who’s supposed to do what, their kids wouldn’t have a chance to survive.

But as to stereotypes… I’m old-fashioned and would prefer to stay at home and feed the fire, while my provider is out there hunting mammoths for the family… But it’s, of course, kind of unfounded dreams…


totally agree!cheers
May 25, 2009 8:20 AM CST ARE MEN DIFFERENT?
Sommerauer71
Sommerauer71Sommerauer71Salzburg, Austria133 Threads 4 Polls 12,414 Posts
dragonfly88: totally agree!


Great post isn't it DF?

I loved it.
May 25, 2009 8:22 AM CST ARE MEN DIFFERENT?
Sommerauer71: Great post isn't it DF?

I loved it.


yes... very good

I want to be a mummyyay
May 25, 2009 9:49 AM CST ARE MEN DIFFERENT?
symbolistartist
symbolistartistsymbolistartistHanko, Southern Finland Finland10 Threads 761 Posts
dragonfly88: yes... very good

I want to be a mummy

Thank god I'm past the age when this was an issue. Now all I have to do is deal with younger men who think I might still squeeze out a little brat for him and spend the rest of my years taking care of it until it sails into the world on its own. On second thought, I am ditching all young men on grounds of wanting to spread their seed around in an overpopulated world... very mad
May 25, 2009 3:39 PM CST ARE MEN DIFFERENT?
HardStep
HardStepHardStepmalta, Xlokk Malta8 Threads 118 Posts
ghost007: OK i was asked to start a thread ...so by popular demands here goes .......I have often felt that it must be tough for men who find themselves in a position where they are the sole provider of bread in a family and somewhat scary i would have thought to have 2,3,4 people relying on you ...i mean what if something happens and you lose your job ???? do men feel like this?????do they ever feel that they are stereotypes and society expects them to fulfill the role of main provider?????how many men would like a situation where their partner makes a very good salary and they can stay home .....read..do charity work....cook.......spend time with the kids etc........?????




It would be nice but would not full fill me....dunno
May 26, 2009 4:09 AM CST ARE MEN DIFFERENT?
MARTI
MARTIMARTImsida, Majjistral Malta44 Threads 2,726 Posts
Hey ghostwave
Of course "MEN ARE DIFFERENT"....that's why we love and adore them, innit..hope you're ok girl..bouquet
May 26, 2009 7:43 AM CST ARE MEN DIFFERENT?
Fallingman
FallingmanFallingmanDublin, Ireland29 Threads 12 Polls 11,436 Posts
I'm certainly different! laugh
May 26, 2009 8:01 AM CST ARE MEN DIFFERENT?
sasseez
sasseezsasseezlakes entrance, Victoria Australia1 Threads 3,150 Posts
Fallingman: I'm certainly different!
thats what they all say laugh
May 26, 2009 8:08 AM CST ARE MEN DIFFERENT?
Sommerauer71
Sommerauer71Sommerauer71Salzburg, Austria133 Threads 4 Polls 12,414 Posts
Fallingman: I'm certainly different!


You are?

ANd here was me thinking all men were like us girlies...

Now, I know where I have been going wrong in expecting them to understand us.

And it is just okay not to understand us and have some bloody good fun trying to.
May 26, 2009 8:15 AM CST ARE MEN DIFFERENT?
symbolistartist
symbolistartistsymbolistartistHanko, Southern Finland Finland10 Threads 761 Posts
sasseez: thats what they all say

rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing couldn't be more true.
May 26, 2009 8:15 AM CST ARE MEN DIFFERENT?
Fallingman
FallingmanFallingmanDublin, Ireland29 Threads 12 Polls 11,436 Posts
sasseez: thats what they all say


but I am telling the truth! laugh
May 26, 2009 8:15 AM CST ARE MEN DIFFERENT?
Fallingman
FallingmanFallingmanDublin, Ireland29 Threads 12 Polls 11,436 Posts
Sommerauer71: You are?

ANd here was me thinking all men were like us girlies...

Now, I know where I have been going wrong in expecting them to understand us.

And it is just okay not to understand us and have some bloody good fun trying to.


Glad to see you have recognised the error of your ways! laugh
May 26, 2009 8:17 AM CST ARE MEN DIFFERENT?
symbolistartist
symbolistartistsymbolistartistHanko, Southern Finland Finland10 Threads 761 Posts
Ok now this is my pet question; why do women have to go through so much trouble to try and understand men while men don't seem to do much in order to understand women? This in my opinion might even define true equality! cool
May 26, 2009 8:18 AM CST ARE MEN DIFFERENT?
symbolistartist
symbolistartistsymbolistartistHanko, Southern Finland Finland10 Threads 761 Posts
Fallingman: but I am telling the truth!

Prove it please! We will need some real scientific, empirical proof in order to be convinced. Ok? tongue
May 26, 2009 8:19 AM CST ARE MEN DIFFERENT?
symbolistartist
symbolistartistsymbolistartistHanko, Southern Finland Finland10 Threads 761 Posts
Besides... truth is relative to the subject... sigh
May 26, 2009 8:27 AM CST ARE MEN DIFFERENT?
guiriman
guirimanguirimansouth of milan, Lombardy Italy53 Threads 6 Polls 2,128 Posts
symbolistartist: Ok now this is my pet question; why do women have to go through so much trouble to try and understand men while men don't seem to do much in order to understand women? This in my opinion might even define true equality!


because in life one has to relunctantly resign to the inutility of striving for the ultimately unstrivable ... or go nuts .. professor
May 26, 2009 8:27 AM CST ARE MEN DIFFERENT?
Sommerauer71
Sommerauer71Sommerauer71Salzburg, Austria133 Threads 4 Polls 12,414 Posts
Fallingman: Glad to see you have recognised the error of your ways!


To err is human, FM.

I only just worked out that I am human.

Oh I have, I have indeed and life is suddenly simpler. I have unburdened myself from worrying about why I will never understand men.

I just love em...

Much easier.
May 26, 2009 8:35 AM CST ARE MEN DIFFERENT?
symbolistartist
symbolistartistsymbolistartistHanko, Southern Finland Finland10 Threads 761 Posts
guiriman: because in life one has to relunctantly resign to the inutility of striving for the ultimately unstrivable ... or go nuts ..

Poor you, I can see you're on the brink of despair... take it easy and enjoy the sun grin
May 26, 2009 8:49 AM CST ARE MEN DIFFERENT?
RayfromUSA
RayfromUSARayfromUSAvienne, Rhone-Alpes France86 Threads 29 Polls 6,611 Posts
ghost007: I have often felt that it must be tough for men who find themselves in a position where they are the sole provider of bread in a family and somewhat scary i would have thought to have 2,3,4 people relying on you ...i mean what if something happens and you lose your job ???? do men feel like this?


Well, society doesn't really have that stereotype any more.

Nowadays I'd say the excess burden is on the women who work at a job and are still often expected to do most of the housework and parenting.

But I was the sole provider for my family for many years and yes it is a serious responsibility. You can't take it lightly. And you have to be a lot more careful concerning decisions.

Personally I think society works better when only the men work.
It puts parenting back in the hands of the parents and it slows down the overproductivity that leads to depressions.

But it has to be universal (or nearly so).
If most households have 2 salaries, its much harder to feed and house a family with only one salarie.
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