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Jun 3, 2009 7:12 PM CST church ?
Kattsrose
KattsroseKattsroseKind of near Portsmouth, NH, New Hampshire USA52 Threads 4 Polls 911 Posts
trish123: Anger, this is nothing............ if you detect anger in my words it is simply a personal issue, an introspective - as i said earlier, I was once preparing to become a nun.........


Going back to the example of State run gambling.

I’ve seen kids with jackets that were held together with duct tape and wearing nasty hand me down boots get out of their parents cars that had hundreds if not thousands of dollars worth of losing scratch tickets on the floor.

These kids were going without because their parents thought they were going to get rich playing games where to odds were against them. The lottery is even worse than the scratch tickets. The odds of getting struck by lightning are better than the odds of winning the big prize.

I don’t get angry at people for buying tickets though. It’s their mistake to make. If I feel a child is being neglected. I’m a mandated reporter and by law I have to let the administration know about it and we have to report the suspicions to Social Services.

I don’t know what happened to you. It sounds like it was pretty bad and very painful. I am sorry for the suffering that you were subjected to.

All I really want from you is the same respect for the beliefs of others that you want and are entitled to.
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Jun 3, 2009 7:12 PM CST church ?
steelman73
steelman73steelman73perth, Tayside, Scotland UK18 Threads 3 Polls 134 Posts
ok hes not an alien so where has he been the worlds in a far worst state now than 2000 years ago billons more people lots more sins yet hes not here ah but you can all feel him he guides you all but religion has caused more wars the catholic church sucked you all in commited more murders and crime than the mafia and have billions more money than them but you hang on every word the say thats fine your choice but dont say i ask stupid? just because im a sceptic i have hundreds of ? the reason i ask them its the way you learn about people and why they are the persons they are from this backward planet that your god created in 7 days mby should have took a bit longer and wed all be like you devil
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Jun 3, 2009 7:17 PM CST church ?
steelman73
steelman73steelman73perth, Tayside, Scotland UK18 Threads 3 Polls 134 Posts
nicely put katt but is respect not a two way thing ive respected what they have said but to them im the devil his selfdevil laugh
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Jun 3, 2009 7:19 PM CST church ?
Kattsrose
KattsroseKattsroseKind of near Portsmouth, NH, New Hampshire USA52 Threads 4 Polls 911 Posts
steelman73: ok hes not an alien so where has he been the worlds in a far worst state now than 2000 years ago billons more people lots more sins yet hes not here ah but you can all feel him he guides you all but religion has caused more wars the catholic church sucked you all in commited more murders and crime than the mafia and have billions more money than them but you hang on every word the say thats fine your choice but dont say i ask stupid? just because im a sceptic i have hundreds of ? the reason i ask them its the way you learn about people and why they are the persons they are from this backward planet that your god created in 7 days mby should have took a bit longer and wed all be like you



My understanding is most of the Bible stories are allegorical.
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Jun 3, 2009 7:26 PM CST church ?
Kattsrose
KattsroseKattsroseKind of near Portsmouth, NH, New Hampshire USA52 Threads 4 Polls 911 Posts
steelman73: nicely put katt but is respect not a two way thing ive respected what they have said but to them im the devil his self


Most people don’t learn respect any more. When I was student teaching the teacher I was working under was very strict about please and thank you and waiting your turn.

I got more than a few “What’s the magic Word?” thrown at me when I would forget to say please to one of the kids.

The younger teachers made fun of her but she got results because respect was a two way street.
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Jun 3, 2009 7:30 PM CST church ?
trish123
trish123trish123Macclesfield, Cheshire, England UK177 Threads 4 Polls 13,724 Posts
Kattsrose: Going back to the example of State run gambling.

I’ve seen kids with jackets that were held together with duct tape and wearing nasty hand me down boots get out of their parents cars that had hundreds if not thousands of dollars worth of losing scratch tickets on the floor.

These kids were going without because their parents thought they were going to get rich playing games where to odds were against them. The lottery is even worse than the scratch tickets. The odds of getting struck by lightning are better than the odds of winning the big prize.

I don’t get angry at people for buying tickets though. It’s their mistake to make. If I feel a child is being neglected. I’m a mandated reporter and by law I have to let the administration know about it and we have to report the suspicions to Social Services.

I don’t know what happened to you. It sounds like it was pretty bad and very painful. I am sorry for the suffering that you were subjected to.

All I really want from you is the same respect for the beliefs of others that you want and are entitled to.


No you dont - you want to be able to subjectivise my anger into a little box just like you have your own - well it aint gonna happen, your expriences are yours and mine are mine and I dont have much sympathy - I do have the respect you speak of and the fact that you cant see it is not my problem so please dont put your inability to comprehend down to a lack of anything in me - ok....... it isnt my lack
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Jun 3, 2009 7:38 PM CST church ?
Kattsrose
KattsroseKattsroseKind of near Portsmouth, NH, New Hampshire USA52 Threads 4 Polls 911 Posts
trish123: No you dont - you want to be able to subjectivise my anger into a little box just like you have your own - well it aint gonna happen, your expriences are yours and mine are mine and I dont have much sympathy - I do have the respect you speak of and the fact that you cant see it is not my problem so please dont put your inability to comprehend down to a lack of anything in me - ok....... it isnt my lack


Sorry I offended you by trying to treat you like a human being.
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Jun 3, 2009 7:41 PM CST church ?
tainogirl
tainogirltainogirlTrincity,West Indies,, Trinidad and Tobago215 Threads 2 Polls 3,777 Posts
steelman73: what would happen if it was proved that our lives started on another planet and their were aliens and the man they say was jesus was actually a space traveller


I always find these threads amusing because they go basically - nowhere. Why? Because when these type of questions are asked those that believe will clutch tighter to there beliefs and those who don't will point to what the believers say and say "See now that's why I don't believe" "How about giving me some hard proof." Me I like to keep it real SIMPLE. Its not about science, aliens, church,education, etc...I get to see my HARD PROOF 24/7/365 days of the year. She came in a very small parcel but she has taught me more about life, hope, faith, God in the few short years(and she's only three) she has been here than anything else. Its hard not to have belief in something greater after seeing that face. And that quite frankly is good enough for me.wine
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Jun 3, 2009 7:48 PM CST church ?
trish123
trish123trish123Macclesfield, Cheshire, England UK177 Threads 4 Polls 13,724 Posts
Kattsrose: Sorry I offended you by trying to treat you like a human being.


You offended me by judging me by your rules and negating mine - i forgive you though - even without christianity - imagine that rolling on the floor laughing
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Jun 3, 2009 7:51 PM CST church ?
Kattsrose
KattsroseKattsroseKind of near Portsmouth, NH, New Hampshire USA52 Threads 4 Polls 911 Posts
tainogirl: I always find these threads amusing because they go basically - nowhere. Why? Because when these type of questions are asked those that believe will clutch tighter to there beliefs and those who don't will point to what the believers say and say "See now that's why I don't believe" "How about giving me some hard proof." Me I like to keep it real SIMPLE. Its not about science, aliens, church,education, etc...I get to see my HARD PROOF 24/7/365 days of the year. She came in a very small parcel but she has taught me more about life, hope, faith, God in the few short years(and she's only three) she has been here than anything else. Its hard not to have belief in something greater after seeing that face. And that quite frankly is good enough for me.


Very cool.
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Jun 3, 2009 7:52 PM CST church ?
Kattsrose
KattsroseKattsroseKind of near Portsmouth, NH, New Hampshire USA52 Threads 4 Polls 911 Posts
trish123: You offended me by judging me by your rules and negating mine - i forgive you though - even without christianity - imagine that


I'm not playing.

Please find someone else if you are looking for a fight.

Thanks.

wave
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Jun 3, 2009 7:55 PM CST church ?
trish123
trish123trish123Macclesfield, Cheshire, England UK177 Threads 4 Polls 13,724 Posts
Kattsrose: I'm not playing.

Please find someone else if you are looking for a fight.

Thanks.


I didnt ask you to respond to my posts, if you are speaking of anybody looking for somebody to fight with please dont look here - I have been a member of this site for a long time and its known I neither suffer fools gladly not seek fighs.......
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Jun 3, 2009 7:59 PM CST church ?
wonderworker
wonderworkerwonderworkercosby, Tennessee USA201 Threads 2 Polls 1,883 Posts
When I was a kid there were four churches on the square.At about age 11 Mom got to worrying about my religious instruction.I was made to attend a Sunday School for an hour.I could choose for myself which.
I tried them all once:Methodist,Baptist,Episcopaland Congregationalist.
Then I just sat in the park with the real squirrels for an hour and went home...
cool
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Jun 3, 2009 8:09 PM CST church ?
trish123
trish123trish123Macclesfield, Cheshire, England UK177 Threads 4 Polls 13,724 Posts
wonderworker: When I was a kid there were four churches on the square.At about age 11 Mom got to worrying about my religious instruction.I was made to attend a Sunday School for an hour.I could choose for myself which.
I tried them all once:Methodist,Baptist,Episcopaland Congregationalist.
Then I just sat in the park with the real squirrels for an hour and went home...


Oh you were so lucky, I had it from day one..... conversing
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Jun 3, 2009 10:57 PM CST church ?
norslyman
norslymannorslymanMinneapolis, Minnesota USA21 Threads 151 Posts
Watch for a lot more of this in the future. I've been saying for some time now that this theory is going to be promoted.



History Channel Special Distorts Interviews to Promote "Alien Agenda"

Tuesday January 28, the History Channel premiered "UFOs in the Bible," a program featuring several ufologists, authors and ministers. All apparently argued that most of the supernatural occurrences in the Bible represent the activity of alien spacecraft, citing Ezekiel’s wheel, Elijah’s ascension and Moses’ "fire by night" as primary examples. The program’s opening dialog even suggests that God himself is merely an advanced extra-terrestrial being, rather than supernatural deity. However, at least two of those appearing on the program have come forth to state publicly that the program deliberately misrepresented their views. Rather than airing their actual responses to the proposed ideas, both feel that they were wrongfully depicted as affirming these theories.
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Jun 4, 2009 4:06 AM CST church ?
norslyman: Watch for a lot more of this in the future. I've been saying for some time now that this theory is going to be promoted.
---------------------------------------------------History Channel Special Distorts Interviews to Promote "Alien Agenda"

Tuesday January 28, the History Channel premiered "UFOs in the Bible," a program featuring several ufologists, authors and ministers. All apparently argued that most of the supernatural occurrences in the Bible represent the activity of alien spacecraft, citing Ezekiel’s wheel, Elijah’s ascension and Moses’ "fire by night" as primary examples. The program’s opening dialog even suggests that God himself is merely an advanced extra-terrestrial being, rather than supernatural deity. However, at least two of those appearing on the program have come forth to state publicly that the program deliberately misrepresented their views. Rather than airing their actual responses to the proposed ideas, both feel that they were wrongfully depicted as affirming these theories.
Any more outlandish than the "Theories" you have been propounding here?dunno grin
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Jun 4, 2009 8:18 AM CST church ?
southmiami
southmiamisouthmiamiTampa, Florida USA3 Threads 87 Posts
To all those that are non-believers I respect your thoughts because you go by what you see, what is proved, the facts, the logical events etc.
I was raised in a catholic home and as a child; you do not really capture the meaning of many things. Later I was taken to an atheist Country as a teenager and I had shortly lost my father making me loose my faith.
After that, my life was not a life; I had many difficulties living in this Country.
I have personal testimony how God can transform your life, how miracles can really happen.
You can be a good person in this life but we all are sinners. Only through God, you can be liberated.
I respect everybody out there that believes in their God, you have that right at least in this country but do not bombard hatridge towards others.
Having faith is not being weak, is having hope, believing in something with your heart.
There are people out there that have everything, are they really fulfilled??
There are others that only have there faith and are better off.
There are many dimensions out there and many questions that cannot have a final answer between believers and non-believers. It is you choice to make.
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Jun 4, 2009 11:09 AM CST church ?
steelman73
steelman73steelman73perth, Tayside, Scotland UK18 Threads 3 Polls 134 Posts
thanks all for replying it made good reading personaly i think the belivers need something in there life cause in reality they dont handle it well they need hope and guidance instead of guiding thereselves the church have done a great job in keeping the masses beliving and making billions of dollars doing it .me well when i die ill find out the truth .peace
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Jun 4, 2009 11:21 AM CST church ?
tainogirl
tainogirltainogirlTrincity,West Indies,, Trinidad and Tobago215 Threads 2 Polls 3,777 Posts
steelman73: thanks all for replying it made good reading personaly i think the belivers need something in there life(I thought they had already found that) cause in reality they dont handle it(how would you know that)? well they need hope and guidance(isn't that why they turned to religion in the first place) instead of guiding thereselves the church have done a great job in keeping the masses beliving and making billions of dollars doing(well thank God you didn't get caught eh) .me well when i die ill find out the truth(well I guess we'll all find out now won't we) .
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Jun 4, 2009 3:41 PM CST church ?
steelman73
steelman73steelman73perth, Tayside, Scotland UK18 Threads 3 Polls 134 Posts
how do i no it cause they say god guides them they need him they cant cope without his words and how did i not get caught easy i have many forms i just blend rite in devil
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