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What Recession? 400 Richest Americans Lined Their Pockets with $30 Billion
By Les Leopold AlterNet, Oct 1, 2009 Straight to the Source
It's great to know that during the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression, the wealth of the 400 richest Americans, according to Forbes, actually increased by $30 billion. Well golly, that's only a 2 percent increase, much less than the double digit returns the wealthy had grown accustomed to. But a 2 percent increase is a whole lot more than losing 40 percent of your 401k. And $30 billion is enough to provide 500,000 school teacher jobs at $60k per year.
Collectively, those 400 have $1.57 trillion in wealth. It's hard to get your mind around a number like that. The way I do it is to imagine that we were still living during the great radical Eisenhower era of the 1950s when marginal income tax rates hit 91 percent. Taxes were high back in the 1950s because people understood that constraining wild extremes of wealth would make our country stronger and prevent another depression. (Well, what did those old fogies know?)
Had we kept those high progressive taxes in place, instead of removing them, especially during the Reagan era, the Forbes 400 might each be worth "only" $100 million instead of $3.9 billion each. So let's imagine that the rest of their wealth, about $1.53 trillion, were available for the public good.
What does $1.53 trillion buy?
It's more than enough to insure the uninsured for the next twenty years or more.
It's more than enough to create a Manhattan Project to solve global warming by developing renewable energy and a green, sustainable manufacturing sector.
And here's my favorite: It's more than enough to endow every public college and university in the country so that all of our children could gain access to higher education for free, forever!
Instead, we embarked on a grand experiment to see what would happen if we deregulated finance and changed the tax code so that millionaires could turn into billionaires. And even after that experiment failed in the most spectacular way, our system seems trapped into staying on the same deregulated path.
Instead of free higher education, health care and a sustainable economy, we got a fantasy finance boom and bust on Wall Street which crashed the real economy. We have our 400 billionaires, and we have 29 million unemployed and underemployed Americans. We have an infrastructure in shambles. We have an environment in crisis. We have a health care system that would make Rube Goldberg proud. And we have the worst income distribution since 1929.
rich people will always be hated as long as they don't pay their "due" share to the less privileged and as long as they think that "they have earned it". these rich MOFO(excuse my language) never understand that they have earned their "riches" because some people are not as greedy as them
Not sure what to comment about. This is what the people voted for, this is what they got. Privatization of governmental functions, hands-off policies... did anyone expect anything else?
Scubadiva: Not sure what to comment about. This is what the people voted for, this is what they got. Privatization of governmental functions, hands-off policies... did anyone expect anything else?
ya..i expected totally something else. i expected that you would show up here in a gorgeous dress with lipstic on your lips
In response to: What Recession? 400 Richest Americans Lined Their Pockets with $30 BillionBy Les Leopold AlterNet, Oct 1, 2009 Straight to the Source It's great to know that during the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression, the wealth of the 400 richest Americans, according to Forbes, actually increased by $30 billion. Well golly, that's only a 2 percent increase, much less than the double digit returns the wealthy had grown accustomed to. But a 2 percent increase is a whole lot more than losing 40 percent of your 401k. And $30 billion is enough to provide 500,000 school teacher jobs at $60k per year.
Collectively, those 400 have $1.57 trillion in wealth. It's hard to get your mind around a number like that. The way I do it is to imagine that we were still living during the great radical Eisenhower era of the 1950s when marginal income tax rates hit 91 percent. Taxes were high back in the 1950s because people understood that constraining wild extremes of wealth would make our country stronger and prevent another depression. (Well, what did those old fogies know?)
Had we kept those high progressive taxes in place, instead of removing them, especially during the Reagan era, the Forbes 400 might each be worth "only" $100 million instead of $3.9 billion each. So let's imagine that the rest of their wealth, about $1.53 trillion, were available for the public good.
What does $1.53 trillion buy?
It's more than enough to insure the uninsured for the next twenty years or more.
It's more than enough to create a Manhattan Project to solve global warming by developing renewable energy and a green, sustainable manufacturing sector.
And here's my favorite: It's more than enough to endow every public college and university in the country so that all of our children could gain access to higher education for free, forever!
Instead, we embarked on a grand experiment to see what would happen if we deregulated finance and changed the tax code so that millionaires could turn into billionaires. And even after that experiment failed in the most spectacular way, our system seems trapped into staying on the same deregulated path.
Instead of free higher education, health care and a sustainable economy, we got a fantasy finance boom and bust on Wall Street which crashed the real economy. We have our 400 billionaires, and we have 29 million unemployed and underemployed Americans. We have an infrastructure in shambles. We have an environment in crisis. We have a health care system that would make Rube Goldberg proud. And we have the worst income distribution since 1929.
HL,
I am not sure I understand the point here. Is Mr. Leopold suggesting that we steal from the rich and give to the poor? It seems to me that was tried in Sherwood Forest. Did it work?
hey relax I was sleeping ! sorry some of us are beat UP pretty badly and have to rest alot !
OK first of NICE article,......
I do agree, and its been said many times that there are some really Smart people rolling the dice and the rest of us just dance to the music. YES,...... the RICH get more and we get LESS !
UMMMM,.......... That's why they are Rich in the 1st place,......
But its NOT like this is new to us all, thats why we encourage OUR children to pay attention in History Class !
anyway, they can take your money,mine everyones, but your still Cute !
HealthyLivingOPSomewhere In, Tennessee USA4,775 posts
SonofDavid: HL,
I am not sure I understand the point here. Is Mr. Leopold suggesting that we steal from the rich and give to the poor? It seems to me that was tried in Sherwood Forest. Did it work?
Perhaps there are several points of concern here?
One of interest to me is the Tax BREAKS which are being given to these extremely rich entities. You know, the Tax CUTS for them?
Taxes subsidize and fund government programs designed to help the poor and needy.
If we quit giving them the big tax cuts and take their tax dollars to put to good use for our underfunded programs, it could help so many!
HealthyLivingOPSomewhere In, Tennessee USA4,775 posts
SonofDavid: HL,
I am not sure I understand the point here. Is Mr. Leopold suggesting that we steal from the rich and give to the poor? It seems to me that was tried in Sherwood Forest. Did it work?
I am all in favor of of rich folks helping poor folks. In fact that's what Jesus taught when he told the rich ruler to sell all he had and give to the poor. I don't think Jesus was a capitalist. But, I do not believe the government should become a collective robbing hood to accomplish that. If rich people want to be greedy and selfish, they have a right to be in this stupid capitalistic system. What rich people need are changed hearts through Christ.
SonofDavid: I am all in favor of of rich folks helping poor folks. In fact that's what Jesus taught when he told the rich ruler to sell all he had and give to the poor. I don't think Jesus was a capitalist. But, I do not believe the government should become a collective robbing hood to accomplish that. If rich people want to be greedy and selfish, they have a right to be in this stupid capitalistic system. What rich people need are changed hearts through Christ.
Problem is, it's not just the "rich" that are being fleeced. Many are struggling to pay bills while the tax man takes obscenely large chunks from their income to pay the guy who doesn't work while watching Oprah, who btw also wants them to pay for his health insurance (as he munches chedder cheese potato chips). The only ones who like this "helping" arrangement are people with very low income BECAUSE THEY DON'T WORK, pay little taxes (if any), and really believe we owe them a living. They even complain that they aren't "given" enough money.
All the others have to pay - the poor working force - out of their ever shrinking income.
HealthyLivingOPSomewhere In, Tennessee USA4,775 posts
calmheartseeks: You wouldn't if it was YOUR money he was robbing.
Problem is, it's not just the "rich" that are being fleeced. Many are struggling to pay bills while the tax man takes obscenely large chunks from their income to pay the guy who doesn't work while watching Oprah, who btw also wants them to pay for his health insurance (as he munches chedder cheese potato chips). The only ones who like this "helping" arrangement are people with very low income BECAUSE THEY DON'T WORK, pay little taxes (if any), and really believe we owe them a living. They even complain that they aren't "given" enough money.
All the others have to pay - the poor working force - out of their ever shrinking income.
Watch out, Robin's coming to your 'hood!
I have no money to be robbed, as I make what I need to get by on, then use the rest to help the poor in my community. I pay electric bills, water bills, give groceries and clothing to those less fortunate.
If everyone did this, the world would be a better place.
I am really surprised by your answer here!!!
As a Christian Nation in its beginning, this is why welfare was established in our government. It is the church's obligation to heal the sick, feed the hungry, clothe the naked, give the thirsty something to drink and take in the poor wandering stranger. Isaiah 58.
Heal the sick... Health Care!
The government took upon itself, the work of the church as our founding fathers thought this was the right thing to do in establishing a Godly Nation. "One Nation Under God, Indivisable, with Liberty and Justice for ALL".
How times have changed and the hearts of the American people along with the times!!!
Don't you think that if the rich paid their fair share of taxes, the middle class even would benefit from it?
If times get very hard and the rich are nearby and not doing anything to help their neighbors, YES, I would steal from them and give it to the poor!!!
Got a problem with that???
Only God can deal with your heart. It's an issue of the heart and the selfishness therein.
If everything we own belongs to God and not ourselves, what is it to you what HE decides to do with what you have in your storehouse? It's HIS, he can do what HE wants to with it, if you would only LET GO!! Maybe if you gave some of it away, there would be room in your storehouse to contain the BIG Blessing He wants to GIVE to YOU!!!
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By Les Leopold
AlterNet, Oct 1, 2009
Straight to the Source
It's great to know that during the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression, the wealth of the 400 richest Americans, according to Forbes, actually increased by $30 billion. Well golly, that's only a 2 percent increase, much less than the double digit returns the wealthy had grown accustomed to. But a 2 percent increase is a whole lot more than losing 40 percent of your 401k. And $30 billion is enough to provide 500,000 school teacher jobs at $60k per year.
Collectively, those 400 have $1.57 trillion in wealth. It's hard to get your mind around a number like that. The way I do it is to imagine that we were still living during the great radical Eisenhower era of the 1950s when marginal income tax rates hit 91 percent. Taxes were high back in the 1950s because people understood that constraining wild extremes of wealth would make our country stronger and prevent another depression. (Well, what did those old fogies know?)
Had we kept those high progressive taxes in place, instead of removing them, especially during the Reagan era, the Forbes 400 might each be worth "only" $100 million instead of $3.9 billion each. So let's imagine that the rest of their wealth, about $1.53 trillion, were available for the public good.
What does $1.53 trillion buy?
It's more than enough to insure the uninsured for the next twenty years or more.
It's more than enough to create a Manhattan Project to solve global warming by developing renewable energy and a green, sustainable manufacturing sector.
And here's my favorite: It's more than enough to endow every public college and university in the country so that all of our children could gain access to higher education for free, forever!
Instead, we embarked on a grand experiment to see what would happen if we deregulated finance and changed the tax code so that millionaires could turn into billionaires. And even after that experiment failed in the most spectacular way, our system seems trapped into staying on the same deregulated path.
Instead of free higher education, health care and a sustainable economy, we got a fantasy finance boom and bust on Wall Street which crashed the real economy. We have our 400 billionaires, and we have 29 million unemployed and underemployed Americans. We have an infrastructure in shambles. We have an environment in crisis. We have a health care system that would make Rube Goldberg proud. And we have the worst income distribution since 1929.