The man who didn't believe in love. ( Archived) (8)

Jul 31, 2006 11:44 AM CST The man who didn't believe in love.
murasakiheart
murasakiheartmurasakiheartSprings, Florida USA7 Threads 343 Posts
"What you find is a war of control to see who will manipulate whom. Who will be the provider, and who will have the addiction? You find that a few months later, the respect they swear to have for each other is gone. You can see the resentment, the emotional poison, how they hurt each other, little by little, and it grows and grows, until they don't know when the love stops. They stay together because they are afraid to be alone, afraid of the opinions and judgements of others, and also afraid of their own judgements and opinions. But where is the love?"

He used to claim that he saw many old couples that had lived together thirty years, forty years, fifty years, and they were so proud to have lived together all those years. But when they talked about their relationship, what they said was, "We survived the matrimony." That means one of them surrendered to the other; at a certain time, she gave up and decided to endure the suffering. The one with the strongest will and less need won the war, but where is that flame they call love? They treat each other like a possession. "She is mine." "He is mine."

The man went on and on about all the reasons why he believed love doesn't exist, and he told others, "I have done all that already. I will no longer allow anyone to manipulate my mind and control my life in the name of love." His arguments were quite logical, and he convinced many people by all his words. "Love doesn't exist."

Then one day this man was walking in a park, and there on a bench was a beautiful lady who was crying. When he saw her crying, he felt curiosity. Sitting beside her, he asked if he could help her. He asked why she was crying. You can imagine his surprise when she told him she was crying because love doesn't exist. He said, "This is amazing---a woman who believes that love doesn't exist!" Of course, he wanted to know more about her.
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Jul 31, 2006 11:45 AM CST The man who didn't believe in love.
murasakiheart
murasakiheartmurasakiheartSprings, Florida USA7 Threads 343 Posts
"Why do you say that love doesn't exist?" he asked.

"Well, it's a long story," she replied. "I married when I was very young, with all the love, all these illusions, full of hope that I would share my life with this man. We swore to each other our loyalty, respect, and honor, and we created a family. But soon everything changed. I was the devoted wife who took care of the children and the home. My husband continued to develop his career, and his success and image outside of home was more important to him than our family. He lost respect for me, and I lost respect for him. We hurt each other, and at a certain point I discovered that I didn't love him and he didn't love me either.

"But the children needed a father, and that was my excuse to stay and to do whatever I could to support him. Now the children are grown and they have left. I no longer have any excuse to stay with him. There's no respect, there's no kindness. I know that even if I find someone else, it's going to be the same, because love doesn't exist. There is no sense to look around for something that doesn't exist. That is why I am crying."

Understanding her very well, he embraced her and said, "You are right; love doesn't exist. We look for love, we open our heart and we become vulnerable, just to find selfishness. That hurts us even if we don't think we will be hurt. It doesn't matter how many relationships we have; the same thing happens again and again. Why even search for love any longer?"

They were so much alike, and they became the best friends ever. It was a wonderful relationship. They respected each other, and they never put each other down. With every step they took together, they were happy. There was no envy or jealousy, there was no control, there was no possessiveness. The relationship kept growing and growing. They loved to be together, because when they were together they had a lot of fun. When they were not together, they missed each other.

One day when the man was out of town, he had the weirdest idea. He was thinking, "Hmm...maybe what I feel for her is love. But this is so different from what I have ever felt before. It's not what the poets say it is, it's not what religions says, because I am not responsible for her. I don't take anything from her; I don't have the need for her to take care of me; I don't need to blame her for my difficulties or take my dramas to her. We have the best time together; we enjoy each other. I respect the way she thinks, the way she feels. She doesn't embarass me; she doesn't bother me at all. I don't feel jealous when she's with other people; I don't feel envy when she is successful. Perhaps love does exist, but it's not what everyone thinks love is."
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Jul 31, 2006 11:45 AM CST The man who didn't believe in love.
murasakiheart
murasakiheartmurasakiheartSprings, Florida USA7 Threads 343 Posts
He could hardly wait to go back home and talk to her, to let her know about his weird idea. As soon as he started talking, she said, "I know exactly what you are talking about. I had the same idea long ago, but I didn't want to share it with you because I know you don't believe in love. Perhaps love does exist, but it isn't what we thought it was." They decided to become lovers and to live together, and it was amazing that things didn't change. They still respected each other, they were still supportive of each other, and the love grew more and more. Even the simplest things made their hearts sing with love because they were so happy.


"The man's heart was so full with all the love he felt that one night a great miracle happened. He was looking at the stars and he found the most beautiful one, and his love was so big that the star started coming down from the sky and soon that star was in his hands. Then a second miracle happened, and his soul merged with that star. He was intensely happy, and he could hardly wait to go to the woman and put that star in her hands to prove his love for her. As soon as he put the star in her hands, she felt a moment of doubt. This love was overwhelming, and in that moment, the star fell from her hands and broke in a million little pieces.

Now there is an old man walking around the world swearing that love doesn't exist. And there is a beautiful old woman at home waiting for a man, shedding a tear for a paradise that once she had in her hands, but for one moment of doubt, she let it go. This is the story about the man who didn't believe in love.

Who made the mistake? Do you want to guess what went wrong? The mistake was on the man's part in thinking he could give the woman his happiness. The star was his happiness, and his mistake was to put his happiness in her hands. Happiness never comes from outside of us. He was happy because of the love coming out of him; she was happy because of the love coming out of her. But as soon as he made her responsible for his happiness, she broke the star because she could not be responsible for his happiness.

No matter how much the woman loved him, she could never make him happy because she could never know what he had in his mind. She could never know what his expectations were, because she could not know his dreams.

If you take your happiness and put it in someone's hands, sooner or later, she is going to break it. If you give your happiness to someone else, she can always take it away. Then if happiness can only come from inside of you and is the result of your love, you are responsible for your happiness. We can never make anyone responsible for our own happiness, but when we go to the church to get married, the first thing we do is exchange rings. We put our star in each other's hands, expecting that she is going to make you happy, and you are going to make her happy. It doesn't matter how much you love someone, you are never going to be what that person wants you to be.

That is the mistake most of us make right from the beginning. We base our happiness on our partner, and it doesn't work that way. We make all those promises that we cannot keep, and we set ourselves up to fail."
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Jul 31, 2006 12:04 PM CST The man who didn't believe in love.
Clearskiez80
Clearskiez80Clearskiez8022 Threads 355 Posts
dancing Where is the love you said you'd give to me,
as soon as you were free, will it ever be
wher is the looooooove
dancing

just kidding, cool story, very insightful
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Jul 31, 2006 12:10 PM CST The man who didn't believe in love.
catwm
catwmcatwmSomewhere in the middle, Florida USA48 Threads 6,683 Posts
Nice story and thank you for taking the time to share it with me.



Love, though necessary for life, health and growth is the most complicated of things.

I think that before a person can be successful at achieving love in a relationship, it is necessary for us to understand how they work. Many times not only do we deny that love exists, but we are so afraid of it, we do not want to put the effort into making it work.

We need to broaden our understanding of how relationships work, what they mean to us, and how what we do and believe can enhance or destroy them.

We must be willing to put in the energy and take the time to understand why we have failed relationships in the past and also what makes the ones we see work.

Too many of us have experienced the cost of these lackadaisical approaches in terms of tears, confusion and guilt in failed past relationships.
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Jul 31, 2006 12:20 PM CST The man who didn't believe in love.
native_grl38
native_grl38native_grl38Belleville, Canada10 Threads 4,332 Posts
So true and very good lesson and yes the patterns of all dysfunctional relationships!

It's so easy to see where we go wrong alot of the time from this story!

conversing

Thanx for sharing it!
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Jul 31, 2006 12:31 PM CST The man who didn't believe in love.
murasakiheart
murasakiheartmurasakiheartSprings, Florida USA7 Threads 343 Posts
Thank you for reading.

I must confess I am afraid to love because even though I know what it takes to keep the love I feel alive, it doesn't depend in just me. He needs to understand that the love I give out toward him is free, he doesn’t need to ask for it. I don't need to follow a pattern or schedule not does he. I know what to do, when and how. What I give out I want it back not because I demand it but just because it makes him happy to do so. That is why I have being saying, “I’m looking for an equal partner, a two way street relationship”
For what I have seen it is very difficult to find what and who I’m looking for, not many understand the meaning of love.
I don’t want to survive the matrimony I want to live and enjoy it every minute of it!
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Jul 31, 2006 8:39 PM CST The man who didn't believe in love.
Unionjoe
UnionjoeUnionjoeMedia, Pennsylvania USA48 Threads 760 Posts
This well illustrates the problems many of us experience in our search for what we consider love. Thank you, murasakiheart, for sharing this with us. To often we place our hopes and dreams for our love and for our future in our life partner. We even tell our respective loved ones that we are not complete without them, or we do not feel like life is worth living without them. Your illustration makes a very dramatic point, one which I will think over often.

I believe I have made this mistake myself. And I get the feeling that women can identify this in men far better than men can identify it in themselves. Either way, I will think about this and try to identify these patterns within myself from now on.

I hope you do find love. I hope we all do. Love is something that I believe all humans deserve. But we must first love ourself, and then we are better able to share that love with another.

Best wishes, Joe.
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