Moscow Mayor Promises a Winter Without Snow ( Archived) (27)

Oct 17, 2009 11:42 AM CST Moscow Mayor Promises a Winter Without Snow
HealthyLiving
HealthyLivingHealthyLivingSomewhere In, Tennessee USA527 Threads 2 Polls 4,775 Posts
By SIMON SHUSTER / MOSCOW Simon Shuster / Moscow – 1 hr 59 mins ago
Pigs still can't fly, but this winter, the mayor of Moscow promises to keep it from snowing. For just a few million dollars, the mayor's office will hire the Russian Air Force to spray a fine chemical mist over the clouds before they reach the capital, forcing them to dump their snow outside the city. Authorities say this will be a boon for Moscow, which is typically covered with a blanket of snow from November to March. Road crews won't need to constantly clear the streets, and traffic - and quality of life - will undoubtedly improve.


The idea came from Mayor Yury Luzhkov, who is no stranger to playing God. In 2002, he spearheaded a project to reverse the flow of the vast River Ob through Siberia to help irrigate the country's parched Central Asian neighbors. Although that idea hasn't exactly turned out as planned - scientists have said it's not feasible - this time, Luzhkov says, there's no way he can fail. (See TIME's photo-essay "Vladimir Putin: Action Figure.")


Controlling the weather in Moscow is nothing new, he says. Ahead of the two main holidays celebrated in the city each year - Victory Day in May and City Day in September - the often cash-strapped air force is paid to make sure that it doesn't, well, rain on the parades. With a city budget of $40 billion a year (larger than New York City's budget), Moscow can easily afford the $2-3 million price tag to keep the skies blue as spectators watch the tanks and rocket launchers roll along Red Square. Now there's a new challenge for the air force: Moscow's notorious blizzards.


"You know how every year on City Day and Victory Day we create the weather?" Luzhkov asked a group of farmers outside Moscow in September, according to Russian media reports. "Well, we should do the same with the snow! Then outside Moscow there will be more moisture, a bigger harvest, while for us it won't snow as much. It will make financial sense." (See pictures of Russia celebrating Victory Day.)


The plan was unsurprisingly rubber-stamped this week by the Moscow City Council, which is dominated by Luzhkov's supporters. Then the city's Department of Housing and Public Works described how it would work. The air force will use cement powder, dry ice or silver iodide to spray the clouds from Nov. 15 to March 15 - and only to prevent "very big and serious snow" from falling on the city, said Andrei Tsybin, the head of the department. This could mean that a few flakes will manage to slip through the cracks. Tsybin estimated that the total cost of keeping the storms at bay would be $6 million this winter, roughly half the amount Moscow normally spends to clear the streets of snow.


So far the main objection to the plan has come from Moscow's suburbs, which will likely be inundated with snow if the plan goes forward. Alla Kachan, the Moscow region's ecology minister, said the proposal still needs to be assessed by environmental experts and discussed with the people living in the area before Luzhkov can enact it. "The citizens of the region have some concerns. We have received lots of messages," she told the RIA news agency. (Read TIME's 1991 article "The End of the U.S.S.R.")


With only a few weeks left before winter comes, environmentalists will have to work fast to keep Luzhkov from implementing his zaniest plan to date - and to stop the first snowflakes from wafting down to the city streets.
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Oct 17, 2009 12:41 PM CST Moscow Mayor Promises a Winter Without Snow
HealthyLiving
HealthyLivingHealthyLivingSomewhere In, Tennessee USA527 Threads 2 Polls 4,775 Posts
Did any of you know that the weather can be controlled in a way such as this?dunno
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Oct 18, 2009 11:47 AM CST Moscow Mayor Promises a Winter Without Snow
HealthyLiving
HealthyLivingHealthyLivingSomewhere In, Tennessee USA527 Threads 2 Polls 4,775 Posts
Anyone see flying pigs???dunno
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Oct 18, 2009 1:42 PM CST Moscow Mayor Promises a Winter Without Snow
alexey8
alexey8alexey8Tel Aviv, Israel10 Threads 4 Polls 1,496 Posts
laugh Moscow laugh Only in Moscow... doh
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Oct 18, 2009 2:50 PM CST Moscow Mayor Promises a Winter Without Snow
ukrainegary48
ukrainegary48ukrainegary48Donetsk, Uzbekistan63 Threads 1,113 Posts
i for one have to say this post is a personal insult to my russian culture.i just love to here people insult my russian culture but yet know nothing about russian, amazing.
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Oct 18, 2009 3:09 PM CST Moscow Mayor Promises a Winter Without Snow
ukrainegary48: i for one have to say this post is a personal insult to my russian culture.i just love to here people insult my russian culture but yet know nothing about russian, amazing.
But it is OK to insult American Culture?rolling on the floor laughing
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Oct 18, 2009 3:11 PM CST Moscow Mayor Promises a Winter Without Snow
alexey8
alexey8alexey8Tel Aviv, Israel10 Threads 4 Polls 1,496 Posts
I am Russian, I love Russia, I love Russian culture...I am not offended by any of this.

What is there to be offended about? dunno
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Oct 18, 2009 3:16 PM CST Moscow Mayor Promises a Winter Without Snow
ukrainegary48: i for one have to say this post is a personal insult to my russian culture.i just love to here people insult my russian culture but yet know nothing about russian, amazing.
You really need to grow a thicker Skin,Gary,it's getting Winter there!

Here Gary,I love that Music too!






Enjoy!
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Oct 18, 2009 3:21 PM CST Moscow Mayor Promises a Winter Without Snow
ukrainegary48
ukrainegary48ukrainegary48Donetsk, Uzbekistan63 Threads 1,113 Posts
Conrad73: You really need to grow a thicker Skin,Gary,it's getting Winter there!

Here Gary,I love that Music too!



Enjoy!
there are only a few on here who have been to Russia, know its not perfect. but i just hate to here people talk about something they don't know about. Conrad i have defend the USA on a few occasions. my skin is thick. but i have go buy rules on here. if i say the wrong think i get booted because of my past on here. so really cant say at times what i really think. to me this story suggests russian people are stupid. that's why i,m insulted.
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Oct 18, 2009 3:23 PM CST Moscow Mayor Promises a Winter Without Snow
alexey8
alexey8alexey8Tel Aviv, Israel10 Threads 4 Polls 1,496 Posts
Conrad73: You really need to grow a thicker Skin,Gary,it's getting Winter there!

Here Gary,I love that Music too!



Enjoy!


KALINKA! banana laugh It is a good song! wink
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Oct 18, 2009 3:27 PM CST Moscow Mayor Promises a Winter Without Snow
alexey8
alexey8alexey8Tel Aviv, Israel10 Threads 4 Polls 1,496 Posts
ukrainegary48: there are only a few on here who have been to Russia, know its not perfect. but i just hate to here people talk about something they don't know about. Conrad i have defend the USA on a few occasions. my skin is thick. but i have go buy rules on here. if i say the wrong think i get booted because of my past on here. so really cant say at times what i really think. to me this story suggests russian people are stupid. that's why i,m insulted.


I dont think it suggest that all....I think maybe story suggest that some people in Moscow have big egos and think they can do whatever they want, which sometimes I think that is from Moscow.

But then again, I didn't live in Moscow (just visited here), I lived in St. Petersburg...and so maybe i am just missing the muscovite spirit!
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Oct 18, 2009 3:29 PM CST Moscow Mayor Promises a Winter Without Snow
ukrainegary48
ukrainegary48ukrainegary48Donetsk, Uzbekistan63 Threads 1,113 Posts
sorry if i made a fellow russian mad. were you born in russian, i was . but was raised in the USA, sorry if i insulted you my friend. not my intent.
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Oct 18, 2009 3:37 PM CST Moscow Mayor Promises a Winter Without Snow
alexey8
alexey8alexey8Tel Aviv, Israel10 Threads 4 Polls 1,496 Posts
ukrainegary48: sorry if i made a fellow russian mad. were you born in russian, i was . but was raised in the USA, sorry if i insulted you my friend. not my intent.


handshake No worries, I understand what you mean. There are many cases when stories or people try to make Eastern Europeans appear as stupid or bad or whatever. I think this story is just kind of funny and not really offensive.
I was born in USA, but my family is from Russia, and I also lived there. So, I still see myself as a Russian. And I understand that all countries have problems, Russia and USA...and stories like this I just laugh about because shows you how politicians are really the same everywhere in the world...really always have crazy ideas. laugh
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Oct 18, 2009 3:41 PM CST Moscow Mayor Promises a Winter Without Snow
lonelycowboy101
lonelycowboy101lonelycowboy101Caro, Michigan USA9 Threads 6 Polls 441 Posts
HealthyLiving: Did any of you know that the weather can be controlled in a way such as this?


Yes and the weather can be controled in different way Like (H A R P) but I the the Mayor has been drinking to much Vodka .
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Oct 18, 2009 3:45 PM CST Moscow Mayor Promises a Winter Without Snow
lonelycowboy101
lonelycowboy101lonelycowboy101Caro, Michigan USA9 Threads 6 Polls 441 Posts
ukrainegary48: sorry if i made a fellow russian mad. were you born in russian, i was . but was raised in the USA, sorry if i insulted you my friend. not my intent.


I have been to russia and speak russian . The russian people are beautiful people just like in the U S so many judge them by what there government does or is percieved to have done . I have many friend there yet .
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Oct 18, 2009 6:44 PM CST Moscow Mayor Promises a Winter Without Snow
solitare
solitaresolitareBariloche, Rio Negro Argentina40 Threads 4,041 Posts
"Controlling the weather in Moscow is nothing new, he says. Ahead of the two main holidays celebrated in the city each year - Victory Day in May and City Day in September - the often cash-strapped air force is paid to make sure that it doesn't, well, rain on the parades. With a city budget of $40 billion a year (larger than New York City's budget), Moscow can easily afford the $2-3 million price tag to keep the skies blue as spectators watch the tanks and rocket launchers roll along Red Square. Now there's a new challenge for the air force: Moscow's notorious blizzards."
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Do dis mean what I think it do????? Dat the Roosky Air Force is for hire??? Wow....just think what one could do, get done if one had the money to hire them for a job...rolling on the floor laughing
Oh, I vish I wuz a billionare....ummm, could be catchy tune..laugh
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Oct 18, 2009 7:40 PM CST Moscow Mayor Promises a Winter Without Snow
pubwrite08
pubwrite08pubwrite08Columbus, Georgia USA14 Threads 2,451 Posts
And the mayor of District Heights promised he would not go out in Women clothes again flagging down cars in DC ever again. Who knows.... Maybe he is Serious.
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Oct 18, 2009 9:31 PM CST Moscow Mayor Promises a Winter Without Snow
RayfromUSA
RayfromUSARayfromUSAvienne, Rhone-Alpes France86 Threads 29 Polls 6,611 Posts
lonelycowboy101: Harp is still expanding and will be another third it's size again by next summer . I have little information on the other countries systems but I know that russia has a system . you are correct about the globalist . it may be to late though they are very far along with there plans .


Certainly there is no preventing the rise of the One World Order.
It's been planned for centuries and the richest and most powerful people and groups in the world are behind it. What's more its even predicted in the Bible as a brief temporary but totally necessary step in God's plan.

It will serve to show that money, organization, and technology cannot save mankind. In fact they would destroy mankind if God did not intervene.
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Oct 18, 2009 9:35 PM CST Moscow Mayor Promises a Winter Without Snow
ukrainegary48
ukrainegary48ukrainegary48Donetsk, Uzbekistan63 Threads 1,113 Posts
lonelycowboy101: I have been to russia and speak russian . The russian people are beautiful people just like in the U S so many judge them by what there government does or is percieved to have done . I have many friend there yet .
did you enjoy your visit to Russia. i find it hard here in Ukraine. i have to speak three different language on a daily basics. russian/ukrainian/English. it get hard switching back and fourth all day at work.
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Oct 18, 2009 9:37 PM CST Moscow Mayor Promises a Winter Without Snow
virgiomonkey
virgiomonkeyvirgiomonkeyAuckland, New Zealand4,241 Posts
Conrad73: But it is OK to insult American Culture?


.............Bingo,Garry you have just been shot down..again....laugh ..thumbs up ....thumbs up

J.Dgrin devil
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