Why do we as a society execute people for killing people to show that killing is wrong? ( Archived) (90)

Oct 22, 2009 7:26 PM CST Why do we as a society execute people for killing people to show that killing is wrong?
jdc5558
jdc5558jdc5558Williamsburg, Indiana USA5 Threads 152 Posts
Intruders will be shot survivors will be shot again. Enter my house when I am home and I assume you are aware that I am an armed combat veteran. I also assume that you, knowing I am armed and willing to use force to protect my home are confident in your ability to disarm me. Since you are sure you can disarm me and continue to invade, I have a reasonable fear for my safety. Under these guidelines you would only leave my house in a body bag and I would spend the night in police custody and be released the following day to a hero's welcome. Doubt it. You don't live in Indiana. We have the right to defend our homes here. Left wing radicals hate it but we still have a constitution here, with rights. If the rights were taken we still have the rule of the three S's. It is doubtful that your hero Obama will be able to do anything to disarm Americans. It would surely lead to a bloody civil war. beer
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Oct 22, 2009 7:27 PM CST Why do we as a society execute people for killing people to show that killing is wrong?
woodzchick
woodzchickwoodzchickCallands, Virginia USA38 Threads 1 Polls 2,006 Posts
YouMeUs: I haven't read all the posts here but this is my stance on the matter.
If someone breaks into my home and carries a gun or other life-threatening weapon, and shows intent to use it, then it becomes a matter of my life or theirs. I will not hesitate to pull the trigger. It's called self defense and should not be considered a crime.

However, should they be unarmed, I would make it perfectly clear to them that I have a loaded gun simply by pointing it at them, but would not pull the trigger unless they decided to charge upon me after that fact. But rarely would anyone be stupid enough to do that unless they had a death wish or trashed out of their minds on drugs, booze, or both, whatever. If I were to pull the trigger in this situation, my gun would be pointed at one of their legs, preferably a knee.

Where I live there are no immediate law officials. The closest police station in any direction is roughly 30 miles away. And rarely do any state troopers cruise this area. The crime rate here is extremely low to non-existant. So if I decided to instead call 911 rather than to take matters into my own hands, I would more than likely be injured or worse, dead, by the time the law would show up.

Given that, my answer is NO, it should not be considered a crime if a homeowner kills an intruder ONLY IF those types of conditions are met. I will stress the fact that I do not wish to kill anyone, but if it comes down to it being my life or theirs, I will defend myself.


I'm in the same situation. Response time here is probably at least 15 minutes...at least. You have 4 deputies that patrol 382 square miles. Everybody can do the math.
But, another thought...does anyone remember the murders that happened probably back in the 80s. It was a young man and woman that broke into this woman's home. I don't remember their names. Anyway, when they broke into the home they had no weapons. They picked up a pick axe while in the home and that is what they murdered the other 2 people with. When they found the man in the house, he still had the axe in his chest. The woman that committed the crime got the death penalty and has already been executed I think. The man that was with her got life in prison because he testified against her. So, sometimes people may break into your home with no weapon and pick something up in the house.
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Oct 22, 2009 7:29 PM CST Why do we as a society execute people for killing people to show that killing is wrong?
woodzchick
woodzchickwoodzchickCallands, Virginia USA38 Threads 1 Polls 2,006 Posts
solsticemoon: hey sweetie
I've seen the movies..I'd shoot him then dismember him ...I aint riskin him comin back for the sequel!


OH my! Yes, that should take care of him/her. But they might get you on that one.laugh I believe that is referred to as above and beyond.laugh
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Oct 22, 2009 7:36 PM CST Why do we as a society execute people for killing people to show that killing is wrong?
RayfromUSA
RayfromUSARayfromUSAvienne, Rhone-Alpes France86 Threads 29 Polls 6,611 Posts
In the Report From Iron Mountain, a study on the effects that world peace would have on society, it was concluded that the death penalty serves one of the same purposes as war.
It is a ritual reminder that the state has the power of life and death over all subjects. That concept is necessary to keep a society together. Human sacrifice serves the same purpose.
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Oct 22, 2009 7:37 PM CST Why do we as a society execute people for killing people to show that killing is wrong?
ladichatterlee
ladichatterleeladichatterleeOld Hickory, Tennessee USA2 Threads 212 Posts
woodzchick: I'm in the same situation. Response time here is probably at least 15 minutes...at least. You have 4 deputies that patrol 382 square miles. Everybody can do the math.
But, another thought...does anyone remember the murders that happened probably back in the 80s. It was a young man and woman that broke into this woman's home. I don't remember their names. Anyway, when they broke into the home they had no weapons. They picked up a pick axe while in the home and that is what they murdered the other 2 people with. When they found the man in the house, he still had the axe in his chest. The woman that committed the crime got the death penalty and has already been executed I think. The man that was with her got life in prison because he testified against her. So, sometimes people may break into your home with no weapon and pick something up in the house.


I think you're referring to that Carla What's-Her-Name who had become a Christian while in prison. Still, she deserved the death penalty. In the absence of extreme, provable, legally defined mental illness, I find it almost impossible to even imagine what motivates such extremely horrific acts.
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Oct 22, 2009 7:40 PM CST Why do we as a society execute people for killing people to show that killing is wrong?
woodzchick
woodzchickwoodzchickCallands, Virginia USA38 Threads 1 Polls 2,006 Posts
ladichatterlee: I think you're referring to that Carla What's-Her-Name who had become a Christian while in prison. Still, she deserved the death penalty. In the absence of extreme, provable, legally defined mental illness, I find it almost impossible to even imagine what motivates such extremely horrific acts.


Yes, thank you. It was Carla Faye Tucker. Yes, she deserved the death penalty. She claimed that she had changed. I believe her to an extent, but she did the crime. It's a shame that she didn't change before she brutally killed those 2 people.
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Oct 22, 2009 7:42 PM CST Why do we as a society execute people for killing people to show that killing is wrong?
ladichatterlee
ladichatterleeladichatterleeOld Hickory, Tennessee USA2 Threads 212 Posts
mnowsa: just wondering if i just want to see how pretty u look through your window at night, will you still shoot me?


That all depends on how pretty YOU look through my window at night.

lips
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Oct 22, 2009 7:42 PM CST Why do we as a society execute people for killing people to show that killing is wrong?
woodzchick
woodzchickwoodzchickCallands, Virginia USA38 Threads 1 Polls 2,006 Posts
solsticemoon: Joking aside..I had that rare 'n wonderful thing a couple of months ago...a guy in my bed...he nearly wet himself when after spending an uncomfortable night trying to sleep he looked under his pillow in the morning...a claw hammer...my biggest knife and the scissors!
strange he never came back


Would you like to borrow my chainsaw?rolling on the floor laughing
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Oct 22, 2009 7:46 PM CST Why do we as a society execute people for killing people to show that killing is wrong?
solsticemoon
solsticemoonsolsticemoonjavea, Valencia Spain64 Threads 4,504 Posts
woodzchick: Would you like to borrow my chainsaw?


Knowing my luck I'd run out of petrol!rolling on the floor laughing
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Oct 22, 2009 7:46 PM CST Why do we as a society execute people for killing people to show that killing is wrong?
mnowsa
mnowsamnowsaRajshahi, Rajshahi Division Bangladesh145 Threads 3 Polls 7,536 Posts
ladichatterlee: That all depends on how pretty YOU look through my window at night.


but but how can i possibly look PRETTY!? i am not a woman! i am a man and i should be uglydunno
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Oct 22, 2009 7:48 PM CST Why do we as a society execute people for killing people to show that killing is wrong?
RayfromUSA
RayfromUSARayfromUSAvienne, Rhone-Alpes France86 Threads 29 Polls 6,611 Posts
jdc5558:
It is doubtful that Obama will be able to do anything to disarm Americans. It would surely lead to a bloody civil war.


But that is exactly the aim.
Obama doesn't mind losing a few cops.
It would only serve his purpose by making the other cops more apt to shoot first.

Civilians with deer rifles aren't a match for storm troopers with body armor and machine guns.

The Obamination fully intends to use a lot of violence.

They have a lot of empty FEMA camps to fill up.
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Oct 22, 2009 7:49 PM CST Why do we as a society execute people for killing people to show that killing is wrong?
ladichatterlee
ladichatterleeladichatterleeOld Hickory, Tennessee USA2 Threads 212 Posts
It was a play off your wor -- ummm...nevermind.

Since when should a man be UGLY?
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Oct 22, 2009 7:49 PM CST Why do we as a society execute people for killing people to show that killing is wrong?
woodzchick
woodzchickwoodzchickCallands, Virginia USA38 Threads 1 Polls 2,006 Posts
solsticemoon: Knowing my luck I'd run out of petrol!


It would probably take me 10 minutes to get it cranked. I bet I could scare the crap out of them while I was trying though. I believe I would rather have a gun pointing at me. Maybe I should go get it back out of the shed?laugh
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Oct 22, 2009 7:52 PM CST Why do we as a society execute people for killing people to show that killing is wrong?
mnowsa
mnowsamnowsaRajshahi, Rajshahi Division Bangladesh145 Threads 3 Polls 7,536 Posts
ladichatterlee: It was a play off your wor -- ummm...nevermind.

Since when should a man be UGLY?


oh..i have always thought that women are some pretty and cute creatures and men are almost always some 'ugly' beasts(at least that's the impression i get from ladies here)dunno laugh
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Oct 22, 2009 7:54 PM CST Why do we as a society execute people for killing people to show that killing is wrong?
woodzchick: I'm in the same situation. Response time here is probably at least 15 minutes...at least. You have 4 deputies that patrol 382 square miles. Everybody can do the math.
But, another thought...does anyone remember the murders that happened probably back in the 80s. It was a young man and woman that broke into this woman's home. I don't remember their names. Anyway, when they broke into the home they had no weapons. They picked up a pick axe while in the home and that is what they murdered the other 2 people with. When they found the man in the house, he still had the axe in his chest. The woman that committed the crime got the death penalty and has already been executed I think. The man that was with her got life in prison because he testified against her. So, sometimes people may break into your home with no weapon and pick something up in the house.
That's exactly the reason why I would disable them should they try to charge upon me. If I'm the one holding the weapon, there's a chance they may want to disarm me and then use my own weapon against me. I wouldn't want to take that chance at all.
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Oct 22, 2009 7:55 PM CST Why do we as a society execute people for killing people to show that killing is wrong?
solsticemoon
solsticemoonsolsticemoonjavea, Valencia Spain64 Threads 4,504 Posts
mnowsa: oh..i have always thought that women are some pretty and cute creatures and men are almost always some 'ugly' beasts(at least that's the impression i get from ladies here)


well we seldom get any pleasant suprises from the "faceless" onesdunno laugh
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Oct 22, 2009 8:02 PM CST Why do we as a society execute people for killing people to show that killing is wrong?
solsticemoon
solsticemoonsolsticemoonjavea, Valencia Spain64 Threads 4,504 Posts
woodzchick: Me...how about you with the hammer, scissors, and knife under the pillow?


rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing
behave..I'm fed up of wastin good drink spraying it on the pc..
but you know..I might have to defend the dogs...besides if he breaks in n he's cute, do ya really think he's gettin out quite so easy!laugh
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Oct 22, 2009 8:02 PM CST Why do we as a society execute people for killing people to show that killing is wrong?
mnowsa
mnowsamnowsaRajshahi, Rajshahi Division Bangladesh145 Threads 3 Polls 7,536 Posts
solsticemoon: well we seldom get any pleasant suprises from the "faceless" ones


i maybe faceless but i got other "stuffs"innocent
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Oct 22, 2009 8:05 PM CST Why do we as a society execute people for killing people to show that killing is wrong?
woodzchick
woodzchickwoodzchickCallands, Virginia USA38 Threads 1 Polls 2,006 Posts
mnowsa: i maybe faceless but i got other "stuffs"


Where is the eyes? And how do you talk with no mouth?laugh
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Oct 22, 2009 8:07 PM CST Why do we as a society execute people for killing people to show that killing is wrong?
mnowsa
mnowsamnowsaRajshahi, Rajshahi Division Bangladesh145 Threads 3 Polls 7,536 Posts
woodzchick: Where is the eyes? And how do you talk with no mouth?


why u think the terminator guy said "talk to the hands"rolling on the floor laughing
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