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Oct 19, 2009 5:47 PM CST Why do we as a society execute people for killing people to show that killing is wrong?
rob4u777
rob4u777rob4u777Charlotte Amalie, Saint Thomas Virgin Islands (USA)94 Threads 195 Posts
HELLO, TO ALL OF YOU.....tonight my question are a more on a serious note.

LAW and.....Criminal questions
here's another question:

Should it be considered a crime (or murder) when a home owner kills an intruder?
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Oct 19, 2009 5:51 PM CST Why do we as a society execute people for killing people to show that killing is wrong?
nope, a man can defend his home (castle) and you don't know what they will do to the home owner, as for the heading, why should they live after taking a life, it costs to feed and house them for life, it is like early retirement for them, once convicted for sure guilty hang them........ jmho
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Oct 19, 2009 5:53 PM CST Why do we as a society execute people for killing people to show that killing is wrong?
think what good that money could do for under privilage kids and starving people
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Oct 19, 2009 5:59 PM CST Why do we as a society execute people for killing people to show that killing is wrong?
woodzchick
woodzchickwoodzchickCallands, Virginia USA38 Threads 1 Polls 2,006 Posts
There is something called a "castle exception." The definition in my text book is this......An exception to the retreat rule that recognizes a person's fundamental right to be in his or her home and also recognizes the home as a final and inviolable place or retreat. Under the castle exception to the retreat rule, it is not necessary to retreat from one's home in the face of an immediate threat, even where retreat is possible, before resorting to deadly force in protection of the home.

Therefore, make sure that when you kill him, he is in the house. If his foot is sticking outside the door, pull it back in. Most of the officers that I spoke with told me that they would not charge a person for killing an intruder if the person was in their home. It's their home and they shouldn't have to leave it because of an intruder.
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Oct 19, 2009 5:59 PM CST Why do we as a society execute people for killing people to show that killing is wrong?
hopefloats
hopefloatshopefloatsSlim's Lady, Tennessee USA51 Threads 6,660 Posts
"Should it be considered a crime (or murder) when a home owner kills an intruder?"


Absolutely not. It's self-defense. professor cool
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Oct 19, 2009 6:00 PM CST Why do we as a society execute people for killing people to show that killing is wrong?
woodzchick
woodzchickwoodzchickCallands, Virginia USA38 Threads 1 Polls 2,006 Posts
woodzchick: There is something called a "castle exception." The definition in my text book is this......An exception to the retreat rule that recognizes a person's fundamental right to be in his or her home and also recognizes the home as a final and inviolable place or retreat. Under the castle exception to the retreat rule, it is not necessary to retreat from one's home in the face of an immediate threat, even where retreat is possible, before resorting to deadly force in protection of the home.

Therefore, make sure that when you kill him, he is in the house. If his foot is sticking outside the door, pull it back in. Most of the officers that I spoke with told me that they would not charge a person for killing an intruder if the person was in their home. It's their home and they shouldn't have to leave it because of an intruder.


Make sure you finish him off so he can't attempt to tell his side of the story.laugh
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Oct 19, 2009 6:02 PM CST Why do we as a society execute people for killing people to show that killing is wrong?
solsticemoon
solsticemoonsolsticemoonjavea, Valencia Spain64 Threads 4,504 Posts
woodzchick: Make sure you finish him off so he can't attempt to tell his side of the story.

rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing
oh god ..more drink wasted on the keyboard!thumbs up thumbs up laugh
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Oct 19, 2009 6:04 PM CST Why do we as a society execute people for killing people to show that killing is wrong?
hopefloats
hopefloatshopefloatsSlim's Lady, Tennessee USA51 Threads 6,660 Posts
solsticemoon: oh god ..more drink wasted on the keyboard!



Here's a paper towel. I have plenty!rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing tongue
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Oct 19, 2009 6:06 PM CST Why do we as a society execute people for killing people to show that killing is wrong?
rob4u777
rob4u777rob4u777Charlotte Amalie, Saint Thomas Virgin Islands (USA)94 Threads 195 Posts
woodzchick: There is something called a "castle exception." The definition in my text book is this......An exception to the retreat rule that recognizes a person's fundamental right to be in his or her home and also recognizes the home as a final and inviolable place or retreat. Under the castle exception to the retreat rule, it is not necessary to retreat from one's home in the face of an immediate threat, even where retreat is possible, before resorting to deadly force in protection of the home.

Therefore, make sure that when you kill him, he is in the house. If his foot is sticking outside the door, pull it back in. Most of the officers that I spoke with told me that they would not charge a person for killing an intruder if the person was in their home. It's their home and they shouldn't have to leave it because of an intruder.


Thanks alot...I was waiting for your answer and right you are, once you step outside the home you may get a criminal charge place on you.

Nice to see you, again
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Oct 19, 2009 6:07 PM CST Why do we as a society execute people for killing people to show that killing is wrong?
woodzchick
woodzchickwoodzchickCallands, Virginia USA38 Threads 1 Polls 2,006 Posts
solsticemoon: oh god ..more drink wasted on the keyboard!


I'm glad I could make someone laugh today.laugh
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Oct 19, 2009 6:08 PM CST Why do we as a society execute people for killing people to show that killing is wrong?
woodzchick
woodzchickwoodzchickCallands, Virginia USA38 Threads 1 Polls 2,006 Posts
rob4u777: Thanks alot...I was waiting for your answer and right you are, once you step outside the home you may get a criminal charge place on you.

Nice to see you, again


It's good to see you too. Good thread....I think everybody can relate.
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Oct 19, 2009 6:16 PM CST Why do we as a society execute people for killing people to show that killing is wrong?
Jan1305
Jan1305Jan1305Sunshine and vino, Murcia Spain170 Threads 5,319 Posts
In response to: HELLO, TO ALL OF YOU.....tonight my question are a more on a serious note.

LAW and.....Criminal questions
here's another question:

Should it be considered a crime (or murder) when a home owner kills an intruder?


In reply to the thread title, we don´t all execute murderers, not here in Spain, nor in the UK where I was born.

In reply to your thread opening post, quite different from the thread title by the way, it depends, but in the eyes of the law it makes no difference as far as I understand.

A person who murders a burglar who has not threatened the lives of the inhabitants of the home he or she is robbing, will quite rightly be charged with murder.
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Oct 19, 2009 6:26 PM CST Why do we as a society execute people for killing people to show that killing is wrong?
rob4u777
rob4u777rob4u777Charlotte Amalie, Saint Thomas Virgin Islands (USA)94 Threads 195 Posts
Jan1305: In reply to the thread title, we don´t all execute murderers, not here in Spain, nor in the UK where I was born.

In reply to your thread opening post, quite different from the thread title by the way, it depends, but in the eyes of the law it makes no difference as far as I understand.

A person who murders a burglar who has not threatened the lives of the inhabitants of the home he or she is robbing, will quite rightly be charged with murder.



That's a certainly a different law in the UK and Spain...if i the buglar did not intend to hurt anyone nor rob anyone and I am shot by you...that you would be charge with murder..that's a interested law

Thanks Jan....and Hello to you.
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Oct 19, 2009 7:30 PM CST Why do we as a society execute people for killing people to show that killing is wrong?
rob4u777: That's a certainly a different law in the UK and Spain...if i the buglar did not intend to hurt anyone nor rob anyone and I am shot by you...that you would be charge with murder..that's a interested law

Thanks Jan....and Hello to you.
our castle law was expanded, if you are in your auto and feel you are indanger of bodily injure you have the right to defend your self to the point of shooting the offender but make sure his prints are on the door, i believe this is in response to car jackings and people losing their lives to low life scum... i carry always and would use it if some one grabbed my door handle or if i thought i was in danger.. you do have a right to protect yourself and your loved ones.. jmo but what person entering your home or auto is going to announce i am not armed and don't mean you any harm.........???
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Oct 19, 2009 7:51 PM CST Why do we as a society execute people for killing people to show that killing is wrong?
Make sure the wound is fatal, so they cannot come back and sue you for disability.cheers
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Oct 19, 2009 8:48 PM CST Why do we as a society execute people for killing people to show that killing is wrong?
alexey8
alexey8alexey8Tel Aviv, Israel10 Threads 4 Polls 1,496 Posts
rob4u777: HELLO, TO ALL OF YOU.....tonight my question are a more on a serious note.

LAW and.....Criminal questions
here's another question:

Should it be considered a crime (or murder) when a home owner kills an intruder?


Well, unless the home owner killed the intruder in self defense, then it is a crime. According to the law (at least in California) you can not just shoot someone because they are on your property or in your house. They need to be in physical danger for it to be justified.
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Oct 19, 2009 8:55 PM CST Why do we as a society execute people for killing people to show that killing is wrong?
BebeII
BebeIIBebeIIConcordville, Pennsylvania USA23 Threads 1,965 Posts
rob4u777: HELLO, TO ALL OF YOU.....tonight my question are a more on a serious note.

LAW and.....Criminal questions
here's another question:

Should it be considered a crime (or murder) when a home owner kills an intruder?
Honestly, do you have to ask?
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Oct 22, 2009 1:55 PM CST Why do we as a society execute people for killing people to show that killing is wrong?
ladichatterlee
ladichatterleeladichatterleeOld Hickory, Tennessee USA2 Threads 212 Posts
If one commits capital murder, he/she should realize that they have no right to take a life, therefore should automatically also know they risk the chance of losing their own. There's a difference between killing and execution, just like there's a difference between premeditated murder in the first degree and, for instance, manslaughter or negligent homicide. If someone willfully, deliberately takes the life of another human being they should also lose their own life.

No, it shouldn't be considered a crime when a homeowner kills an intruder.
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Oct 22, 2009 2:00 PM CST Why do we as a society execute people for killing people to show that killing is wrong?
bodleing
bodleingbodleingGreater Manchester, England UK238 Threads 8 Polls 13,810 Posts
What a vicious lot some of you are!!!


uh oh
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Oct 22, 2009 2:03 PM CST Why do we as a society execute people for killing people to show that killing is wrong?
ladichatterlee
ladichatterleeladichatterleeOld Hickory, Tennessee USA2 Threads 212 Posts
Vicious? Tell that to the parent of any murdered child. Tell that to, to name one of many examples, John Walsh (whom you might be familiar with from America's Most Wanted) whose son, Adam, was found decapitated in a canal in Florida.
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