does god actually exist in your eyes (257)

Jan 13, 2010 11:48 AM CST does god actually exist in your eyes
tainogirl
tainogirltainogirlTrincity,West Indies,, Trinidad and Tobago215 Threads 2 Polls 3,777 Posts
wobbie: i never said it would lead to deaths........ i said there is no point in praying to god if the person has a terminal llness like a lot of people do thats all .. morphine relieves a persons pain not praying to god


Okay lets say that a person has a terminal illness and the praying to God(whoever they perceive God to be)provides them with a sense of comfort, is that wrong? They are probably well aware that there is no coming back from a terminal illness so you would deny someone this comfort simply because you do not believe in what they are doing? Everyone has a right to choose how they meet their end same as you. I'm sure the morphine helps - physically but what about their mental state? That's important too. Its not your way but it is the way of others. I see nothing wrong with taking drugs prescribed to relieve the pain, in fact the two can go hand in hand, the belief in something does not mean you are required to stop using your brain or commonsense. That's what I mean when I spoke about perception. People's PERCEPTION of what they THINK God is or isn't is what I think dictates whether they believe or not.wine
Jan 13, 2010 11:54 AM CST does god actually exist in your eyes
PennyLane12
PennyLane12PennyLane12cork, Cork Ireland27 Posts
ella1976: hi pet yes i beleive in ghosts ,when i was 6 r 7 ,i was in the back bedroom of our house ,on my own ,none of my sisters were home,in the double bed ,lights off ,all off a sudden a weight down at the side of me ,and then it gentle started 2 rub my leg ,and for the sick minded with was,nt human,i can remember that weight so clearly
Same thing happened me when i was 12.wide awake in bed at 3 in morn and cud feel my dog movin on my legs 4 ages.then i heard barking downstairs so was like whats on my legs!i tried sit up but something holdin me down!scared the bejesus outa me whatever it was!
Jan 13, 2010 11:54 AM CST does god actually exist in your eyes
scriobhneoir
scriobhneoirscriobhneoirCork, Ireland85 Threads 2 Polls 3,276 Posts
wobbie: ......why is it that wen people were young kids they were led to believe by their peers that santa the tooth fairy , easter bunny and god were all real
come to 10 yrs of age you find out all the afore mentioned were nuthin but myths fables call it what you will .. but people still believe there is a god


That's the crux of it Wobbie. There is no more logic in my view to a belief in God than there is to a belief in Santa or the Tooth Fairy.

If people want to believe in God, more power to them , just so long as they don't harp on about how they 'know the truth'.

Incidentally My last appearance in a church was also for my Niece's christening and I was actually the Godfather, but I did it out of loyalty to my sister than any elusive beardy guy up in the sky who sends people to hell for being Gay, Atheist or 'the wrong sort of christian.'
Jan 13, 2010 11:58 AM CST does god actually exist in your eyes
galwayguy34
galwayguy34galwayguy34galway, Galway Ireland9 Threads 143 Posts
wobbie: heya i dont believe god is anything and so far ive had no deaths illnesses etc within my immediate family or friends .. etc

Well i do believe in God and i have lost both my parents and what keeps me going is the hope that i will see them again when i die and i think its up to everyone to believe in what they choose to believe in and i dont feel i need to explain my beliefs to anyone.
Jan 13, 2010 11:59 AM CST does god actually exist in your eyes
scriobhneoir
scriobhneoirscriobhneoirCork, Ireland85 Threads 2 Polls 3,276 Posts
galwayguy34: i think its up to everyone to believe in what they choose to believe in and i dont feel i need to explain my beliefs to anyone.

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Jan 13, 2010 11:59 AM CST does god actually exist in your eyes
PennyLane12: Same thing happened me when i was 12.wide awake in bed at 3 in morn and cud feel my dog movin on my legs 4 ages.then i heard barking downstairs so was like whats on my legs!i tried sit up but something holdin me down!scared the bejesus outa me whatever it was!
its no joke ,when the weight came down beside me i could feel myself raisin a bit ,as u would if some1 sat at the edge,im hopein it was me dads dad,?and ya rubbin me gently ,i just hid under the blankets
Jan 13, 2010 12:05 PM CST does god actually exist in your eyes
scarwolve
scarwolvescarwolvescarwolfs den, Carlow Ireland313 Threads 18 Polls 3,060 Posts
wobbie: me personally no idont believe in god .. dont go to mass last time was in a church was my nieces christening ......why is it that wen people were young kids they were led to believe by their peers that santa the tooth fairy , easter bunny and god were all real
come to 10 yrs of age you find out all the afore mentioned were nuthin but myths fables call it what you will .. but people still believe there is a god .... in my opinion its mainly the older generation that believe this .. i cud be wrong thats why i posted this to get different opinions .. or someone that cud put up a decent defence as to why i shud believe there is a god ..........


people tend not to believe if they dont see it with there own eyes,

i believe theres a god, and for a decent defence well i dont think anyone has the right to change someones views its up to the person to change it for themselves

i believe in a higher power, and does no one any harm. infact it can help people with there morals. il accept there are fanatics that make the whole thing into a nightmare but i stand by my belifs
Jan 13, 2010 12:06 PM CST does god actually exist in your eyes
scriobhneoir
scriobhneoirscriobhneoirCork, Ireland85 Threads 2 Polls 3,276 Posts
Sukatai,

Just because you don't believe god exists doesn't mean you can't be interested in the debates about whether it exists or not.
Jan 13, 2010 12:07 PM CST does god actually exist in your eyes
PennyLane12
PennyLane12PennyLane12cork, Cork Ireland27 Posts
ella1976: its no joke ,when the weight came down beside me i could feel myself raisin a bit ,as u would if some1 sat at the edge,im hopein it was me dads dad,?and ya rubbin me gently ,i just hid under the blankets
it have no idea what it was and dont want to either!will never forget it didnt sleep properly for yrs after!
Jan 13, 2010 12:14 PM CST does god actually exist in your eyes
PennyLane12: it have no idea what it was and dont want to either!will never forget it didnt sleep properly for yrs after!
i didnt think about it since holloween ,tell the kids a story ,but its true,and id love 2 know who it was ,it came in peace thats the way i look at itcomfort
Jan 13, 2010 12:19 PM CST does god actually exist in your eyes
PennyLane12
PennyLane12PennyLane12cork, Cork Ireland27 Posts
ella1976: i didnt think about it since holloween ,tell the kids a story ,but its true,and id love 2 know who it was ,it came in peace thats the way i look at it
ya that true def didnt harm me anyway.it seems to be fairly common wit young girls .read a lot about it and its happened to a lot of girls
Jan 13, 2010 12:20 PM CST does god actually exist in your eyes
wobbie
wobbiewobbiedublin, Dublin Ireland12 Threads 352 Posts
scarwolve: people tend not to believe if they dont see it with there own eyes,

i believe theres a god, and for a decent defence well i dont think anyone has the right to change someones views its up to the person to change it for themselves

i believe in a higher power, and does no one any harm. infact it can help people with there morals. il accept there are fanatics that make the whole thing into a nightmare but i stand by my belifs


not tryin to change anyones point of view wat so ever imjust asking for reasons as to why people believe theres a god ... what makes them believe there is someone upthere .....thats all
Jan 13, 2010 12:20 PM CST does god actually exist in your eyes
redrain
redrainredrainlimerick, Limerick Ireland27 Threads 12 Polls 1,525 Posts
wobbie: evolution ; there is concret proof we can see it the sun moon stars etc ;; who really believes eve came from a rib taken from adam HELLO


I wasnt trying to say that evolution dosent make sence..
What i was saying is no one on this palnet can tell me how the universe was created i dont belive the hole big bang theory because no one can explain how the big bang atcually happened im a space nerd and i love everything to do with astronomy but with everything i have leanred so far abouth it so far i havent come across an answer as to how or why the universe is here??

No one can explain how evolution started evolution is just not life on earth but it is also our solar syatem and the universe and untill someone proves how the universe was created you have no proof as to how evolution began..
Jan 13, 2010 12:21 PM CST does god actually exist in your eyes
PennyLane12: ya that true def didnt harm me anyway.it seems to be fairly common wit young girls .read a lot about it and its happened to a lot of girls
really ,did it say what it could be ,it was around 27years it happened 2 me
Jan 13, 2010 12:22 PM CST does god actually exist in your eyes
Exhausted24
Exhausted24Exhausted24Dundalk, Louth Ireland4 Threads 2 Polls 394 Posts
PennyLane12: ya that true def didnt harm me anyway.it seems to be fairly common wit young girls .read a lot about it and its happened to a lot of girls


Heres your answer, Its fairly common

Jan 13, 2010 12:27 PM CST does god actually exist in your eyes
sukatai
sukataisukataiTipperary, Ireland20 Threads 2 Polls 678 Posts
wobbie: as i posted earlier had this discussion witha housemate who does believe in god ... but cudnt fully explain her reasons so i decided to post the thread to see wat other people taught .. cud start a thread bout alien life forms ....doesnt mean i believe in them ......


That fair point then, just seemed you where a little hipocritical at start.handshake
Jan 13, 2010 12:27 PM CST does god actually exist in your eyes
jonathan_heart
jonathan_heartjonathan_heartdublin, Dublin Ireland60 Threads 8 Polls 2,108 Posts
note to self: god and evolution threads - dont read

reason: nothing ever good comes of them. talk about them too much and we can forget to experience these things for real. my opinion
Jan 13, 2010 12:27 PM CST does god actually exist in your eyes
wobbie
wobbiewobbiedublin, Dublin Ireland12 Threads 352 Posts
redrain: I wasnt trying to say that evolution dosent make sence..
What i was saying is no one on this palnet can tell me how the universe was created i dont belive the hole big bang theory because no one can explain how the big bang atcually happened im a space nerd and i love everything to do with astronomy but with everything i have leanred so far abouth it so far i havent come across an answer as to how or why the universe is here??

No one can explain how evolution started evolution is just not life on earth but it is also our solar syatem and the universe and untill someone proves how the universe was created you have no proof as to how evolution began..


true but its more plausible than seeing images of the virgin mary etc ...... planets are visible thay are there .. how they came to be dont think anyone will know ... but we all know they do exist
Jan 13, 2010 12:28 PM CST does god actually exist in your eyes
PennyLane12
PennyLane12PennyLane12cork, Cork Ireland27 Posts
ella1976: really ,did it say what it could be ,it was around 27years it happened 2 me
well lots say its sleep paralysis but i dont think it that.then theres an incubus which is a demon but as u werent hurt it wouldnt be that either ,so more than likely was someone watchin over u..
Jan 13, 2010 12:30 PM CST does god actually exist in your eyes
Exhausted24
Exhausted24Exhausted24Dundalk, Louth Ireland4 Threads 2 Polls 394 Posts
PennyLane12: well lots say its sleep paralysis but i dont think it that.then theres an incubus which is a demon but as u werent hurt it wouldnt be that either ,so more than likely was someone watchin over u..


its sleep paralysis read the linkthumbs up comfort
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