Minimum Wage (76)

Jan 19, 2010 12:04 PM CST Minimum Wage
robpacciani
robpaccianirobpaccianiGalway, Ireland211 Threads 3 Polls 5,134 Posts
I was watching Frontline last night and there seems to be a lot of people looking to cut the minimum wage, especially people in the catering and restaurant business.

Restaurants have to pay 8% on top of the minimum wage to their employees, plus 2% PRSI on top of that.

But do you think if the minimum wage was dropped, would it really get Ireland out of this mess, would it even help? In my opinion, it would make things worse. People dont have money as it is, and a cut to the minimum wage, i'm sure you would see a lot of people drawing the dole instead of working.

Opinions people....... I'm against dropping the minimum wage
Jan 19, 2010 12:09 PM CST Minimum Wage
areyoureadytogo
areyoureadytogoareyoureadytogotipperary/offaly, Tipperary Ireland35 Threads 1 Polls 2,024 Posts
well i didn't see the programme last night but when i started out working i was on crap money when i saw people work with me who were on the minimum wage then i said to myself Jesus their earning more than what im nearly making and im more qualified than them!i personally think it should be cut its way over paid
Jan 19, 2010 12:10 PM CST Minimum Wage
Godsgift
GodsgiftGodsgiftEnnis, Clare Ireland251 Threads 13 Polls 10,040 Posts
robpacciani: I was watching Frontline last night and there seems to be a lot of people looking to cut the minimum wage, especially people in the catering and restaurant business.

Restaurants have to pay 8% on top of the minimum wage to their employees, plus 2% PRSI on top of that.

But do you think if the minimum wage was dropped, would it really get Ireland out of this mess, would it even help? In my opinion, it would make things worse. People dont have money as it is, and a cut to the minimum wage, i'm sure you would see a lot of people drawing the dole instead of working.

Opinions people....... I'm against dropping the minimum wage


Hi Rob. I can see both sides of this in that I know that folks on minimum wage are making little enough already but if the restaurants are having trouble staying afloat, they must reduce costs to attract custom. If they go out of business, then the job is gone anyway.

I must say though, it seems pointless having a minimum wage if you can just reduce it any time you need to.
Jan 19, 2010 12:12 PM CST Minimum Wage
Kalimera
KalimeraKalimeraDublin, Ireland6 Threads 1,708 Posts
areyoureadytogo: well i didn't see the programme last night but when i started out working i was on crap money when i saw people work with me who were on the minimum wage then i said to myself Jesus their earning more than what im nearly making and im more qualified than them!i personally think it should be cut its way over paid



Cut? Is only €8.65 an hour, how could you expect anyone to work for less than that?
Jan 19, 2010 12:12 PM CST Minimum Wage
Keeneland
KeenelandKeenelandDublin, Ireland19 Threads 3 Polls 1,993 Posts
robpacciani: I was watching Frontline last night and there seems to be a lot of people looking to cut the minimum wage, especially people in the catering and restaurant business.

Restaurants have to pay 8% on top of the minimum wage to their employees, plus 2% PRSI on top of that.

But do you think if the minimum wage was dropped, would it really get Ireland out of this mess, would it even help? In my opinion, it would make things worse. People dont have money as it is, and a cut to the minimum wage, i'm sure you would see a lot of people drawing the dole instead of working.

Opinions people....... I'm against dropping the minimum wage


The minimum wage is 8.65 an hour. They can't justify cutting that. That means you get 346 Euro for working a 40 hour week. How the hell do they expect people to live on that I don't know. And a lot of jobs that pay minimum wage a really hard work and have horrible hours. I agree with you Rob. You can't expect people to work for less than 8.65 an hour. It would just widen the gap between the rich and poor.
Jan 19, 2010 12:12 PM CST Minimum Wage
robpacciani
robpaccianirobpaccianiGalway, Ireland211 Threads 3 Polls 5,134 Posts
Godsgift: Hi Rob. I can see both sides of this in that I know that folks on minimum wage are making little enough already but if the restaurants are having trouble staying afloat, they must reduce costs to attract custom. If they go out of business, then the job is gone anyway.

I must say though, it seems pointless having a minimum wage if you can just reduce it any time you need to.


Yes very true, but if they abolished PRSI, would that not even it out??? dunno
Jan 19, 2010 12:13 PM CST Minimum Wage
robpacciani
robpaccianirobpaccianiGalway, Ireland211 Threads 3 Polls 5,134 Posts
areyoureadytogo: well i didn't see the programme last night but when i started out working i was on crap money when i saw people work with me who were on the minimum wage then i said to myself Jesus their earning more than what im nearly making and im more qualified than them!i personally think it should be cut its way over paid


Sorry but if your employees are earning as much as you, your in the wrong business.. dunno
Jan 19, 2010 12:15 PM CST Minimum Wage
Keeneland
KeenelandKeenelandDublin, Ireland19 Threads 3 Polls 1,993 Posts
areyoureadytogo: well i didn't see the programme last night but when i started out working i was on crap money when i saw people work with me who were on the minimum wage then i said to myself Jesus their earning more than what im nearly making and im more qualified than them!i personally think it should be cut its way over paid



8.65 Way over paid??????????????????? Really????????????????confused Could you please tell me one job where someone deserves the earn less than 8.65 an hour?
Jan 19, 2010 12:17 PM CST Minimum Wage
Godsgift
GodsgiftGodsgiftEnnis, Clare Ireland251 Threads 13 Polls 10,040 Posts
Keeneland: 8.65 Way over paid??????????????????? Really???????????????? Could you please tell me one job where someone deserves the earn less than 8.65 an hour?


Yup....Scaffolders only deserve 3 euro per hour!laugh popcorn
Jan 19, 2010 12:17 PM CST Minimum Wage
scriobhneoir
scriobhneoirscriobhneoirCork, Ireland85 Threads 2 Polls 3,276 Posts
It's called a minimum wage for a reason. No way should it be touched.
Jan 19, 2010 12:19 PM CST Minimum Wage
scriobhneoir
scriobhneoirscriobhneoirCork, Ireland85 Threads 2 Polls 3,276 Posts
robpacciani: Sorry but if your employees are earning as much as you, your in the wrong business..


She didn't say she was an employer, she was just a co-worker. Or at least that's what I understood.
Jan 19, 2010 12:19 PM CST Minimum Wage
robpacciani
robpaccianirobpaccianiGalway, Ireland211 Threads 3 Polls 5,134 Posts
Godsgift: Yup....Scaffolders only deserve 3 euro per hour!


Haha, hey i am a scaffolder. Well was laugh Bit of a drop 21 an hour to 3 dude laugh
Jan 19, 2010 12:20 PM CST Minimum Wage
robpacciani
robpaccianirobpaccianiGalway, Ireland211 Threads 3 Polls 5,134 Posts
scriobhneoir: She didn't say she was an employer, she was just a co-worker. Or at least that's what I understood.


Well she told me she has her own business, hence why i took it up that way scribs..
Jan 19, 2010 12:20 PM CST Minimum Wage
Losty
LostyLostyDublin, Ireland138 Threads 2 Polls 3,089 Posts
Let us all get one thing clear; it is one thing to look at the case for and against cutting the minimum wage but the real difference would only be made to prices generally when all other wages and expenses go down pro rata. Cutting it only puts pressure at low and menial grades and must go arm in arm with everything else taking a cut.

In response to: I was watching Frontline last night and there seems to be a lot of people looking to cut the minimum wage, especially people in the catering and restaurant business.

Restaurants have to pay 8% on top of the minimum wage to their employees, plus 2% PRSI on top of that.

But do you think if the minimum wage was dropped, would it really get Ireland out of this mess, would it even help? In my opinion, it would make things worse. People dont have money as it is, and a cut to the minimum wage, i'm sure you would see a lot of people drawing the dole instead of working.

Opinions people....... I'm against dropping the minimum wage
Jan 19, 2010 12:21 PM CST Minimum Wage
scriobhneoir
scriobhneoirscriobhneoirCork, Ireland85 Threads 2 Polls 3,276 Posts
robpacciani: Well she told me she has her own business, hence why i took it up that way scribs..


Oh yeah I know, but I think she was talking about when she was working for someone else. Maybe I picked her up wrong.dunno
Jan 19, 2010 12:22 PM CST Minimum Wage
robpacciani
robpaccianirobpaccianiGalway, Ireland211 Threads 3 Polls 5,134 Posts
scriobhneoir: Oh yeah I know, but I think she was talking about when she was working for someone else. Maybe I picked her up wrong.


Maybe i picked it up wrong scribs. handshake
Jan 19, 2010 12:22 PM CST Minimum Wage
Godsgift
GodsgiftGodsgiftEnnis, Clare Ireland251 Threads 13 Polls 10,040 Posts
robpacciani: Haha, hey i am a scaffolder. Well was Bit of a drop 21 an hour to 3 dude


And backdate it 10 years so you owe the country a fortune. I'll soon sort out the ecconomy.laugh
Jan 19, 2010 12:22 PM CST Minimum Wage
areyoureadytogo
areyoureadytogoareyoureadytogotipperary/offaly, Tipperary Ireland35 Threads 1 Polls 2,024 Posts
im just saying our minimum wage is one of the best payed in europe.when i started working back 10years ago their was no minimum wage i was lucky to earn 6pounds back then
Kalimera: Cut? Is only €8.65 an hour, how could you expect anyone to work for less than that?
Jan 19, 2010 12:24 PM CST Minimum Wage
Godsgift
GodsgiftGodsgiftEnnis, Clare Ireland251 Threads 13 Polls 10,040 Posts
Losty: Let us all get one thing clear; it is one thing to look at the case for and against cutting the minimum wage but the real difference would only be made to prices generally when all other wages and expenses go down pro rata. Cutting it only puts pressure at low and menial grades and must go arm in arm with everything else taking a cut.


Just a pity we can no longer devalue our currency.
Jan 19, 2010 12:25 PM CST Minimum Wage
Keeneland
KeenelandKeenelandDublin, Ireland19 Threads 3 Polls 1,993 Posts
scriobhneoir: Oh yeah I know, but I think she was talking about when she was working for someone else. Maybe I picked her up wrong.


I think she was Scrib. As I understand it she is saying after getting qualifacations she was enployed. When employed she was only earning just above minimum wage and resented people with no qualifications earning nearly as much as her.
Bit of a silly arguement in my opinion. If she had really good qualifacations it's not the people on minimum wages fault her emplyer was under paying her.dunno
Post Comment - Post a comment on this Forum Thread

Stats for this Thread

1,938 Views
75 Comments
by robpacciani (211 Threads)
Created: Jan 2010
Last Viewed: May 2
Last Commented: Jan 2010

Share this Thread

We use cookies to ensure that you have the best experience possible on our website. Read Our Privacy Policy Here