436,937!!!!!!!!!! (40)
puggle: to become a doctor youve to do atleast 7 yrs then more before your an attending.. all in college at the highest level!
the same applies for most other important fields or positions in society....
now! and heres the crux of the matter...
these so called leaders or law makers(and breakers) are not required to do any college or degree for to run for gov.
its ridiculous in this modern day and age...imo
a family political name, a sporting past, or wealthy backers seems to be the only criteria..
yes i know most are drafted through clubs and cummans in 1st yr of college, but their chosen field of study could have no bearing on any political facts or decission making..
imo... a 3 yr course/degree level in a defined field..say social studys.. allows after degree obtained to run for dáil éireann..
granted many are intelligent well educated men and women...
but should it not be the very best that run the country?
i for one.. would love to see a proper c.v. in the future before i give them the job(my vote is the interview process!)
we`ll keep getting what we deserve untill this fundamental discrepancy is corrected...jmo mind!
the same applies for most other important fields or positions in society....
now! and heres the crux of the matter...
these so called leaders or law makers(and breakers) are not required to do any college or degree for to run for gov.
its ridiculous in this modern day and age...imo
a family political name, a sporting past, or wealthy backers seems to be the only criteria..
yes i know most are drafted through clubs and cummans in 1st yr of college, but their chosen field of study could have no bearing on any political facts or decission making..
imo... a 3 yr course/degree level in a defined field..say social studys.. allows after degree obtained to run for dáil éireann..
granted many are intelligent well educated men and women...
but should it not be the very best that run the country?
i for one.. would love to see a proper c.v. in the future before i give them the job(my vote is the interview process!)
we`ll keep getting what we deserve untill this fundamental discrepancy is corrected...jmo mind!
I agree there should be more of a tight rein on the elected canditates, i even think that some of the independents would do us a better job as they live in the real views and situations we all face daily.
When is the last time Cowen, Harney or any of them has lived in the real peoples world?
Not in last 20 years i reckon, they should be put on basic salary for a month and given a flat to live in with basics, then let them decide how to run the country.. thats what i think
sukatai: I agree there should be more of a tight rein on the elected canditates, i even think that some of the independents would do us a better job as they live in the real views and situations we all face daily.
When is the last time Cowen, Harney or any of them has lived in the real peoples world?
Not in last 20 years i reckon, they should be put on basic salary for a month and given a flat to live in with basics, then let them decide how to run the country.. thats what i think
When is the last time Cowen, Harney or any of them has lived in the real peoples world?
Not in last 20 years i reckon, they should be put on basic salary for a month and given a flat to live in with basics, then let them decide how to run the country.. thats what i think
You are right there. The fact is the vast majority of politicans don't know what its like to struggle. They grew up in comfortable middle class famalies and think they had to struggle in college because they had to buy Supermarket Brands.
They came from comfortable middle class famalies and a middle aged, middle class men and women in suits who have lost touch with the real people of the country.
Keeneland: You are right there. The fact is the vast majority of politicans don't know what its like to struggle. They grew up in comfortable middle class famalies and think they had to struggle in college because they had to buy Supermarket Brands.
They came from comfortable middle class famalies and a middle aged, middle class men and women in suits who have lost touch with the real people of the country.
They came from comfortable middle class famalies and a middle aged, middle class men and women in suits who have lost touch with the real people of the country.
Well said
look theleader of our small country took a 50 k pay cut and he is still on more than obama the president of the states .........
need anymore be said about politics in this country 
need anymore be said about politics in this country wehttam2010: look theleader of our small country took a 50 k pay cut and he is still on more than obama the president of the states ......... need anymore be said about politics in this country
Yes a hell of a lot can be said
NAMA Breakdown per Financial Institution
Billions Land & Development Loans Associated Loans Total Billions
AIB €24.1
ANGLO €28.4
BOI €15.5
EBS €0.8
INBS €8.3
TOTAL €77.1
NAMA Asset Type
Billions
Land & Development €49.4 64%
Associated Loans €27.7 36%
Well for a counry that's broke we are giving the above to the banks that got us into this mess.
Billions Land & Development Loans Associated Loans Total Billions
AIB €24.1
ANGLO €28.4
BOI €15.5
EBS €0.8
INBS €8.3
TOTAL €77.1
NAMA Asset Type
Billions
Land & Development €49.4 64%
Associated Loans €27.7 36%
Well for a counry that's broke we are giving the above to the banks that got us into this mess.
sukatai: Yes a hell of a lot can be said
cool il leave you to it so coz most people seem to like saying .and not doing
im going for a few 
have fun lads
give us a shout wen u have the country on its feet again
FullIrish: An bhfuil cheapann tu sasanach?
Ni cheapann
Ni cheapann
sukatai: im not sayin everyone pofited but most did,dont forget shop keepers and most civil servants,both my teacher pals earn good money too and most people workin for mulinationals earned collosal money ,my pal in I.B.M. is still earnin crazy money
some of the bankers deserve to go to prison thoughIf that happens we will just end paying for there stay while there yet again, they have taking eneough out of our pockets as it is
i dont mind payinsome of the bankers deserve to go to prison thoughIf that happens we will just end paying for there stay while there yet again, they have taking eneough out of our pockets as it is
blipper2000: i dont mind payin
I'd be in there before them if i had my ways, great facilities they have these days, and cheaper than hostel, plus i'd learn a trade without the fas course.
sukatai: I'd be in there before them if i had my ways, great facilities they have these days, and cheaper than hostel, plus i'd learn a trade without the fas course.
send them over to one of those thai prisonsblipper2000: send them over to one of those thai prisons
Now your talking,
one way ticket for them, even make a man of harney,, not that she needs much encouragement in that depo
sukatai: I'd be in there before them if i had my ways, great facilities they have these days, and cheaper than hostel, plus i'd learn a trade without the fas course.
Depends were you're sent really. If you're sent to Castlerea you will have your own little Home to share with another prisoner. Wouldn't fancy The Joy, Limerick , Cork or Port Laois though.
Sloppin out doesn't take my fancy. And definitely would not want to end up in Arbour Hill with the nonces.Shelton Abbey, Wheatfield, Laughan House or Clover Hill might not be too bad.
sukatai: Now your talking,
one way ticket for them, even make a man of harney,, not that she needs much encouragement in that depo
maybe she is a manone way ticket for them, even make a man of harney,, not that she needs much encouragement in that depo
Keeneland: Depends were you're sent really. If you're sent to Castlerea you will have your own little Home to share with another prisoner. Wouldn't fancy The Joy, Limerick , Cork or Port Laois though. Sloppin out doesn't take my fancy. And definitely would not want to end up in Arbour Hill with the nonces.
Shelton Abbey, Wheatfield, Laughan House or Clover Hill might not be too bad.
Shelton Abbey, Wheatfield, Laughan House or Clover Hill might not be too bad.
Ah i wouldn't mind limerick,, close to home
or portlaois, met john and the boys for some craic, but i wont never take top bunksukatai: Ah i wouldn't mind limerick,, close to home or portlaois, met john and the boys for some craic, but i wont never take top bunk
Limerick and Cork are a no no for a man from Dublin.
Keeneland: Limerick and Cork are a no no for a man from Dublin.
I suppose thats like a tipp man having no joy in the joy either, would defo want bottom bunk there,, incase something shoved in me back when asleep
sukatai: I suppose thats like a tipp man having no joy in the joy either, would defo want bottom bunk there,, incase something shoved in me back when asleep
True. The Joy is so over crowded now you might be on the floor on a skinny plastic matress. No shelter from the bucket splash down there.
Keeneland: True. The Joy is so over crowded now you might be on the floor on a skinny plastic matress. No shelter from the bucket splash down there.
And they dare call it the joy
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the same applies for most other important fields or positions in society....
now! and heres the crux of the matter...
these so called leaders or law makers(and breakers) are not required to do any college or degree for to run for gov.
its ridiculous in this modern day and age...imo
a family political name, a sporting past, or wealthy backers seems to be the only criteria..
yes i know most are drafted through clubs and cummans in 1st yr of college, but their chosen field of study could have no bearing on any political facts or decission making..
imo... a 3 yr course/degree level in a defined field..say social studys.. allows after degree obtained to run for dáil éireann..
granted many are intelligent well educated men and women...
but should it not be the very best that run the country?
i for one.. would love to see a proper c.v. in the future before i give them the job(my vote is the interview process!)
we`ll keep getting what we deserve untill this fundamental discrepancy is corrected...jmo mind!