My heart and feelings goes for the heroes of the Flotilla Aid who have sacrificed there lives for humanity. My love and prayers for their families. May the heroes lay in peace.
steveurfriend: My heart and feelings goes for the heroes of the Flotilla Aid who have sacrificed there lives for humanity. My love and prayers for their families. May the heroes lay in peace.
Soft, sweet and fuzzy sentiment and I would second it would I know no better... But tell me one thing, how is it that they're "heroes"? They haven't done anything except getting killed... Wouldn't the correct noun be "Martyr"?
Grandepensees: Soft, sweet and fuzzy sentiment and I would second it would I know no better... But tell me one thing, how is it that they're "heroes"? They haven't done anything except getting killed... Wouldn't the correct noun be "Martyr"?
Heroes = sacrificed own life for the cause of others, for justice, for humanity...
steveurfriend: My heart and feelings goes for the heroes of the Flotilla Aid who have sacrificed there lives for humanity. My love and prayers for their families. May the heroes lay in peace.
It's not over yet. The Irish vessel the M.V Rachel Corrie is still on its way to Gaza. It has been told that it will be 'boarded' and stopped but so far so good.
My thoughts are with the crew and volunteers that come from many countries.
LusciousLibra: It's not over yet. The Irish vessel the M.V Rachel Corrie is still on its way to Gaza. It has been told that it will be 'boarded' and stopped but so far so good.
My thoughts are with the crew and volunteers that come from many countries.
I am worried for the faith of the 11 crews on the irish ship.. I hope the same mistakes are not committed again by the evil forces!
Grandepensees: Soft, sweet and fuzzy sentiment and I would second it would I know no better... But tell me one thing, how is it that they're "heroes"? They haven't done anything except getting killed... Wouldn't the correct noun be "Martyr"?
simple like this:
Those people lost their life trying to help people in need.
They had guts to raise against raw power that terrorize other people.
AlbertaghostCultural Wasteland, Alberta Canada5,914 posts
Steevyv: simple like this:
Those people lost their life trying to help people in need.
They had guts to raise against raw power that terrorize other people.
That's more than enough.
I salute them.
Actually they tried to circumnavigate Israeli security which, is an act of war.
Israel had offered to allow them to have the cargo inspected and then, it would be delivered to Gaza. The people on the ship didn't want to do that, they wanted to illegally land in Gaza.
Israel on Thursday said a flotilla of activist aid boats bound for Gaza was an "outright provocation," saying however that the organizers of the aid convoy were invited to unload their cargo at the Israeli port of Ashdod, where it would be transferred to Gaza following an inspection.
Albertaghost: Actually they tried to circumnavigate Israeli security which, is an act of war.
Israel had offered to allow them to have the cargo inspected and then, it would be delivered to Gaza. The people on the ship didn't want to do that, they wanted to illegally land in Gaza.
Those were European ships in international waters and assault on them is an act of war against Europa and NATO.
There is no allowed possibility that Israel, or anybody else, can supervise Europeans ships in international waters and limit their rights to flow free where ever they want except if Israel, or somebody else, wishes to declare war to NATO and Europa.
Not Israel, not anybody.
Israel has ships and airplanes too, and we can cancel their right to flow and fly too. Anywhere in the globe.
We shall see who needs whom.
Israel world or world Israel.
Israel, as you say, needs nobody and can live alone. O.k. We shall see what will happen when nothing and nobody won't come in and out from Israel. And if you count with U.S. we shall see what will be their choice: partnership in NATO with Europa or terroristic government of Israel?
Ghetoization of Gaza is an act of terrorism , the same way as it is occupation of Palestinian territories against UN resolutions and Israel, as terrorist organization , has no right to appeal on protection of international law .
AlbertaghostCultural Wasteland, Alberta Canada5,914 posts
Steevyv: .........
Those were European ships in international waters and assault on them is an act of war against Europa and NATO.
They had set sail with the intent of provoking a reaction from Israel and knew there was a blockade in place. Israel has every right to stop them prior to entering her waters and, given that they had publicly and privately stated their intent to break the blockade and were sailing directly for it and, ignored warnings they were subject to boarding to prevent that.
In short, Israel is at war and, is responsible for the Gaza and Israeli coast. Knowing there was a state of war and a blockade in effect those ships chose to try to break the blockade and stated as such both verbally and by their actions therefore, they are then subject to military action.
Those were European ships in international waters and assault on them is an act of war against Europa and NATO.
There is no allowed possibility that Israel, or anybody else, can supervise Europeans ships in international waters and limit their rights to flow free where ever they want except if Israel, or somebody else, wishes to declare war to NATO and Europa.
Not Israel, not anybody.
Israel has ships and airplanes too, and we can cancel their right to flow and fly too. Anywhere in the globe.
We shall see who needs whom.
Israel world or world Israel.
Israel, as you say, needs nobody and can live alone. O.k. We shall see what will happen when nothing and nobody won't come in and out from Israel. And if you count with U.S. we shall see what will be their choice: partnership in NATO with Europa or terroristic government of Israel?
Ghetoization of Gaza is an act of terrorism , the same way as it is occupation of Palestinian territories against UN resolutions and Israel, as terrorist organization , has no right to appeal on protection of international law .
Albertaghost: They had set sail with the intent of provoking a reaction from Israel and knew there was a blockade in place. Israel has every right to stop them prior to entering her waters and, given that they had publicly and privately stated their intent to break the blockade and were sailing directly for it and, ignored warnings they were subject to boarding to prevent that.
In short, Israel is at war and, is responsible for the Gaza and Israeli coast. Knowing there was a state of war and a blockade in effect those ships chose to try to break the blockade and stated as such both verbally and by their actions therefore, they are then subject to military action.
These self-described martyrs for Allah are free to unload their cargo at Ashdod. End of story.
Albertaghost: Actually they tried to circumnavigate Israeli security which, is an act of war.
Try again, chump. Israel is committing a war crime, a crime against humanity as it was declared at Nuremburg, by preventing food or medical supplies to get in, or injured people to leave. Including the Red Cross.
If the boats trying to enter had anything other than food or medical supplies, why didn't Israel present them? Because they didn't find any. The boats contained supplies to feed and treat people; Israel attempt to spin lies only works on the gullible willing to believe, like yourself.
Israel is trying to turn Gaza into the Lodz Ghetto. I guess they know from experience how effective starving out a population can be.
AlbertaghostCultural Wasteland, Alberta Canada5,914 posts
K_rational: Try again, chump. Israel is committing a war crime, a crime against humanity as it was declared at Nuremburg, by preventing food or medical supplies to get in, or injured people to leave. Including the Red Cross.
Israel has a blockade going on and, allowed the ships to dock at Ashod where the supplies would be off loaded and distributed by the UN. Like they would be at this very moment except, guess what chump?
K_rational: Try again, chump. Israel is committing a war crime, a crime against humanity as it was declared at Nuremburg, by preventing food or medical supplies to get in, or injured people to leave. Including the Red Cross.
If the boats trying to enter had anything other than food or medical supplies, why didn't Israel present them? Because they didn't find any. The boats contained supplies to feed and treat people; Israel attempt to spin lies only works on the gullible willing to believe, like yourself.
Israel is trying to turn Gaza into the Lodz Ghetto. I guess they know from experience how effective starving out a population can be.
LusciousLibra: It's not over yet. The Irish vessel the M.V Rachel Corrie is still on its way to Gaza. It has been told that it will be 'boarded' and stopped but so far so good.
My thoughts are with the crew and volunteers that come from many countries.
Rachel Corrie was a beautiful young woman from Olympia, WA in North America where she attended Evergreen State College. She was wearing a bright orange vest and peacefully protesting the destruction of a Doctor's home when an Israeli soldier driving an armored, air-conditioned, 30-ton Caterpillar bulldozer deliberately squashed and killed her like a Palistinian insect.
Aboard the 1200-ton ship bearing her name are Mairead McGuire, the Irish Nobel Peace Price laureate and Dennis Halliday, former head of the UN's Oil-for-Food program in Iraq.
Many Israeli people are now protesting their own gov's actions, claiming that "we are no longer defending Israel, we are defending the seige."
Most of those murdered were shot at very close range.
One of those murdered was shot at a range of two to ten centimetres, approximately one to four inches for Americans.
Point blank range. That's not self-defense, that's an execution.
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Oh get lost! of course it was close range!! are you blind aswell as dumb?? did you not watch that the IDF were being battered by muslim and so called peace loving people with METAL BARS AND ANYTHING THE COULD GET THEIR HANDS ON!! so IDF had to defend themselvs and there was no choice but to do what they did which was shoot. do you really think IDF wanted to shoot people when all they wanted to do was check the boat? it goes to show that bloody floatilla was hiding something otherwise they wouldnt have started to hit the IDF for no reason. so think and understand the facts before you quote that it was an EXECUTUION! if you were in the IDF and it was happening to you i think you would shoot save your own life and dont even dare to say you wouldnt!!!! as you would not let them beat you to death. IDIOT!!!!
Jun 7, 2010 5:36 AM CST Rest in Peace - Flotilla aid heroes
emannigolJossakin Pirkanmaalla, Southern Finland Finland356 Posts
emannigolJossakin Pirkanmaalla, Southern Finland Finland356 posts
You guys are really fanatics. This thread has shown that if not anything else.
Shooting armed enemy combatants to their backs and back of their heads from point blank range in battle field would also be at least questionable. However, when it's done to civilians aboard vessel in international waters it's heroism.
emannigol: You guys are really fanatics. This thread has shown that if not anything else.
Shooting armed enemy combatants to their backs and back of their heads from point blank range in battle field would also be at least questionable. However, when it's done to civilians aboard vessel in international waters it's heroism.
Might have been sensible to post a differnt comment on this thread, you used the exact comment on another Also it shows your ignorance the fact folk got shot at point blank range is due to the Geography of the ship.....Also the fact the "crew" attacked the boarding party withe the weapons they had. Foolish and the outcome was inevetible.....Not that it was good for the Israeli's but it gave Hamas a propoganda coup.....Probably what this ill-fated blocade run was designed to do....JMO
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May the heroes lay in peace.