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Jun 14, 2010 6:58 AM CST Health and Safety Rules - Declaration of war against them
Steve5721
Steve5721Steve5721La Zenia, Murcia Spain72 Threads 2 Polls 4,564 Posts
All I can say is 'ABOUT EFFING TIME'



DAVID Cameron will today declare war on the "crazy" health and safety rules which have fuelled Britain's compensation culture.
The PM will unveil a major review of legislation. The decision comes amid growing fury over potty rules that ban conkers in the playground or stop cops trying to save people who are drowning. Thousands of school trips and events are also being cancelled due to excessive red tape and spiralling insurance costs.

Mr Cameron said: "The rise of the compensation culture over the last ten years is a real concern, as is the way health and safety rules are sometimes applied.

"We need a sensible new approach that makes clear these laws are intended to protect people, not overwhelm businesses with red tape."

The review will be headed by ex-Tory Cabinet minister Lord Young of Graffham.

He said: "Over the last five years the NHS has paid £8billion in compensation but only a third has gone to patients - the rest goes to lawyers and referral agencies."

He was particularly concerned that "ambulance-chasing" legal firms were fuelling the problem.

Lord Young stressed there had been three cases in two years where people had drowned after police said rules meant they could not attempt to rescue them.

The current rules have also seen bizarre payouts, including £15,000 to a woman trespasser who hurt herself falling into a moat at Carlisle Castle.

A Devon primary school scrapped a pancake race after insurance costs quadrupled.

Lord Young, who wants to see changes within a year, said: "There are so many stupid cases of pancake races being banned and so on.

"I'm just trying to put some common-sense back into health and safety."

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Jun 14, 2010 7:01 AM CST Health and Safety Rules - Declaration of war against them
boomboom_uk
boomboom_ukboomboom_ukglasgow, Central, Scotland UK51 Threads 3,257 Posts
maybe they can start paying the ones they infected with their "tainted blood" some compenstation they have wriggled out of that one for the past 28 yrs...wine
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Jun 14, 2010 7:03 AM CST Health and Safety Rules - Declaration of war against them
Steve5721
Steve5721Steve5721La Zenia, Murcia Spain72 Threads 2 Polls 4,564 Posts
boomboom_uk: maybe they can start paying the ones they infected with their "tainted blood" some compenstation they have wriggled out of that one for the past 28 yrs...


yes, the money should go to PROPER compensation...not like the ones mentioned above....or those burglars that claim compo for getting shot robbing a farmer.
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Jun 14, 2010 7:05 AM CST Health and Safety Rules - Declaration of war against them
Veritaas
VeritaasVeritaasLondon, Greater London, England UK2 Threads 5,839 Posts
boomboom_uk: maybe they can start paying the ones they infected with their "tainted blood" some compenstation they have wriggled out of that one for the past 28 yrs...


Been going on way too long that has BB. thumbs up hug
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Jun 14, 2010 7:07 AM CST Health and Safety Rules - Declaration of war against them
Englishman55
Englishman55Englishman55Salisbury, Wiltshire, England UK31 Threads 2 Polls 6,405 Posts
It's about bloody time. thumbs up
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Jun 14, 2010 7:24 AM CST Health and Safety Rules - Declaration of war against them
boomboom_uk
boomboom_ukboomboom_ukglasgow, Central, Scotland UK51 Threads 3,257 Posts
Steve5721: You come from the wrong country...you should have been an immigrant and you'd have had it all. Change your relgion to muslim, they'll pay you then.


I`ve got a sneaky suspicion that they are holding out to see if the treatment is successful..not much chance of that tho without the proper care and treatment..phoned the gp this morning as I`m concerned about large painful lumps that have appeared on my neck they cant see me for two weeks the surgery`s very busy..my daughter went in to collect my meds..and the surgery was full of immigrants..their children/sisters/cousins and their interpretors..says it all doesnt it..dunno
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Jun 14, 2010 7:31 AM CST Health and Safety Rules - Declaration of war against them
Steve5721
Steve5721Steve5721La Zenia, Murcia Spain72 Threads 2 Polls 4,564 Posts
boomboom_uk: I`ve got a sneaky suspicion that they are holding out to see if the treatment is successful..not much chance of that tho without the proper care and treatment..phoned the gp this morning as I`m concerned about large painful lumps that have appeared on my neck they cant see me for two weeks the surgery`s very busy..my daughter went in to collect my meds..and the surgery was full of immigrants..their children/sisters/cousins and their interpretors..says it all doesnt it..


Yes....and this is why I believe in tightening up of the immigration laws and make them pass an English test.
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Jun 14, 2010 7:46 AM CST Health and Safety Rules - Declaration of war against them
Steve5721
Steve5721Steve5721La Zenia, Murcia Spain72 Threads 2 Polls 4,564 Posts
boomboom_uk: I`ve experienced that too..my friend had to let her mum die alone on new yrs eve because there was a whole family of those "other" sleepin in the intensive care rest room for families they stayed in the room for 3 weeks making it impossible for anyone else to spend the night with their family..


Sad state of affairs ennit it kiddo?
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Jun 14, 2010 8:14 AM CST Health and Safety Rules - Declaration of war against them
jac379
jac379jac379pontyclun, South Glamorgan, Wales UK25 Threads 3 Polls 12,293 Posts
Yes, the efficacy of health and safety and the compensation culture should be questioned.

Yes, it's wrong that at a time in your life when you are most vulnerable and least able to, you are put in a position where you have to fight for the support that is yours by right.

Call me cynical, but...

I question the agenda that the government has in tackling the Health and Safety issue. Its an unpopular phenomenon, so will gain popular support, but how much revenue will it ultimately produce that can be spent more appropriately? What will be the net effect for their efforts?

I also question linking this with the issue of immigration. Living on benefits in squalid conditions is no easy life, so what environment are immigrants escaping that makes this the preferable option? Why do we have a blame culture that relies on a "common enemy"? If you don't speak English and you can't vote, you have no voice, therefore, its easy to target this group of people. Its not so easy to target the powerful and wealthy, (expenses? tax fraud?).

How much are we being lead by the nose? For as long as people are focussing on issues such as immigration, are we missing the real issues at stake?

I speak as a second generation immigrant (who's mother never got to vote) and the parent of a mixed race child.

(Who's feeling a little huffy, tee hee hee).

Jac xxx
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Jun 14, 2010 9:21 AM CST Health and Safety Rules - Declaration of war against them
Abram
AbramAbramGoshen, Ohio USA9 Threads 2,077 Posts
Has we all know, the health code makes everyone feel good, while its rules, and regulations protect, and increase the possessions of those claiming to be of the cure. When a society has been sold on the idea that, if they pay a little to help someone in need, they will feel a lot better then if they had to pay more, do it themselves. You might notice how the many Christian churches applaud these steps by the government, has if done by the hand of God. I don't remember Jesus saying, "Take it easy and let the government claim glory for the duties I assigned you with." cool I would take this war directly to the source of the problem. SATAN and his LEGION!
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Jun 14, 2010 11:12 AM CST Health and Safety Rules - Declaration of war against them
Steve5721
Steve5721Steve5721La Zenia, Murcia Spain72 Threads 2 Polls 4,564 Posts
patmac: Agree with most of what is said here but, I cannot get away from the fact we let it happen and stood back whilst our kids were prevented from enjoying play and the fun we had as kids because of the H & S rules.....And as for the health service I could write reams......Cleaners who cannot clean above a certain height, cannot move furniture,nurses who cannot feed patients all because of H & S the list is endless....


I agree Pat...kids have to wear eye protection to play conkers. Piggyback fights banned. Sack races banned due to H & S. Cops letting people possible drown because they can't go into water more than 6 inches deep because they haven't been trained in water rescue. Can't fly flags in case they fall and hurt someone. Bin men cannot empty bins because the lid is open by an inch.

The list is endless!
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Jun 14, 2010 12:24 PM CST Health and Safety Rules - Declaration of war against them
bjk68
bjk68bjk68Carlow, Ireland5 Threads 890 Posts
When he's finished over there, please please please send him over to us, we need the same changes too. Cheers to a common sense approach.
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Jun 14, 2010 12:26 PM CST Health and Safety Rules - Declaration of war against them
Goddess4u
Goddess4uGoddess4uThe Capital, Greater London, England UK15 Threads 3,131 Posts
Here, here thumbs up
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