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Jun 16, 2010 4:59 AM CST 38 years
homegnome
homegnomehomegnomeBangkok, Central Thailand Thailand24 Threads 1 Polls 161 Posts
Just woke up on this side of the world to find that the British P.M. Cameron has apologised for the murder of 14 men and boys on what came to be known as "Bloody Sunday". What a waste of tax-payers' money ($300m)for them to finally admit what the rest of the world has known since that fateful day.
It's just too late for people to say "well done" to the British Govt for something they should have done the day after.They shouldn't have opened fire in the first place as it was a peaceful demonstration. They shouldn't be in that part of Ireland full stop.
The families have suffered for far too long and I'm sure it's not compensation that they're after. No amount of money can return to them what they have lost.
A truth commission is what is needed in that part of Ireland. Plenty more apologies are owed to many many more families but it will take a long long time for them to own up where murders were involved.
May the ghosts of the deceased come back to haunt the commanding officers of the parachute regiment every night of their lives. May they die ROARING!!!!!!
Jun 16, 2010 5:21 AM CST 38 years
Alpha01
Alpha01Alpha01Wexford, Ireland24 Threads 2 Polls 2,497 Posts
Better late than never.
I agree with all sentiments you're showing but the ability to turn around and say "we did wrong" is something that is generally overlooked in politics so I'm happy at has at last been apologised for.
There have been many (and in many cases, worse) atrocities in human history that have never been apologised for or even acknowledged. I don't agree with them being here either but history is full of occupation and horrible acts committed to the natves to keep the land that they "owned". (Just look at USA and Australia).
I say Fair play to the British government for saying they were wrong.
Late?.... yes!
But it's an important step to bringing not only peace but less animosity towards our closest neighbours.
Jun 16, 2010 5:31 AM CST 38 years
Alexei23
Alexei23Alexei23Ireland, Limerick Ireland32 Threads 6 Polls 1,455 Posts
Certainly was not a waste of tax payers money. If the price of finally bringing a conclusion and closure to the events on that day cost $200m then so be it. The Saville Report is a 5,000 page document with some 30 million words, it took 12 years to complete, it's extremely complex, thorough and worth every penny. We have tribunals here in Ireland in relation to our Planning system, corruption etc that have approached the 700m mark and have not come to any conclusions...the Saville Report is by far value for money and no price is too high for the truth. The fact that a conservative PM could stand up and apologise to the people of Derry on behalf of the British government and it's people is a clear indication of how far we have come from the days when citizens in the north where treated like vermon, 2nd class citizens, and where shot dead because a few british soliders thought that these people didn't have the same basic human rights as them...200m for a job well done by the british legal system is well worth it...
Jun 16, 2010 7:44 AM CST 38 years
hoopy1973
hoopy1973hoopy1973carlow, Carlow Ireland2 Threads 46 Posts
IT has taken 38 years to admit something they have known from that very day.Why could they not get somebody totally independent for the enquiry.The amount of cover ups and evidence destroyed is disgraceful.The full truth was never going to be admitted.
Jun 16, 2010 7:49 AM CST 38 years
Godsgift
GodsgiftGodsgiftEnnis, Clare Ireland251 Threads 13 Polls 10,040 Posts
hoopy1973: IT has taken 38 years to admit something they have known from that very day.Why could they not get somebody totally independent for the enquiry.The amount of cover ups and evidence destroyed is disgraceful.The full truth was never going to be admitted.



I think it was necessary for the sake of record and history that the coommission was held and that its report was published as the true and accurate account of what happened that day. It's a pity that McGuiness and Adams can't do the same! They have blood on their hands too and not all of it belonging to their percieved enemies.
Jun 16, 2010 7:49 AM CST 38 years
crotalus667
crotalus667crotalus667Dublin, Ireland14 Threads 2 Polls 564 Posts
it was money wasted when it was despratly needed else where
Jun 16, 2010 8:06 AM CST 38 years
stanley8m
stanley8mstanley8mkildare, Kildare Ireland156 Threads 7 Polls 5,341 Posts
I think it is good for the families of those murdered on bloody sunday that their relative innocense has been proven and acknowledged, fair play to david cameron for publicly apologising. What I don't get is the two million price tag and even worse the hundreds of millions our own tribunals and inquiries have cost. You don't have to be a genius to figure out that whoever is doing this type of work are taking the piss, they are being handed a blank cheque told to do whatever it takes and stretching the job out and adding work for themselves to make money, the rates charged by barristers on tribunals is a disgrace, if you were to get a builder to work on your house and he came back with a huge bill you would question it, want to know exactly where the money was spent and a breakdown of the charges, why is it a different rule for these professionals.
Jun 16, 2010 8:14 AM CST 38 years
Alexei23
Alexei23Alexei23Ireland, Limerick Ireland32 Threads 6 Polls 1,455 Posts
Well it's the law making the rules for themselves, albeit their rates are too high, they still deserve a hefty pay cheque...The work that some of these guys pull off is nothing short of phenomenal, the huge number of hours, dedication and brain work employed is what you pay for. Not only that but these guys sometimes have to learn other proffessions inside out for a case..Of course there's always going to be the ones that take advantage of the system...stricter regualtion is needed but 200 to 300 euro an hour would not be unreasonable in my opinion considering professional witnesses charge close to that themselves...
Jun 16, 2010 8:27 AM CST 38 years
stanley8m
stanley8mstanley8mkildare, Kildare Ireland156 Threads 7 Polls 5,341 Posts
Alexei23: Well it's the law making the rules for themselves, albeit their rates are too high, they still deserve a hefty pay cheque...The work that some of these guys pull off is nothing short of phenomenal, the huge number of hours, dedication and brain work employed is what you pay for. Not only that but these guys sometimes have to learn other proffessions inside out for a case..Of course there's always going to be the ones that take advantage of the system...stricter regualtion is needed but 200 to 300 euro an hour would not be unreasonable in my opinion considering professional witnesses charge close to that themselves...


Thanks but 300 euro an hour!!!! Jesus if I charged a tenth of that I would be branded a robber. Should have listened to the christian brothers and spent more time studying and less time chasing girls, ah no, on second thoughts chasing girls is much more fun than money, laugh
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