Did you know Albert Einstein actually believed in God (509)
Iuchi_Zien: Why did I come into existence? Because my parents didn't use protection! What am I doing with my existence? EXACTLY WHAT I WANT TO! I don't need anybody or anything to justify who I am or what I do.
Well put
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drisslk:
You can make a lot of chemical equations success, but no one can create in his laboratory with those chemical equations life.
You can make a lot of chemical equations success, but no one can create in his laboratory with those chemical equations life.
Technology is actually moving ever closer to that. We already have cloning, stem cell research, test tube babies. Isn't that 'playing' god? Not that difficult if you have the know how.
drisslk: Was you been before in Amazonie??? what do you know about history of people living there?? Note only that we, human beings have reason and we can can observe, reason, analyze, synthesize and infer. And mr, i don't try to force my beliefs on you, i ask you just to reason with me why those animals serve us and why we cannot create, using simple molecules, something wich can breath.
According to christian beliefs, if you're not baptized, go to church etc you're condemned to hell. So these tribesmen in the amazon are condemned just by the fact that they're isolated there. Seems hardly fair on them is it, after all god put them there according to your belief.
As for not forcing your beliefs on anyone, I have yet to meet a christian who doesn't try to do that. The usual hypocrisy...
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jampet: tell that to the 20 million homeless people in pakistan!!- religious people have an answer for everything- and it changes from moment to moment to suit the question. If there is a god- and people have to suffer unspeakable torture to get to his heaven( ...baby P springs to mind- google it if you are not familiar) then that heaven is not a place i would ever want to be.
Jesus was homeless for a time. God's best son had not "where to lay his head." Are the pakistani people greater than the son of God? You can help the homeless pakistani people if you desire. No people don't have to endure unspeakable torture to get to heaven. We lived before we came here and had choices before we had a body. I can assure you that Baby P had a choice where he would be placed, bless his soul. My heart goes out to the child and personally I'm grateful he's with Jesus now who can wipe away all his tears.
jampet: i ( as a 'good' person who sees people on this earth as opposed to a possible afterlife as important) would rather suffer the most horrendous hell possible for immortality if it meant a baby like him would not go through the torture he did-
surely a good religious person would forgo heaven in order to allow that?? or is being with your god more important than not allowing an innocent to be burned, bitten and tortured to death??
surely a good religious person would forgo heaven in order to allow that?? or is being with your god more important than not allowing an innocent to be burned, bitten and tortured to death??
Why aren't you asking his mother why he had to bear such torture? It is she who is responsible for his pain, since she was irresponsible as a mother. The 'blame' needs to go squarely on the shoulders of the perpetrators. If you don't want to be in heaven God is listening as he never forces one to heaven.
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wulfen: Reading this I can't help but imagine some elderly guy with a huge flowing beard, sitting on a deck chair on some white sandy beach under the shade of palm trees, sipping on his drink surrounded by a couple of skimpily clad female angels (hey, it's my imagination after all, lol); casting the occasional disinterested glance at us poor mortals.
Really lady, you need to steer away from your religion. It's messing up your brain BIG time!
Really lady, you need to steer away from your religion. It's messing up your brain BIG time!
You've just described Conrad and yourself in 20 years or so. Trust me when I say God is much more compassionate.
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wulfen: No they haven't come up with proof mate. Go and check.
As for Moses, there is NO archeological evidence that he existed. The current view is that the 'moses' of the bible is a mix of Jewish leaders that over the centuries have been merged in one as the story was told and re-told.
As for jesus, he did exist as a historical figure, but surely he was no demi-god or anything supernatural. Just one of the countless messiahs that walked around Judea at the time.
The Israelites don't believe in jesus matey......
As for Moses, there is NO archeological evidence that he existed. The current view is that the 'moses' of the bible is a mix of Jewish leaders that over the centuries have been merged in one as the story was told and re-told.
As for jesus, he did exist as a historical figure, but surely he was no demi-god or anything supernatural. Just one of the countless messiahs that walked around Judea at the time.
The Israelites don't believe in jesus matey......
I am an israelite. I am from the tribe of Joseph. I believe in Jesus Christ and know he is the literal Son of God.
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wulfen and femjkw:
your intellectual dance is fascinating
your intellectual dance is fascinating
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wulfen: Technology is actually moving ever closer to that. We already have cloning, stem cell research, test tube babies. Isn't that 'playing' god? Not that difficult if you have the know how.
According to christian beliefs, if you're not baptized, go to church etc you're condemned to hell. So these tribesmen in the amazon are condemned just by the fact that they're isolated there. Seems hardly fair on them is it, after all god put them there according to your belief.
As for not forcing your beliefs on anyone, I have yet to meet a christian who doesn't try to do that. The usual hypocrisy...
According to christian beliefs, if you're not baptized, go to church etc you're condemned to hell. So these tribesmen in the amazon are condemned just by the fact that they're isolated there. Seems hardly fair on them is it, after all god put them there according to your belief.
As for not forcing your beliefs on anyone, I have yet to meet a christian who doesn't try to do that. The usual hypocrisy...
Everyone has a chance to hear the savior's gospel either in this world or the spirit world. You will be judged by actions mostly not beliefs.
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plainlyjune: wulfen and femjkw:
your intellectual dance is fascinating
your intellectual dance is fascinating
Sometimes it's even fun but not always.
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femjkw: Jesus was homeless for a time. God's best son had not "where to lay his head." Are the pakistani people greater than the son of God? .
Are you referring to the 3 years he spent traveling across Judea as a hobo?
That was his own personal choice, and as far as I know, he always found disciples willing to house him for the night.
As for your average Pakistani dude, he didn't ask to be homeless.
There lies the HUGE difference. I doubt you'll be able to spot it though
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femjkw: You've just described Conrad and yourself in 20 years or so. Trust me when I say God is much more compassionate.
Nah, I don't like facial hair.
Plus in 20 years time I'll still be 52, still strong enough not to laze about except on holiday
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wulfen: Yeah, I'm having fun trying to reason with her, I don't think she's getting it the same way though
can't reason with faith
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femjkw: Sometimes it's even fun but not always.
when you guys finally do agree on something, i'll have the weddingbells ready 
don't mind me, i'm just a tease
have fun fem
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wulfen: Technology is actually moving ever closer to that. We already have cloning, stem cell research, test tube babies. Isn't that 'playing' god? Not that difficult if you have the know how.
According to christian beliefs, if you're not baptized, go to church etc you're condemned to hell. So these tribesmen in the amazon are condemned just by the fact that they're isolated there. Seems hardly fair on them is it, after all god put them there according to your belief.
As for not forcing your beliefs on anyone, I have yet to meet a christian who doesn't try to do that. The usual hypocrisy...
According to christian beliefs, if you're not baptized, go to church etc you're condemned to hell. So these tribesmen in the amazon are condemned just by the fact that they're isolated there. Seems hardly fair on them is it, after all god put them there according to your belief.
As for not forcing your beliefs on anyone, I have yet to meet a christian who doesn't try to do that. The usual hypocrisy...
I have to say this again: i do not force anyone my beliefs. I ask you just like i do to think about questions.
So, you can see a corpse where many enzymatic reactions are engaged, however, these reactions lead to rot and do not bring life.
Do you think that one day humans may give life to the dead?? you do not know as I do not know what it's "The Soul" and what's this thing wich make us breath and live because a chemical reaction can create a "matter", labor or energy but not a life???
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drisslk: I have to say this again: i do not force anyone my beliefs. I ask you just like i do to think about questions.
So, you can see a corpse where many enzymatic reactions are engaged, however, these reactions lead to rot and do not bring life.Do you think that one day humans may give life to the dead?? you do not know as I do not know what it's "The Soul" and what's this thing wich make us breath and live because a chemical reaction can create a "matter", labor or energy but not a life???
So, you can see a corpse where many enzymatic reactions are engaged, however, these reactions lead to rot and do not bring life.Do you think that one day humans may give life to the dead?? you do not know as I do not know what it's "The Soul" and what's this thing wich make us breath and live because a chemical reaction can create a "matter", labor or energy but not a life???
Actually when a body rots, it's nutrient and elements are absorbed by the earth, thus helping plant life grow. It's the cycle of nature, nothing supernatural about it.
Ever heard the saying that flowers grow more over battlefields? There's truth in it you know.
As for the soul, when an x-ray will finally detect a soul, I'll start believing in one, thanks.
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plainlyjune: when you guys finally do agree on something, i'll have the weddingbells ready
don't mind me, i'm just a tease
have fun fem
don't mind me, i'm just a tease
have fun fem
We actually did agree on a point once on another thread.
It was about gay marriage, both she and I agreed that you can be against gays adopting kids, without that necessarily meaning that you hate them; simply you don't agree with them adopting kids.
Does that count?
I'd keep the weddingbells under wraps though, marriage is not in my sights with anyone soon
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wulfen: Actually when a body rots, it's nutrient and elements are absorbed by the earth, thus helping plant life grow. It's the cycle of nature, nothing supernatural about it.
Ever heard the saying that flowers grow more over battlefields? There's truth in it you know.
As for the soul, when an x-ray will finally detect a soul, I'll start believing in one, thanks.
Ever heard the saying that flowers grow more over battlefields? There's truth in it you know.
As for the soul, when an x-ray will finally detect a soul, I'll start believing in one, thanks.
You did not think how we can give life to the dead ?? and please, don't discuss the words, but the idea, please "So, you can see a corpse where many enzymatic reactions are engaged, however, these reactions lead to rot and do not bring life TO THIS CORPSE"
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You can make a lot of chemical equations success, but no one can create in his laboratory with those chemical equations life.
Have you been before in Amazonie??? what do you know about history of people living there?? Note only that we, human beings have reason and we can can observe, reason, analyze, synthesize and infer. And mr, i don't try to force my beliefs on you, i ask you just to reason with me why those animals serve us and why we cannot create, using simple molecules, something wich can breath.