is there such a thing.....Can you call someone that you never met a friend or love(r),-or is it just a substitute for the lack of the "real" thing....As friends&love(r),comes in the shape of a stonedead computer-screen,-I´m amazed when peopletalk about it like it should be for real.....After all,-this is a virtual world,-the real one´s out there,and how many have actually met those "friends",or will meet....Amazed how many people reveal their feelings&wishes&dreams to the world,amazed that they´re surprised when they find out that their dreampartner was a bluff,amazed how naive many are........A Dreamworld...where love has gone digital and friends become electric....,is it time to say goodbye to the old way.....Old-fashioned me speaking....
jonntLost in the Woods, East Sussex, England UK3,691 posts
magna1: is there such a thing.....Can you call someone that you never met a friend or love(r),-or is it just a substitute for the lack of the "real" thing....As friends&love(r),comes in the shape of a stonedead computer-screen,-I´m amazed when peopletalk about it like it should be for real.....After all,-this is a virtual world,-the real one´s out there,and how many have actually met those "friends",or will meet....Amazed how many people reveal their feelings&wishes&dreams to the world,amazed that they´re surprised when they find out that their dreampartner was a bluff,amazed how naive many are........A Dreamworld...where love has gone digital and friends become electric....,is it time to say goodbye to the old way.....Old-fashioned me speaking....
An interesting thread ,topic etc , hope you get some enlighteng feed back on how some see this Cyber World
jonnt: An interesting thread ,topic etc , hope you get some enlighteng feed back on how some see this Cyber World
Thank´s for nice reply...It makes mr often wonder how easily fooled many are....I have friends as proof.....unfortunately.....Many hilarious stories....
tinypixiestoke on trent, Staffordshire, England UK311 posts
magna1: is there such a thing.....Can you call someone that you never met a friend or love(r),-or is it just a substitute for the lack of the "real" thing....As friends&love(r),comes in the shape of a stonedead computer-screen,-I´m amazed when peopletalk about it like it should be for real.....After all,-this is a virtual world,-the real one´s out there,and how many have actually met those "friends",or will meet....Amazed how many people reveal their feelings&wishes&dreams to the world,amazed that they´re surprised when they find out that their dreampartner was a bluff,amazed how naive many are........A Dreamworld...where love has gone digital and friends become electric....,is it time to say goodbye to the old way.....Old-fashioned me speaking....
The internet maybe a virtual world,but the people writing the words on a screen are real.......I for one cannot be fooled by fakes, wannabes, scammers or liars.........you forgot to mention the good old telephone, audios, videos and the webcam these three devices bring in more "reality" into the cyber world........as for love, yes its real if you and the person you fall in love with are honest and genuine and can tell the difference between reality in the real world and the reality in the cyber world
tinypixiestoke on trent, Staffordshire, England UK311 posts
tinypixie: The internet maybe a virtual world,but the people writing the words on a screen are real.......I for one cannot be fooled by fakes, wannabes, scammers or liars.........you forgot to mention the good old telephone, audios, videos and the webcam these three devices bring in more "reality" into the cyber world........as for love, yes its real if you and the person you fall in love with are honest and genuine and can tell the difference between reality in the real world and the reality in the cyber world TP4G
tinypixie: The internet maybe a virtual world,but the people writing the words on a screen are real.......I for one cannot be fooled by fakes, wannabes, scammers or liars.........you forgot to mention the good old telephone, audios, videos and the webcam these three devices bring in more "reality" into the cyber world........as for love, yes its real if you and the person you fall in love with are honest and genuine and can tell the difference between reality in the real world and the reality in the cyber world TP4G
Good to hear!!One of the reasons I posted this thread,-was after my friend(female),-after 6 month´s of dating her "dreamprince" found out he was married..How on earth he kept that secret is beyond me...She´s broken now,-and I do understand her,-especially after lending him money..2 yrs ago,-a friends friend(or whatever),-she was dating like crazy thru national dating-sites,even though she was infected with HIV.....Can we really trust anyone 100%...
englisheleganceBirmingham, West Midlands, England UK3,025 posts
magna1: Good to hear!!One of the reasons I posted this thread,-was after my friend(female),-after 6 month´s of dating her "dreamprince" found out he was married..How on earth he kept that secret is beyond me...She´s broken now,-and I do understand her,-especially after lending him money..2 yrs ago,-a friends friend(or whatever),-she was dating like crazy thru national dating-sites,even though she was infected with HIV.....Can we really trust anyone 100%...
No, no one can ever be sure of anyone on a dating website, i could say i was the Queen of Sheba, but we have to use our intuitition and rely on it.
tinypixiestoke on trent, Staffordshire, England UK311 posts
magna1: Good to hear!!One of the reasons I posted this thread,-was after my friend(female),-after 6 month´s of dating her "dreamprince" found out he was married..How on earth he kept that secret is beyond me...She´s broken now,-and I do understand her,-especially after lending him money..2 yrs ago,-a friends friend(or whatever),-she was dating like crazy thru national dating-sites,even though she was infected with HIV.....Can we really trust anyone 100%...
This is why people should ask each other for proof of some sort........the more you know about each other the easier you can learn to trust......exactly the same way as in real life......nothing wrong in asking to see a pic/video of their passport/drivers licence etc etc.......using common sense on the internet is a MUST
englishelegance: No, no one can ever be sure of anyone on a dating website, i could say i was the Queen of Sheba, but we have to use our intuitition and rely on it.
Queen of Sheba...well...I´m sure people would buy that....But intuition can be completely false...and it can be a danger as well....Unfortunately,-there´s been some ugly stories here(Sweden),because of dating-sites,-rapes,muggings,assault....So watch your step....CuteChris might be Chainsaw Charlie...
My best friend met his wife online and knew he'd fallen in love with her before they met. They have a daughter and have been married 6 years, happily i might add.
jonntLost in the Woods, East Sussex, England UK3,691 posts
Would like to reply to all thats been said by all on here after reading all the thread,Some of it i agree with and some i dont sooooo , ill put my 2 pence worth in and see what you make of this ..
I have lived amongst people in the reality world were i am now after splitting with my ex after 24 yrs , i worked in road haulage for 30 yrs and had my own company for 1 or 2 weeks at a time ,, thinking that everyone else in reality was the same as me .. Just an ordinary man in an ordinary world .
I am now off the road as a job and am a small time musician ,venues are pubs ,i have never met as many people suffering from unhappyness, mental stress issues ,un logical ,some doped up with medication ,disfunctional ,dreamers ,wannabees with out a chance in hell as there life is one big loop of errors .Lies they consider the truth .
Thats the reality world ..
Now the Cyber world gives them even greater opportunities to even inflate on there mis giving in the reality world ..
Its a mine field .
Sitting behind there computer screens in the comfort of there living room making up another life for themselves to get them out the one there already in ..
And before some come back at me with negativities and think im talking about every one on these sites ,i am not
I do have faith in some that use these sites in all honesty
But those who think they have everything worked out and can figure the untruths out , i say to you ,be aware and never underestimate people ,thats your first weakness ,,over confidense..
tinypixie: The internet maybe a virtual world,but the people writing the words on a screen are real.......I for one cannot be fooled by fakes, wannabes, scammers or liars.........you forgot to mention the good old telephone, audios, videos and the webcam these three devices bring in more "reality" into the cyber world........as for love, yes its real if you and the person you fall in love with are honest and genuine and can tell the difference between reality in the real world and the reality in the cyber world TP4G
jonnt: Would like to reply to all thats been said by all on here after reading all the thread,Some of it i agree with and some i dont sooooo , ill put my 2 pence worth in and see what you make of this ..
I have lived amongst people in the reality world were i am now after splitting with my ex after 24 yrs , i worked in road haulage for 30 yrs and had my own company for 1 or 2 weeks at a time ,, thinking that everyone else in reality was the same as me .. Just an ordinary man in an ordinary world .
I am now off the road as a job and am a small time musician ,venues are pubs ,i have never met as many people suffering from unhappyness, mental stress issues ,un logical ,some doped up with medication ,disfunctional ,dreamers ,wannabees with out a chance in hell as there life is one big loop of errors .Lies they consider the truth .
Thats the reality world ..
Now the Cyber world gives them even greater opportunities to even inflate on there mis giving in the reality world ..
Its a mine field .
Sitting behind there computer screens in the comfort of there living room making up another life for themselves to get them out the one there already in ..
And before some come back at me with negativities and think im talking about every one on these sites ,i am not I do have faith in some that use these sites in all honesty
But those who think they have everything worked out and can figure the untruths out , i say to you ,be aware and never underestimate people ,thats your first weakness ,,over confidense..
Thank´s for your nice point of views,-and I recognise what you´re saying....Lonely people with empty hearts...finally got a chance to make an impact on the world as Internet came around...Changing the bar to the living-room,-but still as lonely....,and hearts still lonely.But this time around(like you wrote),-the world would listen to them,-armed with a PC,-the world was within reach.Making "friends" that you never had before,speaking to women that never even would look at you,people listening to you,-something they´ve never done before.....But just outside that door,-the real world begins....and stepping out,-means bringing you back to the old,hostile,anynomous world,-where no-one pays attention....Yes sir,-I fully agree...Thank´s!!!!!
Are Your friends electric? ...and is Your love digital?
Communication is communication is communication. If You don't understand what you're reading in any of anyones many posts, or profiles or messages or poetry or photographs or comments. I would say you have a comprehension problem. (I dont mean you, magna1)
Digital communication brings with it, its own form of syntax. This is the practical side of the discernment. The rest, is up to your feeling of what is being posted, presented, messaged. Put these together - ask pertinent questions - test, test, test - see what you come up with. If it still doesn't 'feel' right, trust that gut feeling, and make the relevant movement - to, or away from.
galaxy15: Are Your friends electric? ...and is Your love digital?Communication is communication is communication. If You don't understand what you're reading in any of anyones many posts, or profiles or messages or poetry or photographs or comments. I would say you have a comprehension problem. (I dont mean you, magna1)
Digital communication brings with it, its own form of syntax. This is the practical side of the discernment. The rest, is up to your feeling of what is being posted, presented, messaged. Put these together - ask pertinent questions - test, test, test - see what you come up with. If it still doesn't 'feel' right, trust that gut feeling, and make the relevant movement - to, or away from.
cheers G4TP
Hello Mr.Galaxy....Well,-as I´m probably ultra-conservative in every aspect of life,-the same goes for love&friendship..NOT claiming that I´m right,-far from it,-but to me those thing´s are something precious...Love...that´s when you feel the scent of your woman,hear her voice,softness of her skin,when she feels ugly,-she´s still the most beautiful person you´ve ever seen,those whispers in your ear,-telling you precious secrets never spoken before...Friendship....handshakes,hugs,memories,revealing your deepest wishes,thoughts&dreams,-and in complete trust,laughter,concern....And to me,-no PC,Skype,chat in the world can replace that,-but it´s just me talking here...And hand on heart,-does anyone here on CS or elsewhere on the net,really give a damn if you(noy you Galaxy in person)&me lives or dies...???
bestbeforesomewhere, Dorset, England UK4,701 posts
magna1: Good to hear!!One of the reasons I posted this thread,-was after my friend(female),-after 6 month´s of dating her "dreamprince" found out he was married..How on earth he kept that secret is beyond me...She´s broken now,-and I do understand her,-especially after lending him money..2 yrs ago,-a friends friend(or whatever),-she was dating like crazy thru national dating-sites,even though she was infected with HIV.....Can we really trust anyone 100%...
The above happens all the time whether connections are made on on a dating site or in the "real world" .It's surely a matter of being realistic and grounded regarding these sites,which in many cases have been extremely successful in uniting people.
Some people can get carried away by the written word or a voice on the phone,and in some cases are extremely gullible.Fools rush in where angels fear to tread comes to mind. We all have to take responsibility for our actions,and be aware of the dangers.
bestbefore: The above happens all the time whether connections are made on on a dating site or in the "real world" .It's surely a matter of being realistic and grounded regarding these sites,which in many cases have been extremely successful in uniting people.
Some people can get carried away by the written word or a voice on the phone,and in some cases are extremely gullible.Fools rush in where angels fear to tread comes to mind. We all have to take responsibility for our actions,and be aware of the dangers.
Good day,-and nice post...I´ll meet you halfway on this one,-IRL,-you´ll have the chance to look into that persons eye,hear that voice,feel the scent,-the way he expresses,body language....Yes,unfortunately,-people get cheated all the time,-whether IRL or the net,-but in real life you´ll notice right away if something´s wrong...And a pic/profile text can be so far from the truth,writing all kinda nonsense,-while in IRL,you´ll discover quite fast who´s real or not...I´m sure you´re a nice&decent woman,-so let me ask,-do you consider people you´re "talking" to here as "friends"???I´m sure you don´t,-you´re far to intelligent for that...Best regards....
bestbeforesomewhere, Dorset, England UK4,701 posts
magna1: Good day,-and nice post...I´ll meet you halfway on this one,-IRL,-you´ll have the chance to look into that persons eye,hear that voice,feel the scent,-the way he expresses,body language....Yes,unfortunately,-people get cheated all the time,-whether IRL or the net,-but in real life you´ll notice right away if something´s wrong...And a pic/profile text can be so far from the truth,writing all kinda nonsense,-while in IRL,you´ll discover quite fast who´s real or not...I´m sure you´re a nice&decent woman,-so let me ask,-do you consider people you´re "talking" to here as "friends"???I´m sure you don´t,-you´re far to intelligent for that...Best regards....
Even in the real world people's body language can be misread.Ask anyone who thought that they had met the man of their dreams, only to find out he was the biggest scoundrel on the face of the earth,and visa versa for men too.
When you "fall" for someone [for want of a more worthy expression] your sense of reasoning can disappear and you are left with feelings that are sometimes beyond your normal powers of deduction.
The world has opened it's doors to us through the age of electronics,and whilst this is a good thing that we can touch base with others,it is just that,a contact with the outside world unachievable before laptops etc.
As for "friendships" on line,sorry to disappoint you but I have made some wonderful contacts over the 4 years on C.S. I may not, or never will meet them in the flesh so to speak,but still consider them to be friends. I now have a vast collection of "electronic pals".
magna1: Hello Mr.Galaxy....Well,-as I´m probably ultra-conservative in every aspect of life,-the same goes for love&friendship..NOT claiming that I´m right,-far from it,-but to me those thing´s are something precious...Love...that´s when you feel the scent of your woman,hear her voice,softness of her skin,when she feels ugly,-she´s still the most beautiful person you´ve ever seen,those whispers in your ear,-telling you precious secrets never spoken before...Friendship....handshakes,hugs,memories,revealing your deepest wishes,thoughts&dreams,-and in complete trust,laughter,concern....And to me,-no PC,Skype,chat in the world can replace that,-but it´s just me talking here...And hand on heart,-does anyone here on CS or elsewhere on the net,really give a damn if you(noy you Galaxy in person)&me lives or dies...???
Yes Tinypixie does! And I would certainly care if Tinypixie dies.
I understand though that you are talking about mere physical proximity. I agree PC/Skype/Chat indeed cannot replace what you are talking of. But - adoration, love, the sense of smell etc all happens in that other place.
There is, that certain someone, somewhere - who would die for you, and vice versa. They may not be as close in geographical distance - but, once you recognise this self-imposed limitation; all doors open - all you need to do is walk through them.
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