Beauty Pagents for childern ( Archived) (42)

Aug 23, 2010 5:12 PM CST Beauty Pagents for childern
jac379
jac379jac379pontyclun, South Glamorgan, Wales UK25 Threads 3 Polls 12,293 Posts
davpk10: that's a bit differant I think....and kids do enjoy acting and school plays and such...


That was my point.

You can fulfil the need for theatre, drama, playing and attention without it costing a penny and without it causing emotional damage.

Jac xxx
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Aug 23, 2010 5:14 PM CST Beauty Pagents for childern
swordfish44
swordfish44swordfish44bournemouth, Dorset, England UK1 Threads 97 Posts
this couple on TV are just a normal middle income family....they spend 8 grand a year at least on this...

make-up...heels...hair extentions...the works....
do you think they do this for themselves or do the kids really enjoy it...[/quote}

They definitely do it for themselves, a child loves to dress up and play, that's normal, but these adults are taking things too far I think. It must put these kids under enormous pressure of having to try and please their parents and not let them down... Kids love getting dirty too and just being kids.
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Aug 23, 2010 5:15 PM CST Beauty Pagents for childern
cherrybrandy
cherrybrandycherrybrandycambridge, Cambridgeshire, England UK24 Threads 7,473 Posts
my grandma was very good with her sawing machine(i believe its antique now-old hand operated "singer"),she loved to create little girly dresses for me..all frilly and ribbons..i only endured that,because i loved her..when my family moved away,i took charge of my wardrobe,which meant shorts,Tee-s,sweats and very short hair..not all children like to be dolled up..
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Aug 23, 2010 5:23 PM CST Beauty Pagents for childern
Veritaas
VeritaasVeritaasLondon, Greater London, England UK2 Threads 5,839 Posts
davpk10: I think if you keep it un wraps it is find....But the problem lays (IMO) as a few will make it impossible for some to compete on an even keel ...so the ones that spend tend to win ....I would think...


And it is the competition that these young children are put under at such a young age is simply not right, just for the sake of looking, in many cases just awful, so unnaturally plastic. It is almost as though they have lost their youth before their time.

Why do parents want to see their children dressed up like that? conversing
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Aug 23, 2010 5:25 PM CST Beauty Pagents for childern
DodgeBabe
DodgeBabeDodgeBabepotsdam, New York USA31 Threads 2,299 Posts
cherrybrandy: my grandma was very good with her sawing machine(i believe its antique now-old hand operated "singer"),she loved to create little girly dresses for me..all frilly and ribbons..i only endured that,because i loved her..when my family moved away,i took charge of my wardrobe,which meant shorts,Tee-s,sweats and very short hair..not all children like to be dolled up..


Yep. I did that too..

And I grew up alright..uh oh grin

These parents do it for themselves, not the kids in my opinion. They use the excuse that it teaches the kids "competition is healthy"..doh

Yes, it can be. But encourage them to learn competitive skills on the baseball pitch, or the gymnastics hall, not plastered in make up and hair pieces..

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Aug 23, 2010 5:27 PM CST Beauty Pagents for childern
Amity
AmityAmityDodging Daggers, Wiltshire, England UK49 Threads 6,217 Posts
Veritaas: And it is the competition that these young children are put under at such a young age is simply not right, just for the sake of looking, in many cases just awful, so unnaturally plastic. It is almost as though they have lost their youth before their time.

Why do parents want to see their children dressed up like that?


thumbs up Agreed.

I think it is normal for children to want to dress up, put make up on...wear high heels..but to put a child into a competition based on this screams out wrong!

Some of the outfits these children wear are appalling.
And i have to question wtf goes on in a parents head to allow this done publicly?
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Aug 23, 2010 5:29 PM CST Beauty Pagents for childern
Laura25
Laura25Laura25Somewhere, New York USA50 Threads 6 Polls 8,178 Posts
DodgeBabe: I consider it all a little distateful.

Us women spend enough of our life wearing make up in order to conform and "fit in".

To plaster a 5 year old in it is, to me, obscene and unnecessary.

I have never seen any program where this pagentry has occured where the child is anything but a Real Madam..


I agree with your viewpoint, A.

Yes! 'Obscene' is the word I was looking for...


doh


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Aug 23, 2010 5:31 PM CST Beauty Pagents for childern
davpk10
davpk10davpk10somewhere, New York USA23 Threads 1 Polls 2,934 Posts
Veritaas: And it is the competition that these young children are put under at such a young age is simply not right, just for the sake of looking, in many cases just awful, so unnaturally plastic. It is almost as though they have lost their youth before their time.

Why do parents want to see their children dressed up like that?
I also wonder what the motives of those that put these shows in place...


It would seem to be a place for child abusers to congregate to....but I could be bias as I really know little of it all..dunno
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Aug 23, 2010 5:33 PM CST Beauty Pagents for childern
davpk10
davpk10davpk10somewhere, New York USA23 Threads 1 Polls 2,934 Posts
I will say some of these pagents run on the scale of Miss America...Miss Teen pagents....ect.....
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Aug 23, 2010 5:34 PM CST Beauty Pagents for childern
Nakedpackage
NakedpackageNakedpackageBradford on Avon, Wiltshire, England UK1 Threads 746 Posts
davpk10: I also wonder what the motives of those that put these shows in place...It would seem to be a place for child abusers to congregate to....but I could be bias as I really know little of it all..


Thats what everyone is thinking but not saying,

I do recall something a few years back about a girl of about 5 being abducted, cant recall the details.
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Aug 23, 2010 5:37 PM CST Beauty Pagents for childern
davpk10
davpk10davpk10somewhere, New York USA23 Threads 1 Polls 2,934 Posts
Nakedpackage: Thats what everyone is thinking but not saying,

I do recall something a few years back about a girl of about 5 being abducted, cant recall the details.
look at my OP .....thumbs up handshake
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Aug 23, 2010 5:38 PM CST Beauty Pagents for childern
cherrybrandy
cherrybrandycherrybrandycambridge, Cambridgeshire, England UK24 Threads 7,473 Posts
children nowadays a deprived of childhood,as it is..
sorry,i really dont understand parents who will push and push their children to fulfill their own ambitions..
children,who have some talants,normally will find it on their own..perfect,if the parents are supportive and encourage their development..
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Aug 23, 2010 5:41 PM CST Beauty Pagents for childern
davpk10
davpk10davpk10somewhere, New York USA23 Threads 1 Polls 2,934 Posts
cherrybrandy: children nowadays a deprived of childhood,as it is..
sorry,i really dont understand parents who will push and push their children to fulfill their own ambitions..
children,who have some talants,normally will find it on their own..perfect,if the parents are supportive and encourage their development..
not much differant than the sports dads eather I would guess...conversing
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Aug 23, 2010 5:43 PM CST Beauty Pagents for childern
Laura25
Laura25Laura25Somewhere, New York USA50 Threads 6 Polls 8,178 Posts
cherrybrandy: my grandma was very good with her sawing machine(i believe its antique now-old hand operated "singer"),she loved to create little girly dresses for me..all frilly and ribbons..i only endured that,because i loved her..when my family moved away,i took charge of my wardrobe,which meant shorts,Tee-s,sweats and very short hair..not all children like to be dolled up..

laugh

You're so adorable, Cherry, accommodating you grandma quirks and stuff... grin


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Aug 23, 2010 5:44 PM CST Beauty Pagents for childern
Veritaas
VeritaasVeritaasLondon, Greater London, England UK2 Threads 5,839 Posts
davpk10: I also wonder what the motives of those that put these shows in place...It would seem to be a place for child abusers to congregate to....but I could be bias as I really know little of it all..


One could imagine that child abusers do take an interest in such, just because there are children involved. That is enough to lure the most unsavory of beings either to the actual show itself, or, just to watch it on TV.

As to the organisers and promoters of such shows there must be alot of money involved in it too. And people love to make money out of just about anything.
conversing
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Aug 23, 2010 5:46 PM CST Beauty Pagents for childern
Veritaas
VeritaasVeritaasLondon, Greater London, England UK2 Threads 5,839 Posts
Amity: Agreed.

I think it is normal for children to want to dress up, put make up on...wear high heels..but to put a child into a competition based on this screams out wrong!

Some of the outfits these children wear are appalling.
And i have to question wtf goes on in a parents head to allow this done publicly?


It is like saying my child is more talented and beautiful than yours. Almost like the parents themselves had their childhood stripped away from them in some form or another.
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Aug 23, 2010 5:46 PM CST Beauty Pagents for childern
davpk10
davpk10davpk10somewhere, New York USA23 Threads 1 Polls 2,934 Posts
Veritaas: One could imagine that child abusers do take an interest in such, just because there are children involved. That is enough to lure the most unsavory of beings either to the actual show itself, or, just to watch it on TV.

As to the organisers and promoters of such shows there must be alot of money involved in it too. And people love to make money out of just about anything.
Yes money would be a huge attraction I would think...conversing
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Aug 23, 2010 5:50 PM CST Beauty Pagents for childern
Nakedpackage
NakedpackageNakedpackageBradford on Avon, Wiltshire, England UK1 Threads 746 Posts
davpk10: she was found days later in a room off the cellar......the crime is still un-solved....however this is not the subject and would rather it not turn in this direction as many do place thier childern in pagents regularly and I fined it maybe upsetting to them that enjoy it at a healthy level ...


I do recall the family came under suspicsion, not solved thats why I dont recall what happened.

Anyway, back to the thread.

Parents Dreams not the kids.
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Aug 23, 2010 5:52 PM CST Beauty Pagents for childern
davpk10
davpk10davpk10somewhere, New York USA23 Threads 1 Polls 2,934 Posts
Nakedpackage: I do recall the family came under suspicsion, not solved thats why I dont recall what happened.

Anyway, back to the thread.

Parents Dreams not the kids.
thanks for understanding....handshake
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Aug 23, 2010 6:00 PM CST Beauty Pagents for childern
DodgeBabe
DodgeBabeDodgeBabepotsdam, New York USA31 Threads 2,299 Posts
Veritaas: It is like saying my child is more talented and beautiful than yours. Almost like the parents themselves had their childhood stripped away from them in some form or another.



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