bestbeforesomewhere, Dorset, England UK4,701 posts
Raynew1959: I don't have a problem if they are here legally. I just wish they would learn English and use it when dealing with those who don't speak Spanish
You should come to the U.K.! You have to speak Polish to get a job here.
jeepers: The winter I spent there it was all dark, cold and it rained for about a month non stop. I had the time of my life though. Spent a year there back in the seventies.
Ah, that was way back in the dark days of our socialist past! (hehe just joking, communists can't change the weather as yet )
Jokes apart, you must have really encountered a one in a million rainy winter mate. We do get rainy days in winter of course, but it rarely rains for a whole day continuously, let alone a whole month.
A couple of years ago was such an exception, but I can't remember any other winters like that over here.
deadbutwhyeast, Eastern Province Saudi Arabia1,295 posts
jeepers: So tell me something my friend, why are you blaming this on the Latinos. Sounds to me that the problem is with procedures.
The driving force is corporate greed for lower labor costs and bigger profit margins, IMHO. I don't agree with outsourcing/importing cheap labor, but I wouldn't blame the workers either.
VeritaasLondon, Greater London, England UK5,839 posts
Well in the UK we have nationalities from all over the world. And London is a prime example of that.
However, after returning from abroad in my early twenties, things never felt the same, or have done to date. But I do not put that down to the people who live in the UK.
jeepersCowpet Bay, Saint Thomas Virgin Islands (USA)10,968 posts
wulfen: Ah, that was way back in the dark days of our socialist past! (hehe just joking, communists can't change the weather as yet )
Jokes apart, you must have really encountered a one in a million rainy winter mate. We do get rainy days in winter of course, but it rarely rains for a whole day continuously, let alone a whole month.
A couple of years ago was such an exception, but I can't remember any other winters like that over here.
Just my luck, I pick the worst year in the century to live there.
I loved it though. Quite a life changing experience. Ever hear of De LaSalle College ?
mnowsa: Back to Bangladesh(my mother land) after living more than 12 years in the USA. It looks like i am lost in my own country. Has anybody ever had that kind of feeling?
jeepersCowpet Bay, Saint Thomas Virgin Islands (USA)10,968 posts
wulfen: I think it should come from the Latinos themselves to try and learn English if they want to settle in the USA no?
It's very easy to blame everything on the authorities, but sometimes people don't make things easier for themselves either.
The whole system is messed up, and I agree that if you live in a country you should speak the language and follow immigration procedure. It's just that generalized statement struck a nerve is all.
VeritaasLondon, Greater London, England UK5,839 posts
wulfen: I think it should come from the Latinos themselves to try and learn English if they want to settle in the USA no?
It's very easy to blame everything on the authorities, but sometimes people don't make things easier for themselves either.
A firm believer if you are actually living in a foreign country, then yes, one should make the effort to learn the language. It is vital, and helps build bridges and understanding of other cultures, that might otherwise just be left in tatters.
PollyWollyJust North of Amsterdam.., North Holland Netherlands3,889 posts
Raynew1959: I don't have a problem if they are here legally. I just wish they would learn English and use it when dealing with those who don't speak Spanish
Ahhh! theres ur answer, u dont like em coz ya dont underdstand them......so put ur self in their shoes, go live in a totall different country where english is also not a second language, then come back....then u will know whats its like to be lost..................believe me I know, anyway why dont ya learn Spanish, its the second world speaking lingo of the world......very usefull if u got abroad...
But then again, there are people that just wont change....right???? neither there issues nor there attitude...
PollyWollyJust North of Amsterdam.., North Holland Netherlands3,889 posts
Raynew1959: I don't have a problem if they are here legally. I just wish they would learn English and use it when dealing with those who don't speak Spanish
Ahhh! theres ur answer, u dont like em coz ya dont underdstand them......so put ur self in their shoes, go live in a totall different country where english is also not a second language, then come back....then u will know whats its like to be lost..................believe me I know, anyway why dont ya learn Spanish, its the second world speaking lingo of the world......very usefull if u got abroad...
But then again, there are people that just wont change....right???? neither there issues nor there attitude...
Raynew1959: I don't have a problem if they are here legally. I just wish they would learn English and use it when dealing with those who don't speak Spanish
Yes, and we westerners are reknownd for learning the languages and culures we visit/occupy/buy. I see documentaries where uneducated tribesmen and shepherds from poor villages in central Africa speak English! Yet I wonder how many of our English speaking exiles bothered to learn conversational languages in their adopted countries.
PollyWollyJust North of Amsterdam.., North Holland Netherlands3,889 posts
Godsgift: Yes, and we westerners are reknownd for learning the languages and culures we visit/occupy/buy. I see documentaries where uneducated tribesmen and shepherds from poor villages in central Africa speak English! Yet I wonder how many of our English speaking exiles bothered to learn conversational languages in their adopted countries.
Godsgift: Yes, and we westerners are reknownd for learning the languages and culures we visit/occupy/buy. I see documentaries where uneducated tribesmen and shepherds from poor villages in central Africa speak English! Yet I wonder how many of our English speaking exiles bothered to learn conversational languages in their adopted countries.
I think we'll all soon need Chinese 101!
Well, here in Malta we get to learn Maltese and English as official languages, most of us get to learn Italian from watching TV, and you have to learn at least one other language at secondary school.
If you apply for a front office job in a hotel, you can rest assured you'll be asked what languages you speak, if apart from English & Maltese, you cannot speak fluently at least 2 from French, German, Italian and Spanish you might as well not bother turn up for the interview.
Then again, with tourism being such a big part of our economy, being good at linguistics is a must
PollyWolly: Ahhh! theres ur answer, u dont like em coz ya dont underdstand them......so put ur self in their shoes, go live in a totall different country where english is also not a second language, then come back....then u will know whats its like to be lost..................believe me I know, anyway why dont ya learn Spanish, its the second world speaking lingo of the world......very usefull if u got abroad...
But then again, there are people that just wont change....right???? neither there issues nor there attitude...
Hasta la Vista Hombre,,,,
Yes ok it's difficult to learn a totally new language, but if you go to live in a foreign country where you know they don't speak your native tongue, you should be ready to learn it, else don't bother going there at all.
I don't see why a local should learn a foreign language to accommodate immigrants. Ever heard of the saying, 'When in Rome do as the Romans do?"
Aug 26, 2010 6:15 AM CST Foreigner in my own native country
TrueBlue1986Sale, South Manchester, Cheshire, England UK1,322 Posts
TrueBlue1986Sale, South Manchester, Cheshire, England UK1,322 posts
PollyWolly: Ahhh! theres ur answer, u dont like em coz ya dont underdstand them......so put ur self in their shoes, go live in a totall different country where english is also not a second language, then come back....then u will know whats its like to be lost..................believe me I know, anyway why dont ya learn Spanish, its the second world speaking lingo of the world......very usefull if u got abroad...
But then again, there are people that just wont change....right???? neither there issues nor there attitude...
A migrant adapts to the host nation, a conqueror forces the host nation to adapt to them.
Forcing the majority to change on behalf of the minority is the polar opposite of Democracy. Why should the native have to change his way of life for the benefit of the migrant's 'free choice' to live there?
PollyWollyJust North of Amsterdam.., North Holland Netherlands3,889 posts
wulfen: Yes ok it's difficult to learn a totally new language, but if you go to live in a foreign country where you know they don't speak your native tongue, you should be ready to learn it, else don't bother going there at all.
I don't see why a local should learn a foreign language to accommodate immigrants. Ever heard of the saying, 'When in Rome do as the Romans do?"
I hear ya....i have lived in many foreign countries, and did my best to learn, though some lingo's u just cant learn...lol
yea heard that before.......i just go with the flow..
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You should come to the U.K.! You have to speak Polish to get a job here.