Stephen Hawking: God did not create Universe (223)
gsmonks: Not only is my statement valid, but you a) don't understand what an ad hominem fallacy of logic is, and b) can't spell worth sour apples.
You'll go running for you dictionary in a blind panic now, no doubt, and regurgitate what it says there on this site.
You'll go running for you dictionary in a blind panic now, no doubt, and regurgitate what it says there on this site.
This makes me freaking laugh.
Thanks smart guy
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Stephen Hawking: God did not create Universe.
By stating this he acknowledges that there is or may be a supreme being, but this so called god did not create the universe.
So there is a GOD but he didnt create the universe? did he outsource it? did he let his underlings do it? did satan create it behind his back while god was watching Kate plus eight?
I need to know....
By stating this he acknowledges that there is or may be a supreme being, but this so called god did not create the universe.
So there is a GOD but he didnt create the universe? did he outsource it? did he let his underlings do it? did satan create it behind his back while god was watching Kate plus eight?
I need to know....
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Scientists already have theories possibly pointing at god/ god-like being/ Creator creating the universe.
I saw it on Sci Channel (HD of course). It kind of made sense
A good start no less. I've been analyzing it using my scientific side of my mind without letting my Spiritual side influence it.
I saw it on Sci Channel (HD of course). It kind of made sense
A good start no less. I've been analyzing it using my scientific side of my mind without letting my Spiritual side influence it.
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A gravity vortex?
If there were such a thing, I can assure you that physicists from around the world would be studying it with great interest.
A "gravity vortex"! You apparently don't know that gravity, like light, travels only in a straight line, unless it's passing through a region of curved space. For a "gravity vortex" to exist, an attendant "space vortex" must exist for it to pass through- a preposterous notion because space is a field, not a physical object that can rotate.
You guys are giving me a headache!
If there were such a thing, I can assure you that physicists from around the world would be studying it with great interest.
A "gravity vortex"! You apparently don't know that gravity, like light, travels only in a straight line, unless it's passing through a region of curved space. For a "gravity vortex" to exist, an attendant "space vortex" must exist for it to pass through- a preposterous notion because space is a field, not a physical object that can rotate.
You guys are giving me a headache!
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StressFree: Interesting. I've heard similar concepts---especially about sound vibration/frequency starting creation (similar concept is in the OT- God spoke).
Anyways, where did this model of the universe and creation come from?
I've heard creation exists within existence or Infinity, and that there are multiverses (theoretical physicist Michio Kaku talks about that), meaning that this universe is just a bubble within a larger bubble bordering other bubbles/planes.
Then there is the Hindu idea that the cosmos itself undergoes an immense, indeed an infinite number of deaths and rebirths. -
So many other models as well, and my point is that there may be some truth into ancient scriptures along with today's science---only to be realized in ways that nobody ever imagined.
Anyways, where did this model of the universe and creation come from?
I've heard creation exists within existence or Infinity, and that there are multiverses (theoretical physicist Michio Kaku talks about that), meaning that this universe is just a bubble within a larger bubble bordering other bubbles/planes.
Then there is the Hindu idea that the cosmos itself undergoes an immense, indeed an infinite number of deaths and rebirths. -
So many other models as well, and my point is that there may be some truth into ancient scriptures along with today's science---only to be realized in ways that nobody ever imagined.
In all of these ideas and theories mentioned (even that of steven hawking); don't you believe there can logically be only one truth? Doesn't this point to how fallable we are as humans? I mean so many different ideas and theories mentioned just right in this thread?
No matter what your belief in any of them or anything; I just find it ironic that we can believe that anyone of us could come up with the right conclusion on this one subject. If we do not stand in awe of the wonderment of it all when approaching the matter of infinite and the universe....well there is a word for those who cannot do so......There can only be one truth, and it didn't orginate with fallable mankind who will argue till the cows come home on this one subject alone.
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diogenes: This makes me freaking laugh.
Thanks smart guy
Thanks smart guy
Well, that was downright infantile. Don't you have anything intelligent to say in terms of a comeback?
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diogenes: Leedskanlin was a hermit with only a little education, he did experiments with magnetism. His experiments are largely ignored by science, because of his lack of education, and the lack of intellectuals to champion his "theories".
Oh, He happened to five foot tall, and barely weighed 100 pounds, yet he moved huge pieces of coral, and built a castle out of them...by himself.
The structure in Florida (near a so called gravity vortex) has survived several hurricanes, and features a 9 ton gate that closes to within 1/4 " on each side, and is so perfectly balanced that is can easily be pushed open with one finger.
Scientists can't figure out how he did it...
Just saying
Oh, He happened to five foot tall, and barely weighed 100 pounds, yet he moved huge pieces of coral, and built a castle out of them...by himself.
The structure in Florida (near a so called gravity vortex) has survived several hurricanes, and features a 9 ton gate that closes to within 1/4 " on each side, and is so perfectly balanced that is can easily be pushed open with one finger.
Scientists can't figure out how he did it...
Just saying
That isn't evidence. That is simply an anomaly. Because somebody falls 12,000 Metres without a parachute and then walks nearly 20kms in sub-zero temperatures to the nearest village doesn't mean everybody can. Just because the Incas built stone walls with tolerances so tight it is impossible to slide a penknife blade between them doesn't prove they had laser measuring devices and cutting discs. Scientists haven't figured that one out yet either, so what? are you saying that because somebody falls 12Kms and survives the theory of gravity is wrong?
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irishman1983: prosecco deff not the best italian wine !!!
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Stephen Hawking dies and god says Hello Stephen,...this is when his theory unravels LMAO
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diogenes: Your Mom, cut and pasted you from a monkey's balls.
How's that for ad hominem?
How's that for ad hominem?
Childish insults are the last refuge of fools.
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diogenes: Leedskanlin was a hermit with only a little education, he did experiments with magnetism. His experiments are largely ignored by science, because of his lack of education, and the lack of intellectuals to champion his "theories".
Oh, He happened to five foot tall, and barely weighed 100 pounds, yet he moved huge pieces of coral, and built a castle out of them...by himself.
The structure in Florida (near a so called gravity vortex) has survived several hurricanes, and features a 9 ton gate that closes to within 1/4 " on each side, and is so perfectly balanced that is can easily be pushed open with one finger.
Scientists can't figure out how he did it...
Just saying
Oh, He happened to five foot tall, and barely weighed 100 pounds, yet he moved huge pieces of coral, and built a castle out of them...by himself.
The structure in Florida (near a so called gravity vortex) has survived several hurricanes, and features a 9 ton gate that closes to within 1/4 " on each side, and is so perfectly balanced that is can easily be pushed open with one finger.
Scientists can't figure out how he did it...
Just saying
I like your logic.
And your pink bunny rabbit thinking cap. Too bad a few other people on here don't have them.
(Wearing Donald Boon skunk skin cap with remote control tail)
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Iuchi_Zien: Why does the theory of gravity have to say what gravity is? Why does the lack of knowledge of what gravity is make the theory describing the EFFECTS of gravity any less accurate? Where is your evidence that ANY object under the SOLE force of gravity has fallen in any direction other than down? Yet again the apple will fall upwards because God says so! The theory of Gravity does not require the knowledge of what gravity is or provide solutions for events which HAVE NOT happened.
I can appeal to authority Richard LeFors Clark, PhD...
Or I can cite personal experience. I have performed the "party levitation" that you can read about when you google...or I can further cite another personal experience, witnessed by four others with me. We were playing with a Ouija Board, mostly as a joke, and full of skepticism...the plastic pointer that came with the board (a toy manufactured by Parker Brothers), had six teen hands pressing firmly on it, and I swear to Science, or God, or whomever, and the 3 others who were with me will do the same, that little piece of plastic, levitated about a foot and a half off the table top, with all of our hands pressing downward on it. Can't tell you how, or why, neither can the theory of gravity, but it happened.
Also, I also cited Leedskanlin.
There's others too.
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gsmonks: Childish insults are the last refuge of fools.
That's what you say, because my childish insult was better than yours.
You hadn't refuted my claim against your ad hominem remark. (And it was ad hominem!) You only insulted my spelling. Another example of your ad hominem tactics.
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diogenes: I can appeal to authority Richard LeFors Clark, PhD...
Or I can cite personal experience. I have performed the "party levitation" that you can read about when you google...or I can further cite another personal experience, witnessed by four others with me. We were playing with a Ouija Board, mostly as a joke, and full of skepticism...the plastic pointer that came with the board (a toy manufactured by Parker Brothers), had six teen hands pressing firmly on it, and I swear to Science, or God, or whomever, and the 3 others who were with me will do the same, that little piece of plastic, levitated about a foot and a half off the table top, with all of our hands pressing downward on it. Can't tell you how, or why, neither can the theory of gravity, but it happened.
Also, I also cited Leedskanlin.
There's others too.
Or I can cite personal experience. I have performed the "party levitation" that you can read about when you google...or I can further cite another personal experience, witnessed by four others with me. We were playing with a Ouija Board, mostly as a joke, and full of skepticism...the plastic pointer that came with the board (a toy manufactured by Parker Brothers), had six teen hands pressing firmly on it, and I swear to Science, or God, or whomever, and the 3 others who were with me will do the same, that little piece of plastic, levitated about a foot and a half off the table top, with all of our hands pressing downward on it. Can't tell you how, or why, neither can the theory of gravity, but it happened.
Also, I also cited Leedskanlin.
There's others too.
And this can be repeated again? using other people? in a scientific environment? Because otherwise it is irrelevant. Personal experience does NOT constitute evidence of anything. Your evidence that Leedskanlin (whoever he is) didn't have help is? I have yet hear any scientifically repeatable evidence to prove apples, and anything else, doesn't fall DOWN!
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diogenes: I can appeal to authority Richard LeFors Clark, PhD...
Or I can cite personal experience. I have performed the "party levitation" that you can read about when you google...or I can further cite another personal experience, witnessed by four others with me. We were playing with a Ouija Board, mostly as a joke, and full of skepticism...the plastic pointer that came with the board (a toy manufactured by Parker Brothers), had six teen hands pressing firmly on it, and I swear to Science, or God, or whomever, and the 3 others who were with me will do the same, that little piece of plastic, levitated about a foot and a half off the table top, with all of our hands pressing downward on it. Can't tell you how, or why, neither can the theory of gravity, but it happened.
Also, I also cited Leedskanlin.
There's others too.
Or I can cite personal experience. I have performed the "party levitation" that you can read about when you google...or I can further cite another personal experience, witnessed by four others with me. We were playing with a Ouija Board, mostly as a joke, and full of skepticism...the plastic pointer that came with the board (a toy manufactured by Parker Brothers), had six teen hands pressing firmly on it, and I swear to Science, or God, or whomever, and the 3 others who were with me will do the same, that little piece of plastic, levitated about a foot and a half off the table top, with all of our hands pressing downward on it. Can't tell you how, or why, neither can the theory of gravity, but it happened.
Also, I also cited Leedskanlin.
There's others too.
Balogna! If any of this were true, you'd be front-page news across the globe.
There are a number of big prizes available to anyone who can prove things like the supernatural, anti-gravity, and so on. No one has ever claimed a one of them, despite that some have been available for forty years or so now.
Like religious folk, you're long on talk, but when it comes to putting your money where you mouth is, and doing something to prove your case, you try to bootstrap by talking some more.
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I could care less what some man says. I go by what the Bible says...and it says that God created the heavens and earth. Plus, Satan's only mission is to kill, steal, and destroy any belief in God...so this is just one of his little tricks, and he just happens to be using that guy. No big deal. Stick with the Truth-God did create the earth!
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diogenes: That's what you say, because my childish insult was better than yours.
You hadn't refuted my claim against your ad hominem remark. (And it was ad hominem!) You only insulted my spelling. Another example of your ad hominem tactics.
You hadn't refuted my claim against your ad hominem remark. (And it was ad hominem!) You only insulted my spelling. Another example of your ad hominem tactics.
. . . nor did I stoop to posting a childish insult.
So, you're both a liar and a fool.
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Leyna: I could care less what some man says. I go by what the Bible says...and it says that God created the heavens and earth. Plus, Satan's only mission is to kill, steal, and destroy any belief in God...so this is just one of his little tricks, and he just happens to be using that guy. No big deal. Stick with the Truth-God did create the earth!
"Beware the man of one book."
ancient Roman proverb
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Leyna: I could care less what some man says. I go by what the Bible says...and it says that God created the heavens and earth. Plus, Satan's only mission is to kill, steal, and destroy any belief in God...so this is just one of his little tricks, and he just happens to be using that guy. No big deal. Stick with the Truth-God did create the earth!
YOU GO GIRL!
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Why does the theory of gravity have to say what gravity is? Why does the lack of knowledge of what gravity is make the theory describing the EFFECTS of gravity any less accurate? Where is your evidence that ANY object under the SOLE force of gravity has fallen in any direction other than down? Yet again the apple will fall upwards because God says so! The theory of Gravity does not require the knowledge of what gravity is or provide solutions for events which HAVE NOT happened.