US Women and the Sharia LAW.......... (75)
online today!online today!Conrad73Zurich, Switzerland204 Threads 6 Polls 59,476 Postsmnowsa: Hey conrad, did you ever see a woman roaming in bikini in and around vatican city and city churches? Or have you seen women wearing bikini and roaming in and around synagogue in jerusalem( a place which you revere so much)?
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mnowsa: If your answer is "no", then my question is why not?
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Burqas are mostly worn by Middle Eastern women as an item of fashion, not an item of restraint or conformity. Just like western women try to out-do each other with a new blouse or dress, burqas are purchased because they are the fashion. They come in many different varieties. There's entire websites dedicated to selling all different kinds.
Not to say that some don't wear them because of control freak husbands, but that can be said for any society. There's plenty of American men who won't allow their wife to wear a dress shorter than ankle-length. What's the difference?
What we have here is a classic case of orientalism: a fear, or unwillingness to understand the great differences in culture and tradition from westerners and the rest of the world.
Not to say that some don't wear them because of control freak husbands, but that can be said for any society. There's plenty of American men who won't allow their wife to wear a dress shorter than ankle-length. What's the difference?
What we have here is a classic case of orientalism: a fear, or unwillingness to understand the great differences in culture and tradition from westerners and the rest of the world.
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To: Iuchi_Zien
You may also want to be little more careful when naming any "islamic" country. please keep in mind that islam and muslims are not always necessarily on the same page. syria and turkey are muslim countries but they are not "islamic" countries. According to the most popular islamic thought, one country has to incorporate quranic laws into its constitution if it wants to be considered as an islamic country. neither syria nor turkey has incorporated such laws as yet, as far as i know.
You may also want to be little more careful when naming any "islamic" country. please keep in mind that islam and muslims are not always necessarily on the same page. syria and turkey are muslim countries but they are not "islamic" countries. According to the most popular islamic thought, one country has to incorporate quranic laws into its constitution if it wants to be considered as an islamic country. neither syria nor turkey has incorporated such laws as yet, as far as i know.
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mnowsa: To: Iuchi_Zien
You may also want to be little more careful when naming any "islamic" country. please keep in mind that islam and muslims are not always necessarily on the same page. syria and turkey are muslim countries but they are not "islamic" countries. According to the most popular islamic thought, one country has to incorporate quranic laws into its constitution if it wants to be considered as an islamic country. neither syria nor turkey has incorporated such laws as yet, as far as i know.
Turkey isn't far from it,not with Erdogan tussling around,and Iran next door!You may also want to be little more careful when naming any "islamic" country. please keep in mind that islam and muslims are not always necessarily on the same page. syria and turkey are muslim countries but they are not "islamic" countries. According to the most popular islamic thought, one country has to incorporate quranic laws into its constitution if it wants to be considered as an islamic country. neither syria nor turkey has incorporated such laws as yet, as far as i know.
Seems your Country broke free of some of those restrictive regulations!
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GatorChompin: Burqas are mostly worn by Middle Eastern women as an item of fashion, not an item of restraint or conformity. Just like western women try to out-do each other with a new blouse or dress, burqas are purchased because they are the fashion. They come in many different varieties. There's entire websites dedicated to selling all different kinds.
Not to say that some don't wear them because of control freak husbands, but that can be said for any society. There's plenty of American men who won't allow their wife to wear a dress shorter than ankle-length. What's the difference?
What we have here is a classic case of orientalism: a fear, or unwillingness to understand the great differences in culture and tradition from westerners and the rest of the world.
Not to say that some don't wear them because of control freak husbands, but that can be said for any society. There's plenty of American men who won't allow their wife to wear a dress shorter than ankle-length. What's the difference?
What we have here is a classic case of orientalism: a fear, or unwillingness to understand the great differences in culture and tradition from westerners and the rest of the world.
i couldn't say it any better than you gator! I am tired of saying that each and every society has its own set of laws. no society/cultures in this world is fully "Tolerant" in a sense that they always put some certain "restriction" ( which are accepted and endorsed by the majority as well) on their ways of lives, just like u mentioned about not allowing a wife to wear a dress shorter than ankel length. Now if that kind of "restriction" can still be the sign of a "tolerant" society, then why not some other restriction in another societies?! who decides on the definition of a standard tolerant society?! if all societies follow the same rules/standard with regard to tolerance, then are we also ready to be immersed into one another as just "one" socieity and "one" world?
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GatorChompin: Burqas are mostly worn by Middle Eastern women as an item of fashion, not an item of restraint or conformity. Just like western women try to out-do each other with a new blouse or dress, burqas are purchased because they are the fashion. They come in many different varieties. There's entire websites dedicated to selling all different kinds.
Not to say that some don't wear them because of control freak husbands, but that can be said for any society. There's plenty of American men who won't allow their wife to wear a dress shorter than ankle-length. What's the difference?
What we have here is a classic case of orientalism: a fear, or unwillingness to understand the great differences in culture and tradition from westerners and the rest of the world.
....and where did you gator all this Info from?Not to say that some don't wear them because of control freak husbands, but that can be said for any society. There's plenty of American men who won't allow their wife to wear a dress shorter than ankle-length. What's the difference?
What we have here is a classic case of orientalism: a fear, or unwillingness to understand the great differences in culture and tradition from westerners and the rest of the world.
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how fair does it sound that a certain society will still be considered as a so called "tolerant" society/culture even though it puts some restriction on human behavior while another culture/society will be called a terribly "intolerant" culture/society because it wants to put her own version of "restriction"?! And then of course start bashing a certain religion because of those restriction!?
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mnowsa: how fair does it sound that a certain society will still be considered as a so called "tolerant" society/culture even though it puts some restriction on human behavior while another culture/society will be called a terribly "intolerant" culture/society because it wants to put her own version of "restriction"?! And then of course start bashing a certain religion because of those restriction!?
Let's bash ALL organized Religion then!
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mnowsa: how fair does it sound that a certain society will still be considered as a so called "tolerant" society/culture even though it puts some restriction on human behavior while another culture/society will be called a terribly "intolerant" culture/society because it wants to put her own version of "restriction"?! And then of course start bashing a certain religion because of those restriction!?
No, I'll sit here and bash EVERY religion which tries to impinge upon my freedoms. You should see some of the things I've said about Christianity before accusing me of Islam bashing. As to to Syria and Turkey, both have introduced rules/laws preventing the wearing of face coverings on University and I believe, in the case of Syria, government buildings. As to definitions, I define a country as being is Islamic if the majority of the population are Islamic or Islam is the state religion. As to tolerance and intolerance it is the LEVELS of restrictions placed upon society by that religion. Do you believe it is right to prevent ALL people from drinking alcohol because a religion disapproves? I mean it's not like they are threatening to drink in a mosque or anything? Would you be happy if the UK, as an example, RIGIDLY enforced the no working on a Sunday law WHATEVER your religion? As to the barbarities of Sharia law, let's not go there! If YOUR religion restricts what YOU can do, that is YOUR choice. When YOUR religion tries to restrict what I can do that is oppression and that is just plain WRONG.
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Wow_Factor: Coming to your State soon:http://www.newsbiscuit.com/2010/08/02/gulf-states-order-blackberry-users-to-cover-their-phones-in-a-tiny-burqa/
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shikoomuch: Just as we have right to dress the way we like, they also have to cover themselves according to their religion and faith. You in so called civilized world power is it so had to accept and respect others religions and cultures? What about catholic nuns?
The one who are fanatics are not good muslims but we get alof of them who are. Just as we get good christians and others who aren't. TOLERANT
The one who are fanatics are not good muslims but we get alof of them who are. Just as we get good christians and others who aren't. TOLERANT
WAIT a Minute !
I am NEVER ever, going to be accused of taking " UP " for the Catholic Religion !
NOT me !I could fill a whole BOOK on the things that are wrong with THAT one !
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GatorChompin: Burqas are mostly worn by Middle Eastern women as an item of fashion, not an item of restraint or conformity. Just like western women try to out-do each other with a new blouse or dress, burqas are purchased because they are the fashion. They come in many different varieties. There's entire websites dedicated to selling all different kinds.
Not to say that some don't wear them because of control freak husbands, but that can be said for any society. There's plenty of American men who won't allow their wife to wear a dress shorter than ankle-length. What's the difference?
What we have here is a classic case of orientalism: a fear, or unwillingness to understand the great differences in culture and tradition from westerners and the rest of the world.
Not to say that some don't wear them because of control freak husbands, but that can be said for any society. There's plenty of American men who won't allow their wife to wear a dress shorter than ankle-length. What's the difference?
What we have here is a classic case of orientalism: a fear, or unwillingness to understand the great differences in culture and tradition from westerners and the rest of the world.
Easy Tiger,
this is about trying to UNDERSTAND, where they are coming from, I am NOT taking sides at all ! Just a neutral party trying to understand.
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curiousgeorge2: Maybe, I failed to explain myself FULLY. what I am asking YOU and all the other Women is this.
in a COUNTRY, where you suddenly found YOURSELF,...... having to abide by Sharia Law ! how are you going to handle it ?
when one goes from FREEDOM of thought & Movement ETC,... to having to DRESS and OBEY the rules of this Law ! then what ?
YEA YEA I know You are going to say this will NEVER Happen.
" HUMOR ME "............
THIS world of ours is Changing FAST,....... and next week or next YEAR ! you may find yourself wearing one of these, and riding in the TRUNK of a TAXI !
in a COUNTRY, where you suddenly found YOURSELF,...... having to abide by Sharia Law ! how are you going to handle it ?
when one goes from FREEDOM of thought & Movement ETC,... to having to DRESS and OBEY the rules of this Law ! then what ?
YEA YEA I know You are going to say this will NEVER Happen.
" HUMOR ME "............
THIS world of ours is Changing FAST,....... and next week or next YEAR ! you may find yourself wearing one of these, and riding in the TRUNK of a TAXI !
Nah, I wasn' going to say it'll never happen.
Here's the thing. The burka, veil, etc. is NOT required according to the Koran.
The problems with sharia law and the division arose as a result of different interpretations of the Koran. Same thing happened with the bible. That is why we have so many sects and denominations.
You could ask the same question of all catholics regarding Canon Law. The catholic church has a whole body of laws and its own lawyers. We do not follow cannon law either now do we. We have a lot more catholics in the country than muslims.
The burka and women not driving (Saudi only and our good friends) require this for cultural reasons. The religious basis for such requirements is bogus at best.
You know, neither the democrats nor the republicans have extended the law that makes men and women equal in the US. (Clarification on the constitution). So what does that tell you?
To humor you...if I was asked to do ANY religious act, I would emigrate elsewhere. I do not play that game.
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