US Women and the Sharia LAW.......... (75)
Go On,
You are doing a FINE job.
Joey
You are doing a FINE job.
Joey
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By the way, here "zina" means "adulery"
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curiousgeorge2: WOW,
sounds like Baptist & Catholics all over again !
I take it that, peace be upon him is a standard thing when mentioning his name ?
sounds like Baptist & Catholics all over again !
I take it that, peace be upon him is a standard thing when mentioning his name ?
Yes, it is a customary and standard procedure for all muslims to say "peace be upon him" while mentioning the name of the greatest human in the history called prophet Muhammad (pbuh). By the way, we muslim ask for mercy from the Lord whenever we mention the name of any prophet, be it moses, abraham or jesus..any prophet that is.
Another point need to be mentioned here with regard to baptism and catholicism all over again..lol...the truth of the matter is that we muslims would be the happiest lot if baptist and catholics also think the same way by accepting islam then. But, just like me, you also know that the reality is those baptist and catholics are trying to annihilate islam and muslim for thousands of years by propagating against islam and muslim. so you may want to retreat from that statment (ie. baptist and catholics are all over again)...
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in other words, what i meant to say, there must be some very serious and fundamental differences between the ways of catholics/baptists and that of islam. Otherwise, catholics and baptists would be very happily accept and endorse the creeds of islam
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Great posts mnowsa!
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what I meant by the Baptist, Catholic thing is that they do NOT agree, that's all. for that matter my sister is Pentecostal.
and SHE doesn't AGREE with any of them either !
But thank you so much for broadening my understanding of Islam.
Joey
and SHE doesn't AGREE with any of them either !
But thank you so much for broadening my understanding of Islam.
Joey
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mnowsa: in other words, what i meant to say, there must be some very serious and fundamental differences between the ways of catholics/baptists and that of islam. Otherwise, catholics and baptists would be very happily accept and endorse the creeds of islam
My Personal opinion, is that each faith, wants to be in charge,
for whatever there individual motives are. GREED, Power, ETC...
But thankfully we are all entitled to our own opinions.
I could get on a soap box of whats wrong with this or wrong with that, but Nothing is perfect in this world.
Its a shame, I wonder how much MONEY, Time, & LIVES have been LOST to this whole subject..........
Joey
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By the way, we muslim ask for mercy from the Lord whenever we mention the name of any prophet, be it moses, abraham or jesus..any prophet that is.
Now this I don't understand,
I was always under the impression that if you weren't Islamic then you were nothing, so I take it I am wrong there, and that Islam
recognizes, these people, but the other religions don't do the same ? I am on shaky ground here, for this is really outta my league. I am a retired Soldier, I do NOT try " Normally" to even understand religions much less talk about them for so long.
I know some things about the crusades, not much but a little.
My Take on that was that the ( OH BOY ) Catholic Church, wanted to be the Head KNOCKER and didn't want Islam in the way.,
Personally, I think this planet is big enough for us ALL to be able to get along. BUT then,....... what do I know !
Now this I don't understand,
I was always under the impression that if you weren't Islamic then you were nothing, so I take it I am wrong there, and that Islam
recognizes, these people, but the other religions don't do the same ? I am on shaky ground here, for this is really outta my league. I am a retired Soldier, I do NOT try " Normally" to even understand religions much less talk about them for so long.
I know some things about the crusades, not much but a little.
My Take on that was that the ( OH BOY ) Catholic Church, wanted to be the Head KNOCKER and didn't want Islam in the way.,
Personally, I think this planet is big enough for us ALL to be able to get along. BUT then,....... what do I know !
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curiousgeorge2: By the way, we muslim ask for mercy from the Lord whenever we mention the name of any prophet, be it moses, abraham or jesus..any prophet that is.
Now this I don't understand,
I was always under the impression that if you weren't Islamic then you were nothing, so I take it I am wrong there, and that Islam
recognizes, these people, but the other religions don't do the same ? I am on shaky ground here, for this is really outta my league. I am a retired Soldier, I do NOT try " Normally" to even understand religions much less talk about them for so long.
I know some things about the crusades, not much but a little.
My Take on that was that the ( OH BOY ) Catholic Church, wanted to be the Head KNOCKER and didn't want Islam in the way.,
Personally, I think this planet is big enough for us ALL to be able to get along. BUT then,....... what do I know !
Now this I don't understand,
I was always under the impression that if you weren't Islamic then you were nothing, so I take it I am wrong there, and that Islam
recognizes, these people, but the other religions don't do the same ? I am on shaky ground here, for this is really outta my league. I am a retired Soldier, I do NOT try " Normally" to even understand religions much less talk about them for so long.
I know some things about the crusades, not much but a little.
My Take on that was that the ( OH BOY ) Catholic Church, wanted to be the Head KNOCKER and didn't want Islam in the way.,
Personally, I think this planet is big enough for us ALL to be able to get along. BUT then,....... what do I know !
Just like you mentioned there sir, there are plenty of misunderstandings with regard to islam. Islam doesn't only recognizes the people of other religions, it also orders muslim to respect and ask for mercy from Allah almighty for all the prophets. in fact, islam goes as far as saying that if we muslim don't recognize and respect other prophets, we won't be accepted as muslims in the eyes of Allah almighty.
Islam is universal by its nature. And that's exactly why you will see that almost 4/5 millions of pilgrims from all over the world go for pilgrimage to Mecca, and they finish the ritual without any supervision of any force or government! Can you imagine in this world that a crowd of 4/5 millions of people doing their "things" in such an orderly fashion without any control of any power or government?!
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Islam is universal by its nature. And that's exactly why you will see that almost 4/5 millions of pilgrims from all over the world go for pilgrimage to Mecca, and they finish the ritual without any supervision of any force or government! Can you imagine in this world that a crowd of 4/5 millions of people doing their "things" in such an orderly fashion without any control of any power or government?!
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THAT is impressive !
I have to admit. Thank you. Joey
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THAT is impressive !
I have to admit. Thank you. Joey
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curiousgeorge2: at the very BEGINNING of this, It was proposed as a discussion because of my LACK,.......... of KNOWLEDGE on this subject,.......
H E L L O <......... lets read the entire thing here.
I don't care to have freedom removed from ANYONE. nor am I in the least bit interested in, telling or being told what form of religion I should practice.
However it seems to me that MORE & MORE American Women are turning to ISLAM,....... and I just was trying to UNDERSTAND,....... W H Y ! ..................................
May be are tired of too much freedom and men who share bills into two when they go out for a cup of coffee.H E L L O <......... lets read the entire thing here.
I don't care to have freedom removed from ANYONE. nor am I in the least bit interested in, telling or being told what form of religion I should practice.
However it seems to me that MORE & MORE American Women are turning to ISLAM,....... and I just was trying to UNDERSTAND,....... W H Y ! ..................................
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curiousgeorge2: Islam is universal by its nature. And that's exactly why you will see that almost 4/5 millions of pilgrims from all over the world go for pilgrimage to Mecca, and they finish the ritual without any supervision of any force or government! Can you imagine in this world that a crowd of 4/5 millions of people doing their "things" in such an orderly fashion without any control of any power or government?!
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THAT is impressive !
I have to admit. Thank you. Joey
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THAT is impressive !
I have to admit. Thank you. Joey
Hello again, curious. I hope that i have managed to give you some kind of idea about what islam really is in its entirety.To understand islam, one must be intelligent and smart. In fact, it is impossible for a muslim to remain stupid and ignorant because the very first revelation that came to prophet Muhammad (pbuh) through angel gabriel was "iqra" meaning "read". the Lord orders muslims to read and learn so that they can enlighten the whole world. unfortunately, most muslims today have never read the holy quran nor they ever tried to understand what really holy quran stands for. Very sad but true
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I have just found this, which is worrying.
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curiousgeorge2: I don't Pretend to be an expert, so I thought it time to Learn something !
1st let me say that I am amazed that there are WOMEN,......
THAT LIVE in the USA that are willing to subjugate themselves, to this situation to BEGIN with. these things called the
HIYAB, BURKA, NIQAB, SHAYLA, CHADOR,..... are incredible for me to even begin to try understand. Not to even MENTION,.... what comes NEXT !
( I hope I spelled them right ) .....
NOT, that I don't think that SOME Women in this COUNTRY, could benefit,.... from being Made to ride in the trunk of a Taxi CAB !
Sorry,.....
Anyway, Back to my Point, I have to wonder just how Far AMERICAN Women are going to Stand for being PUSHED around like this !
OK,.......... Fire AWAY I have my Body ARMOR on now.
Just as we have right to dress the way we like, they also have to cover themselves according to their religion and faith. You in so called civilized world power is it so had to accept and respect others religions and cultures? What about catholic nuns?1st let me say that I am amazed that there are WOMEN,......
THAT LIVE in the USA that are willing to subjugate themselves, to this situation to BEGIN with. these things called the
HIYAB, BURKA, NIQAB, SHAYLA, CHADOR,..... are incredible for me to even begin to try understand. Not to even MENTION,.... what comes NEXT !
( I hope I spelled them right ) .....
NOT, that I don't think that SOME Women in this COUNTRY, could benefit,.... from being Made to ride in the trunk of a Taxi CAB !
Sorry,.....
Anyway, Back to my Point, I have to wonder just how Far AMERICAN Women are going to Stand for being PUSHED around like this !
OK,.......... Fire AWAY I have my Body ARMOR on now.
The one who are fanatics are not good muslims but we get alof of them who are. Just as we get good christians and others who aren't. TOLERANT
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shikoomuch: Just as we have right to dress the way we like, they also have to cover themselves according to their religion and faith. You in so called civilized world power is it so had to accept and respect others religions and cultures? What about catholic nuns?
The one who are fanatics are not good muslims but we get alof of them who are. Just as we get good christians and others who aren't. TOLERANT
Catholic Nuns dress like that of their own free will,since they join the Order voluntarily!The one who are fanatics are not good muslims but we get alof of them who are. Just as we get good christians and others who aren't. TOLERANT
Walk in a Bikini,or not covered up, Downtown anywhere in SA,and you'll find out how tolerant they are!
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shikoomuch: Just as we have right to dress the way we like, they also have to cover themselves according to their religion and faith. You in so called civilized world power is it so had to accept and respect others religions and cultures? What about catholic nuns?
The one who are fanatics are not good muslims but we get alof of them who are. Just as we get good christians and others who aren't. TOLERANT
The one who are fanatics are not good muslims but we get alof of them who are. Just as we get good christians and others who aren't. TOLERANT
What ever makes you happy , from my perspective , when I see a Woman dressed as a Ninja or a Nun ,thats just turns me off
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Conrad73: Catholic Nuns dress like that of their own free will,since they join the Order voluntarily!
Walk in a Bikini,or not covered up, Downtown anywhere in SA,and you'll find out how tolerant they are!
Walk in a Bikini,or not covered up, Downtown anywhere in SA,and you'll find out how tolerant they are!
Hey conrad, did you ever see a woman roaming in bikini in and around vatican city and city churches? Or have you seen women wearing bikini and roaming in and around synagogue in jerusalem( a place which you revere so much)?
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mnowsa: Hey conrad, did you ever see a woman roaming in bikini in and around vatican city and city churches? Or have you seen women wearing bikini and roaming in and around synagogue in jerusalem( a place which you revere so much)?
If your answer is "no", then my question is why not?
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mnowsa: Hey conrad, did you ever see a woman roaming in bikini in and around vatican city and city churches? Or have you seen women wearing bikini and roaming in and around synagogue in jerusalem( a place which you revere so much)?
Putting words in my mouth again?
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A very important point needs to be remembered in this regard, and that is, ibn al shafi promoted the use of "additional" sources of sharia law. these additional sources of sharia law could be summed up as the technique of "... reasoning by analogy in order to develop new laws from existing laws." As the culture evolves, new types of problems emerge that need to be dealt with..these are the techniques of accepting the consensus of a Muslim community. The reasoning is that Allah would not allow an entire community to be in error on a basic Islamic principle.
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