Can Anyone Help or Advise (70)

Jan 17, 2011 5:48 PM CST Can Anyone Help or Advise
JustLittleMe
JustLittleMeJustLittleMeDublin, Wicklow Ireland115 Threads 7 Polls 2,280 Posts
blipper2000: ya brought a jack russel to a creche
thats different
yer missin the point though
if a border collie attacked me i could fight it off
theres no way i could fight off a 15 stone rotweiller
ive never read in any newspaper about a collie killing a child
ever
but ive read about plenty of bull terriers doing it and rotts
in illegal dog fighting dens staffs and rottweilers are the dogs of choice for a reason
my kids dos is a springer cross
the little bollix keeps biting me
he juss doesnt get walked enough
anyway i slapped its nose with a newspaper
i wouldnt do that to a 15 stone rottweiler cause id be afraid the thing could axctually kill me by ripping my throat out
its powewrfull enough to do it but my springer isnt






Jan 17, 2011 5:51 PM CST Can Anyone Help or Advise
blipper2000
blipper2000blipper2000dublin, Dublin Ireland69 Threads 9 Polls 6,900 Posts
baldydude: kinda funny ..... a human fights he/she gets either a slap over the fingers or a pat on the back....... an animal fights nd regardless of right or wrong (eventho its the human owner who is responsible for said animal getting in the fight in the firts place) its gets send to death

theres no such thing as doggie prisonlaugh
i see yer point though
humans can be talked to and reasonede with and rehabilitated so unless yer doctor doolittle and you can (i feel a song coming on)
talk to the animals
talk to the animals
he talks to the animalslaugh
my point ius you cannot rehabiitate a dog scold
Jan 17, 2011 5:54 PM CST Can Anyone Help or Advise
blipper2000
blipper2000blipper2000dublin, Dublin Ireland69 Threads 9 Polls 6,900 Posts
salanky: staffies are the nicest dogs on the planet when treated right. it may surprise people but theres some common dogs on the dangerous dogs list that are never muzzled.

this is from the ispca site
Restricted Dog Breeds in Ireland

The Control of Dogs Regulations 1998 specify 10 breeds which need strict control.

* American Pit Bull Terrier

* Bull Mastiff

* Doberman Pinscher

* English Bull Terrier

* German Shepherd (Alsatian)

* Japanese Akita

* Japanese Tosa

* Rhodesian Ridgeback

* Rottweiler

* Staffordshire Bull TerrierEvery other strain or cross-breed of these dogs are also covered.

These dogs must be securely muzzled and kept on a dog chain or leash. not more than 2m long, in a public place and supervised by someone aged over 16 years who is capable of controlling the dog.how many of those breeds do people see out walking with no muzzle? how many kids have german sheps as pets? its not the dogs fault, one attack on another dog should not be a death sentence for the dog there are plenty of other factors that come into play such as how the dog was socialised as a pup, if the dog itself may have been attacked before, what stance the other dog had and weather it was agressive but not noticed....i know full well im fighting a losing battle here and im just gonna be told over and over its all the dogs fault, kill the dog etc etc but its something i feel very strongly about

would you put a dog down that attacked a humandunno

i agree with what yer saying but you cannot take a chance with a dog cause a dog cannot be reasoned with
we cannot communicate with animals
Jan 17, 2011 5:55 PM CST Can Anyone Help or Advise
salanky
salankysalankydublin, Dublin Ireland90 Threads 1 Polls 9,888 Posts
blipper2000: theres no such thing as doggie prison
i see yer point though
humans can be talked to and reasonede with and rehabilitated so unless yer doctor doolittle and you can (i feel a song coming on)
talk to the animals
talk to the animals
he talks to the animals
my point ius you cannot rehabiitate a dog
well if thats what you think then you are being very short sighted, there are 100s of dog rehabilitated every year for tons of reasons. racing greyhounds are a perfect example, if one of them sights 'prey' it will hunting down till it gets it and will stop at nothing. they are as strong as staffies and could shred a rabbit etc in seconds. thats the reason there is a law that they have to be controlled by someone over 16 and no more than 4 can be walked at a time. most owners muzzle them too in case the slip the lead though its not required in the law but its responsible dog ownership to do so
Jan 17, 2011 5:56 PM CST Can Anyone Help or Advise
blipper2000: would you put a dog down that attacked a human

i agree with what yer saying but you cannot take a chance with a dog cause a dog cannot be reasoned with
we cannot communicate with animals



I'm thinking of buying a tiger-cub over the Internet and keeping it in my back garden, anyone have any tips they could pass on to me about it?
Jan 17, 2011 5:57 PM CST Can Anyone Help or Advise
salanky
salankysalankydublin, Dublin Ireland90 Threads 1 Polls 9,888 Posts
blipper2000: would you put a dog down that attacked a human

i agree with what yer saying but you cannot take a chance with a dog cause a dog cannot be reasoned with
we cannot communicate with animals
yes of course i would but were not talking about a human were talking about another dog. that bs about the next step is a child is bollax they are dogs not premedetaed murders.
Jan 17, 2011 5:58 PM CST Can Anyone Help or Advise
salanky
salankysalankydublin, Dublin Ireland90 Threads 1 Polls 9,888 Posts
salanky: yes of course i would but were not talking about a human were talking about another dog. that bs about the next step is a child is bollax they are dogs not premedetaed murders.
doh murderers
Jan 17, 2011 5:58 PM CST Can Anyone Help or Advise
baldydude
baldydudebaldydudefermoy, Cork Ireland164 Threads 4,643 Posts
blipper2000: theres no such thing as doggie prison
i see yer point though
humans can be talked to and reasonede with and rehabilitated so unless yer doctor doolittle and you can (i feel a song coming on)
talk to the animals
talk to the animals
he talks to the animals
my point ius you cannot rehabiitate a dog
yup but at the end of the day its the owners responsibility, i've owned dogs all me life including rottweilers, german shephards, bouvier the flanders etc that are all listed on the dangerous dogs lists, but i as the owner made dam sure that any dog i've owned was never put in a position where it could attack be it another animal or a human dunno
Jan 17, 2011 5:58 PM CST Can Anyone Help or Advise
DeadSound
DeadSoundDeadSoundGalway, Ireland10 Threads 1 Polls 305 Posts
salanky: yes of course i would but were not talking about a human were talking about another dog. that bs about the next step is a child is bollax they are dogs not premedetaed murders.


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Jan 17, 2011 5:59 PM CST Can Anyone Help or Advise
salanky
salankysalankydublin, Dublin Ireland90 Threads 1 Polls 9,888 Posts
snowlynx: I'm thinking of buying a tiger-cub over the Internet and keeping it in my back garden, anyone have any tips they could pass on to me about it?
you know what the stupid thing is you could do that if you wanted no questions asked but you need a licence to keep a dog dunno
Jan 17, 2011 6:00 PM CST Can Anyone Help or Advise
blipper2000
blipper2000blipper2000dublin, Dublin Ireland69 Threads 9 Polls 6,900 Posts
salanky: well if thats what you think then you are being very short sighted, there are 100s of dog rehabilitated every year for tons of reasons. racing greyhounds are a perfect example, if one of them sights 'prey' it will hunting down till it gets it and will stop at nothing. they are as strong as staffies and could shred a rabbit etc in seconds. thats the reason there is a law that they have to be controlled by someone over 16 and no more than 4 can be walked at a time. most owners muzzle them too in case the slip the lead though its not required in the law but its responsible dog ownership to do so

i had a greyhound

they are powerfull but no way as strong as staffs
staffs are pure muscle
Jan 17, 2011 6:01 PM CST Can Anyone Help or Advise
Jan 17, 2011 6:01 PM CST Can Anyone Help or Advise
JustLittleMe
JustLittleMeJustLittleMeDublin, Wicklow Ireland115 Threads 7 Polls 2,280 Posts
salanky:
i know full well im fighting a losing battle here and im just gonna be told over and over its all the dogs fault, kill the dog etc etc but its something i feel very strongly about



I don't agree its the dogs fault, the OWNER IS AT FAULT........ but fact is this particular dog is dangerous.
Jan 17, 2011 6:02 PM CST Can Anyone Help or Advise
blipper2000
blipper2000blipper2000dublin, Dublin Ireland69 Threads 9 Polls 6,900 Posts
salanky: yes of course i would but were not talking about a human were talking about another dog. that bs about the next step is a child is bollax they are dogs not premedetaed murders.

so would you leave a child alone with a staff or a rott?
Jan 17, 2011 6:03 PM CST Can Anyone Help or Advise
blipper2000
blipper2000blipper2000dublin, Dublin Ireland69 Threads 9 Polls 6,900 Posts
baldydude: yup but at the end of the day its the owners responsibility, i've owned dogs all me life including rottweilers, german shephards, bouvier the flanders etc that are all listed on the dangerous dogs lists, but i as the owner made dam sure that any dog i've owned was never put in a position where it could attack be it another animal or a human

did ya ever bring a dog to a creche?dunno
Jan 17, 2011 6:03 PM CST Can Anyone Help or Advise
TwinkleStar_70
TwinkleStar_70TwinkleStar_70Near carloe, Carlow Ireland14 Threads 2 Polls 1,230 Posts
i notic my shepherd now 6 months, fighting alot with my other. 5 months old black lab...they used to be closed.. not any more...will it get worst? help
Jan 17, 2011 6:03 PM CST Can Anyone Help or Advise
baldydude
baldydudebaldydudefermoy, Cork Ireland164 Threads 4,643 Posts
blipper2000: so would you leave a child alone with a staff or a rott?
thats a no brainer doh
Jan 17, 2011 6:03 PM CST Can Anyone Help or Advise
salanky
salankysalankydublin, Dublin Ireland90 Threads 1 Polls 9,888 Posts
blipper2000: so would you leave a child alone with a staff or a rott?
i wouldnt leave a child alone with any dog my own included thats just stupidity, children need to be taught how to act around dogs and what they can and cant do. a lot of bites can be down to the dog being provoked by the child
Jan 17, 2011 6:04 PM CST Can Anyone Help or Advise
blipper2000
blipper2000blipper2000dublin, Dublin Ireland69 Threads 9 Polls 6,900 Posts
JustLittleMe: I don't agree its the dogs fault, the OWNER IS AT FAULT........ but fact is this particular dog is dangerous.

the sad thing is they wont listen
im sayin no more blushing
Jan 17, 2011 6:04 PM CST Can Anyone Help or Advise
JustLittleMe
JustLittleMeJustLittleMeDublin, Wicklow Ireland115 Threads 7 Polls 2,280 Posts
blipper2000: so would you leave a child alone with a staff or a rott?


No she already said she wouldn't leave any dog alone with kids.
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