Colleene1024West Warwick, Rhode Island USA1,225 posts
patmac: Nah a lie is a lie, a little white lie is far different from a lie in a debate. Especially if the lie has no other use than to try to discredit the other person or the other persos point in the debate.
To my mind once you lie in these circumstances at what point does anything you say have any meaning.
Any witness in a court of law caught lying the jury or judge has an impossible task trying to figure out if they are being henest and the case is usually thrown out.
As always JMO
Well, after debating this over a piece of terimisu cake, I have come to a conclusion. Everyone lies at one point in there life. Usually as a child. However! When one is an adult and lies in a thread over something I can not divuldge, or give sircumstantional evidance, I feel they are more laughable then and untrustworthy then a five year old.
JeanMarlow: I think he is talking about diplomatic lying. If someones says, before they walking into an interview, "Do I look okay?" Are you gonna say, "No, you look well past your sell by date and you are too fat, etc. You will never get this job." Or are you gonna say, "You look great. Good luck."
Being fat, older, etc and ect, doesn't mean you don't look ok and I'm sure the person in question wouldn't be asking the question for those reasons. But if the person had a stain on their clothes, food in the corner of their mouth, a bird dropping on their head or back, toilet paper or other stuck to their shoe wouldn't you tell the person so and this is probably why the question was asked in the first place.
sultryashBridgetown, Saint Michael Barbados3,203 posts
venusenvy: I recently read something by Maya Anjelou that really clicked for me. It was along these lines...People reveal themselves for what they are, the problem is, we dont take note. Even worse we turn a blind eye or try to justify this behaviour. Be it human nature, or not wanting it to be true, We use filters. Then we find ourselves in hurtful relationships with a liar or a cheater. If we instead recognise and acknowledge behavior when we first see it, we would save ourselves a lot of grief, and be much better caretakers of ourselves.
bodleing: Rubbish...no time to respond fully, I'm off out, to the real world right now. And if someone should say to me, "Hi, how are you?" I will reply with, "Fine thanks."
Even if I'm not fine but feeling quite miserable...it's what we do.
Yea, I know what you are saying......
Then you say "how are YOU then?" He/she goes "just fine"
Then the next lie appear as you can not admit, healthy you are, you have been to bed all day...sick. No, you have met with friends having had a great time at Ritz! He/she knows, as he/she is doing the same thing. And you smile towards each other....wondering what is true or false.
Well if that is what we want, we sure as h**l get it!!!
silentspring: Yea, I know what you are saying......
Then you say "how are YOU then?" He/she goes "just fine"
Then the next lie appear as you can not admit, healthy you are, you have been to bed all day...sick. No, you have met with friends having had a great time at Ritz! He/she knows, as he/she is doing the same thing. And you smile towards each other....wondering what is true or false.
Well if that is what we want, we sure as h**l get it!!!
Or the everday ones
The Saturday night special "Of course I love you (means get your kit off)
The Cheques in the post
I promise I won't ........................in your mouth
The Saturday night special "Of course I love you (means get your kit off)
The Cheques in the post I promise I won't ........................in your mouth
Recognise them folks
Theres a difference between those sort of little white lies that people say everyday so as not to offend or hurt someone "no, of course it doesnt make you look fat" and the downright blatant deceitful lies which I think you were referring to in the op
Did the individual mean to lie? Sometimes, I can get my references mixed-up but I don't believe it is intentional for me.
I would sit back, wait until they post a few more times and then see what happens. If they lie and are caught again, I would not trust what they write.
Sunnydaze14: Theres a difference between those sort of little white lies that people say everyday so as not to offend or hurt someone "no, of course it doesnt make you look fat" and the downright blatant deceitful lies which I think you were referring to in the op
I have to disagree with you, do not ask a question if you feel you may not be able to handle the truth.
"No, of course it does not make you look fat" if it is not true is belitteling and in no way soothing, only confusing and an invitation to keep on with lies.
When asked a question like that, I usually ask if he or she really want my opinion. Sometimes I need go no further.
venusenvy: I recently read something by Maya Anjelou that really clicked for me. It was along these lines...People reveal themselves for what they are, the problem is, we dont take note. Even worse we turn a blind eye or try to justify this behaviour. Be it human nature, or not wanting it to be true, We use filters. Then we find ourselves in hurtful relationships with a liar or a cheater. If we instead recognise and acknowledge behavior when we first see it, we would save ourselves a lot of grief, and be much better caretakers of ourselves.
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To my mind once you lie in these circumstances at what point does anything you say have any meaning.
Any witness in a court of law caught lying the jury or judge has an impossible task trying to figure out if they are being henest and the case is usually thrown out.
As always JMO
Well, after debating this over a piece of terimisu cake, I have come to a conclusion. Everyone lies at one point in there life. Usually as a child. However! When one is an adult and lies in a thread over something I can not divuldge, or give sircumstantional evidance, I feel they are more laughable then and untrustworthy then a five year old.
JMHO