new government (39)

of course i would! And ill get back to you

typical polition talk sure your nearly have the lingo off

i think i might be this thread a bit

I have no intention of getting into a full-blown discussion or debate on this thread but I have to agree to a degree with you Vinny.

Yes public service (and I am one of them) and social welfare need to be OVERHAULED. Cuts across the board are not the way to do it though, in my opinion.

To be honest the best ideas I've heard for making savings and cutting expenditure have all come from the ground level staff, not from senior management. There are areas which can take substantial cuts, but there are areas where even small cuts would have disastrous results.

The staff at ground level have a much better understanding of what changes should and could be made, but either are not allowed to voice their opinions (as is the case where I work) or just ignored.

of course it's a con, there all in on it,the media too, people voted for a change, and now they are getting the 4 year plan of the previous government

I dont doubt the best ideas come from ground level staff. They are the ones dealing with the bureacracy on a daily basis and can see what procedures and so on are necessary or a hindrance in doing their job.

I just think that people see the benefits they receive as their right without thinking where the monies come from to pay for those benefits. Cut backs have to happen accross the board from top to bottom for the loans to be repaid and to get the country on a better economic track.

Maybe, just maybe next time the Celtic Tiger roars Governments and households will appreciate it more and learn that it is not a never ending supply and tomorrow needs to be thought about.

Hope your well C

The programme for government is bloody pie in the sky politics designed to ensure that it was passed at the Labour party special conference, as we all know the EU/IMF run the country now and it is possible that the IMF will order the incoming government to slash public sector pay and social welfare. FG and Labour don't run the country its Ajai Chopra and Olli Rehn that call the shots now.

One example last Autumn the greek (left wing) government agreed with the EU/IMF taht theyw ould only privatise about €7 billion of state owned companies, they have now been ORDERED to privatise €50 billion worth of state owned companies.

PersonalllyI think public sector pay and social welfare should be reduced to in line with the UK after a cost of living analysis has taken place, I'm sure that means a welfare cut of at least 30% and further public sector pay cuts of 20% across the board although I'd prefer smallr percentage pay cuts for lower paid public sector workers.

Irish people need to cop on that FG/Labour don't run the country its the EU and the IMF. I wouldn't be surprised if the FF scum did a aly deal with the IMF as regards the croke park deal before they left office.