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Mar 26, 2011 8:37 AM CST i am curious......
pikengren
pikengrenpikengrenlake worth, Florida USA72 Threads 2 Polls 2,003 Posts
there are so many things wrong in the world that
we have grown to accept.

ridiculous bank fees, hunger, people not treating each
other with common courteousy,
the list could go on and on, a wide range
of things of varying importance.

we accept so many things,

yet,

atheists cannot accept people believing in a god of some kind,

and those that believe in a god of some kind
cannot accept that some don't believe.

not all atheists, or all religious people are like this.

but certian people, on both sides,
you can just tell it eats at them.

why?
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Mar 26, 2011 9:08 AM CST i am curious......
ClearlyStated
ClearlyStatedClearlyStatedNorth Bay, Ontario Canada15 Threads 1 Polls 489 Posts
pikengren: there are so many things wrong in the world that
we have grown to accept.

ridiculous bank fees, hunger, people not treating each
other with common courteousy,
the list could go on and on, a wide range
of things of varying importance.

we accept so many things,

yet,

atheists cannot accept people believing in a god of some kind,

and those that believe in a god of some kind
cannot accept that some don't believe.

not all atheists, or all religious people are like this.

but certian people, on both sides,
you can just tell it eats at them.

why?


Because the price of gas is too high!!! rolling on the floor laughing
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Mar 26, 2011 9:10 AM CST i am curious......
venusenvy
venusenvyvenusenvyCalgary, Alberta Canada27 Threads 20,003 Posts
Im not sure what your question is Pike dunno
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Mar 26, 2011 9:12 AM CST i am curious......
pikengren
pikengrenpikengrenlake worth, Florida USA72 Threads 2 Polls 2,003 Posts
ClearlyStated: Because the price of gas is too high!!!


ok fine. don't take me seriously then. moping

grin
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Mar 26, 2011 9:12 AM CST i am curious......
vinny1967
vinny1967vinny1967Dublin, Cork Ireland131 Threads 7 Polls 11,475 Posts
pikengren: there are so many things wrong in the world that
we have grown to accept.

ridiculous bank fees, hunger, people not treating each
other with common courteousy,
the list could go on and on, a wide range
of things of varying importance.

we accept so many things,

yet,

atheists cannot accept people believing in a god of some kind,

and those that believe in a god of some kind
cannot accept that some don't believe.

not all atheists, or all religious people are like this.

but certian people, on both sides,
you can just tell it eats at them.

why?


Ego mumbling
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Mar 26, 2011 9:17 AM CST i am curious......
GingerBe
GingerBeGingerBeDonegal, Ireland2 Threads 3,106 Posts
pikengren: there are so many things wrong in the world that
we have grown to accept.

ridiculous bank fees, hunger, people not treating each
other with common courteousy,
the list could go on and on, a wide range
of things of varying importance.

we accept so many things,

yet,

atheists cannot accept people believing in a god of some kind,

and those that believe in a god of some kind
cannot accept that some don't believe.

not all atheists, or all religious people are like this.

but certian people, on both sides,
you can just tell it eats at them.

why?


I think that sometimes their own opinons on beliefs are too precious and personal to them, or maybe too hard-won, or a tradition in their family, so that they would feel like they were losing face, to come some way to agreeing with another's viewpoint.

Belief is a core value. It is something that people define who they are, by. When talking about religion or politics, they say things like "I AM a ......" catholic, methodist, republican, whatever..... so when their core belief is challenged it is like they are not being validated for who they are, I think........

hug
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Mar 26, 2011 9:18 AM CST i am curious......
pikengren
pikengrenpikengrenlake worth, Florida USA72 Threads 2 Polls 2,003 Posts
venusenvy: Im not sure what your question is Pike


sorry, i have been lazy with how i phrase things again.

why does it bother some atheists that some people believe
there is some kind of god,
and why does it bother some religious people that athiest
don't believe in a god?

why can't they accept one another,
when most of us seem to accept so many other
more important things that we should not accept?
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Mar 26, 2011 9:20 AM CST i am curious......
venusenvy
venusenvyvenusenvyCalgary, Alberta Canada27 Threads 20,003 Posts
pikengren: sorry, i have been lazy with how i phrase things again.

why does it bother some atheists that some people believe
there is some kind of god,
and why does it bother some religious people that athiest
don't believe in a god?

why can't they accept one another,
when most of us seem to accept so many other
more important things that we should not accept?


It doesnt bother me one way or another. However, I get what you mean. I dont think it so much bothers them Pike, I think they bother each other. wine
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Mar 26, 2011 9:20 AM CST i am curious......
pikengren
pikengrenpikengrenlake worth, Florida USA72 Threads 2 Polls 2,003 Posts
vinny1967: Ego


there is something so awesome about a one word answer
that says so much more than one word.
thumbs up
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Mar 26, 2011 9:22 AM CST i am curious......
YankeeJ
YankeeJYankeeJPhillipsburg, New Jersey USA5 Threads 1 Polls 102 Posts
pikengren: there are so many things wrong in the world that
we have grown to accept.

ridiculous bank fees, hunger, people not treating each
other with common courteousy,
the list could go on and on, a wide range
of things of varying importance.

we accept so many things,

yet,

atheists cannot accept people believing in a god of some kind,

and those that believe in a god of some kind
cannot accept that some don't believe.

not all atheists, or all religious people are like this.

but certian people, on both sides,
you can just tell it eats at them.

why?


It is because they have nothing better to do. People who believe in a higher being have something to hold on to and to look at for guidance and atheists think it is a stupid thing to do. The only thing you can do is not let anyone get to you. What I do not get is how Atheists will criticize Catholics for believing in God, but there is no criticism towards the Jewish people or Muslims when they believe in the same God. Its a shame some people have to ruin something that is sacred in a lot of peoples lives. Whoever criticizes any religion is an awful person.
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Mar 26, 2011 9:24 AM CST i am curious......
lucynad
lucynadlucynadSunny city, Sicilia Italy7 Threads 2,431 Posts
the need to fulfill their lives with what they perceive as vocation or mission to acomplish...

sort of awkward application of "the end justifies the means"
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Mar 26, 2011 9:26 AM CST i am curious......
pikengren
pikengrenpikengrenlake worth, Florida USA72 Threads 2 Polls 2,003 Posts
GingerBe: I think that sometimes their own opinons on beliefs are too precious and personal to them, or maybe too hard-won, or a tradition in their family, so that they would feel like they were losing face, to come some way to agreeing with another's viewpoint.

Belief is a core value. It is something that people define who they are, by. When talking about religion or politics, they say things like "I AM a ......" catholic, methodist, republican, whatever..... so when their core belief is challenged it is like they are not being validated for who they are, I think........



so, maybe everyone has a certian "thing"
that they validate themselves with.

like maybe mine isn't religion, but something else might set me off.
and yours might be something else, and so on.

many of us appear to have put some time into
defeating this knee jerk reflex,
but we all still have a thing.
maybe?
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Mar 26, 2011 9:33 AM CST i am curious......
GingerBe
GingerBeGingerBeDonegal, Ireland2 Threads 3,106 Posts
Yeah, something like that. It just depends on how attached you are to your opinions. Core beliefs are like personal definitions of who people are, or what combination of opinions they see as making up their unique individuality. In short they are defining themselves by their thoughts from personal experience, of how they see the world.hug
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Mar 26, 2011 9:38 AM CST i am curious......
scorpioaus
scorpioausscorpioausperth, Western Australia Australia2 Threads 171 Posts
pikengren: so, maybe everyone has a certian "thing"
that they validate themselves with.

like maybe mine isn't religion, but something else might set me off.
and yours might be something else, and so on.

many of us appear to have put some time into
defeating this knee jerk reflex,
but we all still have a thing.
maybe?


like you said- it isnt everyone who feels so strongly about their veiws..these are the ones that are rational and healthy and balanced..i think the extremists dont have much else but their faith- and there are christian denominations out there that think that when armageddon comes- god will strike down the other christians first, because they were given the bible and didnt do the right thing with it- and they are conditioned that they are following the right guy and everyone else is wrong. again i will say i dont care what you believe in- if its benefits you than great- just dont go putting it on others
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Mar 26, 2011 9:39 AM CST i am curious......
pikengren
pikengrenpikengrenlake worth, Florida USA72 Threads 2 Polls 2,003 Posts
YankeeJ: It is because they have nothing better to do. People who believe in a higher being have something to hold on to and to look at for guidance and atheists think it is a stupid thing to do. The only thing you can do is not let anyone get to you. What I do not get is how Atheists will criticize Catholics for believing in God, but there is no criticism towards the Jewish people or Muslims when they believe in the same God. Its a shame some people have to ruin something that is sacred in a lot of peoples lives. Whoever criticizes any religion is an awful person.


i have noticed that christian religions seem to be a focal
point.
other rligions do come up,
but not nearly as often.
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Mar 26, 2011 9:52 AM CST i am curious......
Blues63
Blues63Blues63Brisbane, Queensland Australia6 Threads 1 Polls 2,934 Posts
GingerBe: Yeah, something like that. It just depends on how attached you are to your opinions. Core beliefs are like personal definitions of who people are, or what combination of opinions they see as making up their unique individuality. In short they are defining themselves by their thoughts from personal experience, of how they see the world.



Do you feel that core beliefs are mutable? I do, but others have denied the possibility. The old Spartan rule: 'Give me a boy 'till he's seven and I'll show you the man'.
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Mar 26, 2011 9:55 AM CST i am curious......
Blues63
Blues63Blues63Brisbane, Queensland Australia6 Threads 1 Polls 2,934 Posts
pikengren: i have noticed that christian religions seem to be a focal
point.
other rligions do come up,
but not nearly as often.



Have you heard 'atheists' who decry Christianity profess a pagan belief? That one is interesting to say the least. laugh
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Mar 26, 2011 10:26 AM CST i am curious......
Frankinstien
FrankinstienFrankinstienSan Juan, Puerto Rico1 Threads 1,521 Posts
pikengren: there are so many things wrong in the world that
we have grown to accept.

ridiculous bank fees, hunger, people not treating each
other with common courteousy,
the list could go on and on, a wide range
of things of varying importance.

we accept so many things,

yet,

atheists cannot accept people believing in a god of some kind,

and those that believe in a god of some kind
cannot accept that some don't believe.

not all atheists, or all religious people are like this.

but certian people, on both sides,
you can just tell it eats at them.

why?
The most noise acually comes from a small minority . I think most people realy don't care one way or another , or perhaps it is just the day to day that ocupies most of there time. Remember " empty barrels make the most noise ". If you want more proof, just look at the religious or political posts here . You might see the same ones over and over again . Empty " barrels " ? Well just listen to what they say . . . . . .sad flower
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Mar 26, 2011 11:05 AM CST i am curious......
ClearlyStated
ClearlyStatedClearlyStatedNorth Bay, Ontario Canada15 Threads 1 Polls 489 Posts
pikengren: ok fine. don't take me seriously then.


I wasn't trying to be mean....I just seen your list of things in the world that were not fair and felt like gas is not fair either. So I added in....I mean cmon.....

I will go back and comment then on a serious note ok
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Mar 26, 2011 11:10 AM CST i am curious......
ClearlyStated
ClearlyStatedClearlyStatedNorth Bay, Ontario Canada15 Threads 1 Polls 489 Posts
ClearlyStated: Because the price of gas is too high!!!


Someone once said to me - Why is it that people can believe in a GOD they have never seen, yet do not believe in the concept of ghosts or entities?

Most people are programmed to believe from their primary environment, starting at a very young age. They learn a certain way or are taught certain cultural aspects of living, let it be religions or traditions. They beleive they are open minded to other views but when faced with them, they realize they are not so open to other concepts. Not out of choice but out of not wanting to disappoint their "programmed thoughts".
If you question your religion, you are viewed as a sceptical, if you don't - you are viewed as a believer.....explain that one to me???
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