Honesty,best policy...... ( Archived) (38)

Apr 4, 2011 12:16 PM CST Honesty,best policy......
Conorco
ConorcoConorcoMaynooth, Kildare Ireland646 Posts
Kontikitact: Anybody disagree with this....


I do.
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Apr 4, 2011 12:17 PM CST Honesty,best policy......
Kontikitact
KontikitactKontikitactsilkeborg, Central Jutland Denmark52 Threads 6 Polls 797 Posts
Godsgift: That's a very human trait....to cover up a selfish motive with a good one....even to ourselves! But now we're getting into self honesty!
Honesty begins with the self...or am I dishonest in my thread...
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Apr 4, 2011 12:19 PM CST Honesty,best policy......
Kontikitact
KontikitactKontikitactsilkeborg, Central Jutland Denmark52 Threads 6 Polls 797 Posts
Conorco: I do.
Well your Irish...top of the night to ya !
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Apr 4, 2011 1:41 PM CST Honesty,best policy......
pikengren
pikengrenpikengrenlake worth, Florida USA72 Threads 2 Polls 2,003 Posts
EagleWoman: Some people think they are being honest by sharing their opinions. Thing is, their opinon is only THEIR perception of it.

The person being honest would need to be truly aware of what motivates their sharing of opinion. If the ego is involved, forget it, they are not being honest, not even with themselves

IMO


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Apr 4, 2011 4:19 PM CST Honesty,best policy......
Conorco
ConorcoConorcoMaynooth, Kildare Ireland646 Posts
EagleWoman: Agree with you on that one ... if "honesty" is used as a tool rather than it flowing because it just is ... I am not quite sure it could be called honesty ...

Also to bear in mind ... something I have come accross many times ... far too many people think of themselves as honest by "convincing" themselves they are doing something (any particular thing) for a particular reason.

Then you realise their is an undercurrent that doesn't match the on the surface stuff.

That's because people lie to themselves about what motivates their actions to hide from themselves who they truly are and of course to be better lie to others ...
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Apr 4, 2011 4:21 PM CST Honesty,best policy......
maryrachelle
maryrachellemaryrachelleBathurst, New Brunswick Canada27 Threads 1,370 Posts
There's nothing wrong with little white lies occasionally.
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Apr 4, 2011 4:30 PM CST Honesty,best policy......
Dreamyone
DreamyoneDreamyoneRaleigh, North Carolina USA4 Threads 1 Polls 913 Posts
amahlala: I have seen some who believe that their excessive honesty is helpful to the person they are giving it to but find out later that they had an ulterior motive in wanting to hurt the other person.

head banger
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Apr 4, 2011 4:36 PM CST Honesty,best policy......
jac379
jac379jac379pontyclun, South Glamorgan, Wales UK25 Threads 3 Polls 12,293 Posts
Honesty requires a safe environment that fits in with your belief system and freedom of speech.

How many people lied about being Jewish, or hiding a Jew during WWII?

How many Chinese families hid their little girls, or second child, rather than leave them to die?

How many people who have been hungry have taken and covered it up with lies?

Honesty is both a right and a luxury, but not always the best policy.
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Apr 4, 2011 4:37 PM CST Honesty,best policy......
Amity
AmityAmityDodging Daggers, Wiltshire, England UK49 Threads 6,217 Posts
Honesty..yes it is the best policy in a relationship..
Honesty in other walks of life? hmmm...something that i would think requires tact?

I would not say to someone "damn, you iz nasty"
That maybe an honest opinion...but would i voice it? No.
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Apr 4, 2011 4:57 PM CST Honesty,best policy......
Conorco
ConorcoConorcoMaynooth, Kildare Ireland646 Posts
pikengren: is that a german word?

i think there is something to that.
do we just resign ourselves to it?


Aww Pinki don't be sad, look on the positive side (and hey let me know when ya find it).
grin
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Apr 4, 2011 4:58 PM CST Honesty,best policy......
tallman51
tallman51tallman51Limerick, Ireland9 Threads 1 Polls 3,327 Posts
Kontikitact: Anybody disagree with this....

NASA certainly would !!

They have been lying to us for over 40 years now.

professor
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Apr 4, 2011 5:05 PM CST Honesty,best policy......
Conorco
ConorcoConorcoMaynooth, Kildare Ireland646 Posts
tallman51: NASA certainly would !!

They have been lying to us for over 40 years now.


You think your clever because you sussed out that the americans never actually landed a man on the moon, You reckon we didn't have the technology then. Well sonny boy your not as clever as you think because the fact is there is no moon, its an optical illusion

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Apr 4, 2011 5:07 PM CST Honesty,best policy......
venusenvy
venusenvyvenusenvyCalgary, Alberta Canada27 Threads 20,003 Posts
Honesty is the best policy, so is dimplomacy, so is discretion wine
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Apr 4, 2011 5:08 PM CST Honesty,best policy......
venusenvy
venusenvyvenusenvyCalgary, Alberta Canada27 Threads 20,003 Posts
venusenvy: Honesty is the best policy, so is dimplomacy, so is discretion


Ooops *diplomacy
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Apr 4, 2011 5:10 PM CST Honesty,best policy......
Faithe
FaitheFaithePortland, Victoria Australia5 Threads 4,169 Posts
Always
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Apr 4, 2011 5:14 PM CST Honesty,best policy......
Conorco
ConorcoConorcoMaynooth, Kildare Ireland646 Posts
May be, but by being aware, at least while you are doing something you can be aware that your ego is "driving your car" right now instead of kidding yourself it's for some other wonderful reason. That at least is more honest because you are not lying to yourself. I think that may be the first step towards self-honesty awareness is recognising when your ego is doing the driving ...
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Apr 4, 2011 5:15 PM CST Honesty,best policy......
EagleWoman
EagleWomanEagleWomanMalaga, Andalusia Spain22 Threads 4,719 Posts
jac379: Honesty requires a safe environment that fits in with your belief system and freedom of speech.How many people lied about being Jewish, or hiding a Jew during WWII?

How many Chinese families hid their little girls, or second child, rather than leave them to die?

How many people who have been hungry have taken and covered it up with lies?

Honesty is both a right and a luxury, but not always the best policy.


Thay is so true Jac.

I hadn't thought of that angle thumbs up
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Apr 4, 2011 5:16 PM CST Honesty,best policy......
EagleWoman
EagleWomanEagleWomanMalaga, Andalusia Spain22 Threads 4,719 Posts
Conorco: May be, but by being aware, at least while you are doing something you can be aware that your ego is "driving your car" right now instead of kidding yourself it's for some other wonderful reason. That at least is more honest because you are not lying to yourself. I think that may be the first step towards self-honesty awareness is recognising when your ego is doing the driving ...


sure!!! thumbs up
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