OK MUSICIAN'S OF IRELAND,,,, !!!!!! (23)
I don't know what parts of Ireland you have visited, but that is most definately not the case in SW Donegal......we welcome all musicians, the more the merrier 
RobertGill: TIME U CAME CLEAN:
The issue in my travels has often been photo's are frond apron, & Irish music is a "CLOSED SHOP" Piss-off...out-siders, & take your cameras with u.., well, u can't have it both ways,
1/ Are tourist's welcome in Irish music sessions, ?
2/ Are Travailing musicians from other countrys welcome to play in-with Irish musician's,?
3/ Can tourists take pictures of Irish musician's playing music,?
4/ Are Ireland's pub's closed to outsiders ?,
5/ Is trad-Irish music for local Irish people only ?,
I seen first-hand the reaction from musicians when someone takes a photo,
& I seen fist-hand the reaction of musicians when they are asked if someone can sit-in on a session & play music with them, sure, some tunes are not Jam'a'ball, meaning, one need's to know the tune,& be able to play-it well, one can't play alone, not knowing the tune,but with tunes that one can jam-to, & tunes that are known, many friends, & very good player of banjo & fiddle have been turned away,
The issue in my travels has often been photo's are frond apron, & Irish music is a "CLOSED SHOP" Piss-off...out-siders, & take your cameras with u.., well, u can't have it both ways,
1/ Are tourist's welcome in Irish music sessions, ?
2/ Are Travailing musicians from other countrys welcome to play in-with Irish musician's,?
3/ Can tourists take pictures of Irish musician's playing music,?
4/ Are Ireland's pub's closed to outsiders ?,
5/ Is trad-Irish music for local Irish people only ?,
I seen first-hand the reaction from musicians when someone takes a photo,
& I seen fist-hand the reaction of musicians when they are asked if someone can sit-in on a session & play music with them, sure, some tunes are not Jam'a'ball, meaning, one need's to know the tune,& be able to play-it well, one can't play alone, not knowing the tune,but with tunes that one can jam-to, & tunes that are known, many friends, & very good player of banjo & fiddle have been turned away,
1. Yes
2. Yes
3. Yes (as far as I know anyhow)
4. No
5. No
But, it probably depends on where.
In our local there back in August one of the lads went to play the bongos during an Irish music festival that we hold every year and the bar manager told him to stop playing becasue the band was playin a few years ago it wouldnt of been a problem.
1. Yes
2. Yes
3. Yes (as far as I know anyhow)
4. No
5. No
Libra's answers are spot on !
I have played music all my life and been to thousands of great sessions all over the country. Irish Traditional music has never been more popular. I was in Doolin Co. Clare a few sundays ago and the tourists were lapping it up.
It was fantastic to see and the music was 1st class.
Since Riverdance it has exploded in popularity.
2. Yes
3. Yes (as far as I know anyhow)
4. No
5. No
Libra's answers are spot on !
I have played music all my life and been to thousands of great sessions all over the country. Irish Traditional music has never been more popular. I was in Doolin Co. Clare a few sundays ago and the tourists were lapping it up.
It was fantastic to see and the music was 1st class.
Since Riverdance it has exploded in popularity.
Glengirl: I don't know what parts of Ireland you have visited, but that is most definately not the case in SW Donegal......we welcome all musicians, the more the merrier
Are u a musician ?
70Libra: 1. Yes
2. Yes
3. Yes (as far as I know anyhow)
4. No
5. No
But, it probably depends on where.
2. Yes
3. Yes (as far as I know anyhow)
4. No
5. No
But, it probably depends on where.
My point.....Depends on where....
RobertGill: Are u a musician ?
No, but I come from an area steeped in traditional Irish music. We hold fiddle schools during the summer, with people travelling from as far away as Japan. Some of the top fiddle players in Ireland are in our village during that time, and when a session is on in the evenings, they will adapt their playing to suit those joining in
biggles90000: In our local there back in August one of the lads went to play the bongos during an Irish music festival that we hold every year and the bar manager told him to stop playing becasue the band was playin a few years ago it wouldnt of been a problem.
I do understand, bongo's don't fit into Trad Irish music very well, on a local seen,
Any musician needs to be respectful of the local music tradition, & if a musician want's to join-in, he/she needs to be able to go with that tradition, & never against it.
Glengirl: No, but I come from an area steeped in traditional Irish music. We hold fiddle schools during the summer, with people travelling from as far away as Japan. Some of the top fiddle players in Ireland are in our village during that time, and when a session is on in the evenings, they will adapt their playing to suit those joining in
I love the famous Donegal fiddle players and of course Altan !!
It doesn't get much better than that.
tallman51: 1. Yes
2. Yes
3. Yes (as far as I know anyhow)
4. No
5. No
Libra's answers are spot on !
I have played music all my life and been to thousands of great sessions all over the country. Irish Traditional music has never been more popular. I was in Doolin Co. Clare a few sundays ago and the tourists were lapping it up.
It was fantastic to see and the music was 1st class.
Since Riverdance it has exploded in popularity.
2. Yes
3. Yes (as far as I know anyhow)
4. No
5. No
Libra's answers are spot on !
I have played music all my life and been to thousands of great sessions all over the country. Irish Traditional music has never been more popular. I was in Doolin Co. Clare a few sundays ago and the tourists were lapping it up.
It was fantastic to see and the music was 1st class.
Since Riverdance it has exploded in popularity.
Was there musicians from other country's, playing with local's ?
tallman51: I love the famous Donegal fiddle players and of course Altan !!
It doesn't get much better than that.
It doesn't get much better than that.
I have seen Altan playing outside the pub on a Sunday afternoon, after a concert the night before.......that's as good as it gets
RobertGill: I do understand, bongo's don't fit into Trad Irish music very well, on a local seen,
Any musician needs to be respectful of the local music tradition, & if a musician want's to join-in, he/she needs to be able to go with that tradition, & never against it.
Any musician needs to be respectful of the local music tradition, & if a musician want's to join-in, he/she needs to be able to go with that tradition, & never against it.
Years ago everbody was aloud to play what ever intrustment they liked yea man they only put a stop it last year dont know why.
Glengirl: No, but I come from an area steeped in traditional Irish music. We hold fiddle schools during the summer, with people travelling from as far away as Japan. Some of the top fiddle players in Ireland are in our village during that time, and when a session is on in the evenings, they will adapt their playing to suit those joining in
sounds good, thanks !!!
RobertGill: Was there musicians from other country's, playing with local's ?
YES...............nearly always.
The only time I have seen someone not made welcome was because they just could not play. Years ago anyone could gp out a buy a bodhran and just join in but those days are over (thank god).
I love to hear a good bodhran player in with fiddle and accordian. It's that real De Dannan type of sound.
biggles90000: Years ago everbody was aloud to play what ever intrustment they liked yea man they only put a stop it last year dont know why.
I travel to a lot of Festival's out-side of Ireland, & the view of many is, that Musicians in Ireland are very much, not interested in out-siders, & this is the view from other Irishmen musicians, many that have been away from there birth place for a wile, & only go back for holidays,
RobertGill: I travel to a lot of Festival's out-side of Ireland, & the view of many is, that Musicians in Ireland are very much, not interested in out-siders, & this is the view from other Irishmen musicians, many that have been away from there birth place for a wile, & only go back for holidays,
So are you basing your original questions on hearsay, or have you personal experience of it in Ireland?
tallman51: YES...............nearly always.
The only time I have seen someone not made welcome was because they just could not play. Years ago anyone could gp out a buy a bodhran and just join in but those days are over (thank god).
I love to hear a good bodhran player in with fiddle and accordian. It's that real De Dannan type of sound.
The only time I have seen someone not made welcome was because they just could not play. Years ago anyone could gp out a buy a bodhran and just join in but those days are over (thank god).
I love to hear a good bodhran player in with fiddle and accordian. It's that real De Dannan type of sound.
Yes, anyone joining-in needs to be able to play to a reasonable standard, & the bodhran is an instrument that can set the rhythm, or keep a rhythm constant for struggling players, fiddle on some tunes can drone along, & go for notes, as long as one stays in key,
standard is always good in Ireland, & there needs to be rules, but also, an openness to people learning, & other well accomplished musicians,
Thanks....
Glengirl: So are you basing your original questions on hearsay, or have you personal experience of it in Ireland?
No, not hearsay, I visit Ireland & seen this for myself,I have taken this up with some other musicians there,but tend to ask carefully, & not an open discussion between many, just a one to one conversation, some don't want to discuses it, maybe u can ask around & get a general opinion for your self, its very interesting, my visits have all been to the south, & Dublin.
RobertGill: sounds good, thanks !!!
one may find a different atmosphere where a local music school is trying to operate a business, & a tolerant local pub helps out with the help of local musicians,
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The issue in my travels has often been photo's are frond apron, & Irish music is a "CLOSED SHOP" Piss-off...out-siders, & take your cameras with u.., well, u can't have it both ways,
1/ Are tourist's welcome in Irish music sessions, ?
2/ Are Travailing musicians from other countrys welcome to play in-with Irish musician's,?
3/ Can tourists take pictures of Irish musician's playing music,?
4/ Are Ireland's pub's closed to outsiders ?,
5/ Is trad-Irish music for local Irish people only ?,
I seen first-hand the reaction from musicians when someone takes a photo,
& I seen fist-hand the reaction of musicians when they are asked if someone can sit-in on a session & play music with them, sure, some tunes are not Jam'a'ball, meaning, one need's to know the tune,& be able to play-it well, one can't play alone, not knowing the tune,but with tunes that one can jam-to, & tunes that are known, many friends, & very good player of banjo & fiddle have been turned away,