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Apr 15, 2011 3:10 PM CST Want to balance the budget and get us out of debt?
chris27292729
chris27292729chris27292729IOS island, South Aegean Greece93 Threads 15,811 Posts
The majority in USA and all majorities in countries all over the world believe GWB was a bad President, and on top of it an idiot as well. I know,i know,you are the exception and very proud for the legacy he left behind.laugh laugh rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing
gardenhackle: Might I recommend you try taking Ginko Biloba as a daily dietary supplement?
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Apr 15, 2011 3:22 PM CST Want to balance the budget and get us out of debt?
mousencat
mousencatmousencatspringfield, Missouri USA1 Threads 18 Posts
you want to fix the US?

kill off all the old senators and congressman and all the members of the skull and bones and you might have a chance..politically its impossible, the corruption is an infestation that cannot be eradicated simply
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Apr 15, 2011 3:33 PM CST Want to balance the budget and get us out of debt?
Albertaghost
AlbertaghostAlbertaghostCultural Wasteland, Alberta Canada76 Threads 5 Polls 5,914 Posts
chris27292729: The majority in USA and all majorities in countries all over the world believe GWB was a bad President, and on top of it an idiot as well. I know,i know,you are the exception and very proud for the legacy he left behind.


I thought you were going to show us how everybody knew there was no WMDs in Iraq prior to the invasion though. Hell, even the head UNSCOM said he couldn't verify that there were none yet you did know.

How did you know this when the people on the ground in Iraq did not?
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Apr 15, 2011 4:19 PM CST Want to balance the budget and get us out of debt?
gardenhackle
gardenhacklegardenhackleStratford, Connecticut USA55 Threads 9 Polls 2,067 Posts
chris27292729: The majority in USA and all majorities in countries all over the world believe GWB was a bad President, and on top of it an idiot as well. I know,i know,you are the exception and very proud for the legacy he left behind.


That is an excellent example of logical fallacy appeal to the majority.

But seriously.... why do people with an IQ dozens of points lower than George Bush call him an idiot? That's always puzzled me.
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Apr 15, 2011 4:21 PM CST Want to balance the budget and get us out of debt?
chris27292729
chris27292729chris27292729IOS island, South Aegean Greece93 Threads 15,811 Posts
Oh come on, put your proofs aside and admit as the majority of the world think,that the invation in Iraq was a big mistake by that idiot GWB.Asking everybody to show you,this and that,who the hell do you think you are,acting like a professor in a military academy.
Albertaghost: I thought you were going to show us how everybody knew there was no WMDs in Iraq prior to the invasion though. Hell, even the head UNSCOM said he couldn't verify that there were none yet you did know.

How did you know this when the people on the ground in Iraq did not?
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Apr 15, 2011 4:24 PM CST Want to balance the budget and get us out of debt?
Albertaghost
AlbertaghostAlbertaghostCultural Wasteland, Alberta Canada76 Threads 5 Polls 5,914 Posts
chris27292729: Oh come on, put your proofs aside and admit as the majority of the world think,that the invation in Iraq was a big mistake by that idiot GWB.Asking everybody to show you,this and that,who the hell do you think you are,acting like a professor in a military academy.


You said that everybody KNEW there was no WMDs in Iraq prior to the invasion.

I simply asked you to explain how you knew as the head inspector right in Iraq,on the ground, with his teams of guys running all over the place with specialized equipment didn't know.

So, once you explain this discrepency we might move on.

So, how did you know when Blix did not?
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Apr 15, 2011 4:30 PM CST Want to balance the budget and get us out of debt?
chris27292729
chris27292729chris27292729IOS island, South Aegean Greece93 Threads 15,811 Posts
And do you think you have a high IQ ???,put in good use,and GWB thought having a higher one but did not put in good use.Its bad thing for people like you to think that they are very clever,to react the way you react,you reacting like your beloved GWB,bringing yourself to his level.-
gardenhackle: That is an excellent example of logical fallacy appeal to the majority.

But seriously.... why do people with an IQ dozens of points lower than George Bush call him an idiot? That's always puzzled me.
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Apr 15, 2011 4:39 PM CST Want to balance the budget and get us out of debt?
gardenhackle
gardenhacklegardenhackleStratford, Connecticut USA55 Threads 9 Polls 2,067 Posts
chris27292729: And do you think you have a high IQ ???,put in good use,and GWB thought having a higher one but did not put in good use.Its bad thing for people like you to think that they are very clever,to react the way you react,you reacting like your beloved GWB,bringing yourself to his level.-


Well, I tried to explain the irony in you calling George Bush an idiot. Saying you don't like him or hate his politics or hate what he did or just hate him, personally, is all just fair opinion, but when you call someone an idiot, you put your own intelligence on the table for evaluation and consideration because you are implying that they are dumber than you are - and in a case like this where that very obviously isn't true...

Well, I tried to explain it to you, anyway. Don't say I never gave you anything.

cheers
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Apr 15, 2011 4:51 PM CST Want to balance the budget and get us out of debt?
chris27292729
chris27292729chris27292729IOS island, South Aegean Greece93 Threads 15,811 Posts
To my way of thinking GWB is an idiot,to you maybe an Einstein.We cannot all agreed with GWB's brilliance.-cheers
gardenhackle: Well, I tried to explain the irony in you calling George Bush an idiot. Saying you don't like him or hate his politics or hate what he did or just hate him, personally, is all just fair opinion, but when you call someone an idiot, you put your own intelligence on the table for evaluation and consideration because you are implying that they are dumber than you are - and in a case like this where that very obviously isn't true...

Well, I tried to explain it to you, anyway. Don't say I never gave you anything.
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Apr 15, 2011 4:54 PM CST Want to balance the budget and get us out of debt?
Albertaghost
AlbertaghostAlbertaghostCultural Wasteland, Alberta Canada76 Threads 5 Polls 5,914 Posts
chris27292729: To my way of thinking GWB is an idiot,to you maybe an Einstein.We cannot all agreed with GWB's brilliance.-


You find the proof that the world knew Iraq didn't have WMDs prior to the invasion yet?sleep
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Apr 15, 2011 6:21 PM CST Want to balance the budget and get us out of debt?
FreddyFudpucker
FreddyFudpuckerFreddyFudpuckerObamaville, Indiana USA10,179 Posts
chris27292729: And do you think you have a high IQ ???,put in good use,and GWB thought having a higher one but did not put in good use.Its bad thing for people like you to think that they are very clever,to react the way you react,you reacting like your beloved GWB,bringing yourself to his level.-


I heard on "The View" (a bunch of female lefties) bragging how high of an intellect Barrak Obama had...then someone piped in w/a comment, "funny, G.W. Bush went to the same univesity" professor laugh And Bush did release his transcripts, I do believe. grin
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Apr 16, 2011 1:05 AM CST Want to balance the budget and get us out of debt?
Ferwynne
FerwynneFerwynneGreenfield, Massachusetts USA1 Threads 18 Posts
wonderworker:

P.S.
I'll trade Ya a bushel of corn and a Speckled Bird Dog Pup for that automatic pistol ya' got thar'



That bushel of corn is Genetically Modified, and will eventually poison that bird dog pup, thanks to Monsanto...Who owns a bigger slice of American Pie than all the foreign countries we're indebted to, combined.

Just sayin'.
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Apr 16, 2011 6:16 PM CST Want to balance the budget and get us out of debt?
FreddyFudpucker
FreddyFudpuckerFreddyFudpuckerObamaville, Indiana USA10,179 Posts
Albertaghost: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lt0hAba0-iE

(It happens around 1:18)

""Elisabeth Hasselbeck used an argument by Joy Behar to point out George W. Bush's intelligence, stunning her co-host into a rare silence on 'The View' (weekdays, syndicated).

The unexpected reversal began when Behar cited President Barack Obama's Ivy League education as a reason for his intelligence. "President Obama went to Harvard Law School and Columbia University, okay? He is a very intelligent guy," said Behar

Then, Hasselbeck saw an opportunity to spring a trap and promote Bush, who Behar has been openly critical of in the past. "Well, doesn't that make President Bush very smart as well then? Yeah?" she asked, tacitly referring to Bush's Ivy League eduction at Yale University and Harvard Business School.

Behar blinked, paused reflectively, then admitted, "You got me! She got me on that one!"""
thumbs up laugh
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Apr 16, 2011 6:16 PM CST Want to balance the budget and get us out of debt?
FreddyFudpucker
FreddyFudpuckerFreddyFudpuckerObamaville, Indiana USA10,179 Posts
Albertaghost: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lt0hAba0-iE

(It happens around 1:18)

""Elisabeth Hasselbeck used an argument by Joy Behar to point out George W. Bush's intelligence, stunning her co-host into a rare silence on 'The View' (weekdays, syndicated).

The unexpected reversal began when Behar cited President Barack Obama's Ivy League education as a reason for his intelligence. "President Obama went to Harvard Law School and Columbia University, okay? He is a very intelligent guy," said Behar

Then, Hasselbeck saw an opportunity to spring a trap and promote Bush, who Behar has been openly critical of in the past. "Well, doesn't that make President Bush very smart as well then? Yeah?" she asked, tacitly referring to Bush's Ivy League eduction at Yale University and Harvard Business School.

Behar blinked, paused reflectively, then admitted, "You got me! She got me on that one!"""
thumbs up laugh
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Apr 16, 2011 6:17 PM CST Want to balance the budget and get us out of debt?
FreddyFudpucker
FreddyFudpuckerFreddyFudpuckerObamaville, Indiana USA10,179 Posts
chris27292729: All the comments about GWB and Obama,(same university,high or low IQ ) are meaningless,the whole process comes down to one thing,COMPARISON.Between Clinton and GWB who was the best for USA and the world.Between GWB and Obama who is going to be??? Still to be answered.What Presidents leave behind??,only their legacy.


And how the legacy is written...and by whom.
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Apr 16, 2011 11:31 PM CST Want to balance the budget and get us out of debt?
gininitaly
gininitalygininitalyPadova, Veneto Italy23 Threads 2,454 Posts
hmmm .....

According to statements in the report, there have been twelve presidents over the past 50 years, from F. D. Roosevelt to G. W. Bush who were all rated based on scholarly achievements, writings that they alone produced without aid of staff, their ability to speak with clarity, and several other psychological factors which were then scored in the Swanson/Crain system of intelligence ranking.

The study determined the following IQs of each president as accurate to within five percentage points:

147 Franklin D. Roosevelt (D)
132 Harry Truman (D)
122 Dwight D. Eisenhower (R)
174 John F. Kennedy (D)
126 Lyndon B. Johnson (D)
155 Richard M. Nixon (R)
121 Gerald Ford (R)
175 James E. Carter (D)
105 Ronald Reagan (R)
098 George HW Bush (R)
182 William J. Clinton (D)
091 George W. Bush (R)
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Apr 17, 2011 12:28 AM CST Want to balance the budget and get us out of debt?
Sparky55
Sparky55Sparky55Somewhere, Afghanistan48 Threads 1 Polls 2,678 Posts
gininitaly: .....

According to statements in the report, there have been twelve presidents over the past 50 years, from F. D. Roosevelt to G. W. Bush who were all rated based on scholarly achievements, writings that they alone produced without aid of staff, their ability to speak with clarity, and several other psychological factors which were then scored in the Swanson/Crain system of intelligence ranking.

The study determined the following IQs of each president as accurate to within five percentage points:

147 Franklin D. Roosevelt (D)
132 Harry Truman (D)
122 Dwight D. Eisenhower (R)
174 John F. Kennedy (D)
126 Lyndon B. Johnson (D)
155 Richard M. Nixon (R)
121 Gerald Ford (R)
175 James E. Carter (D)
105 Ronald Reagan (R)
098 George HW Bush (R)
182 William J. Clinton (D)
091 George W. Bush (R)


According to Snopes this is a hoax (not sure if you meant it as a joke or not). The normal distribution of IQ scores goes like this and there's no meaningful rating above 150 or below 50:

Over 140 - Genius or near genius
120 - 140 - Very superior intelligence
110 - 119 - Superior intelligence
90 - 109 - Normal or average intelligence
80 - 89 - Dullness
70 - 79 - Borderline deficiency
Under 70 - Definite feeble-mindedness

Also, very odd that the Presidents lised show almost exclusively republicans on the lower end of the scale.

182 William J. Clinton (D)
175 James E. Carter (D)
174 John F. Kennedy (D)
155 Richard M. Nixon (R)
147 Franklin D. Roosevelt (D)
132 Harry Truman (D)
126 Lyndon B. Johnson (D)
122 Dwight D. Eisenhower (R)
121 Gerald Ford (R)
105 Ronald Reagan (R)
098 George HW Bush (R)
091 George W. Bush (R)

laugh
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Apr 17, 2011 12:45 AM CST Want to balance the budget and get us out of debt?
gininitaly
gininitalygininitalyPadova, Veneto Italy23 Threads 2,454 Posts
maybe, maybe not wink
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Apr 17, 2011 4:33 AM CST Want to balance the budget and get us out of debt?
Sparky55
Sparky55Sparky55Somewhere, Afghanistan48 Threads 1 Polls 2,678 Posts
Albertaghost: Of course mousencat is going to tell us all how Bush pulled off 911 right.
Somewhere in there is a post with a message other than a rant. Find it please and get back to us.


Right, let me know if you or anyone else finds it. laugh
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Apr 17, 2011 6:20 AM CST Want to balance the budget and get us out of debt?
FreddyFudpucker
FreddyFudpuckerFreddyFudpuckerObamaville, Indiana USA10,179 Posts
Sparky55: According to Snopes this is a hoax (not sure if you meant it as a joke or not). The normal distribution of IQ scores goes like this and there's no meaningful rating above 150 or below 50:

Over 140 - Genius or near genius
120 - 140 - Very superior intelligence
110 - 119 - Superior intelligence
90 - 109 - Normal or average intelligence
80 - 89 - Dullness
70 - 79 - Borderline deficiency
Under 70 - Definite feeble-mindedness

Also, very odd that the Presidents lised show almost exclusively republicans on the lower end of the scale.

182 William J. Clinton (D)
175 James E. Carter (D)
174 John F. Kennedy (D)
155 Richard M. Nixon (R)
147 Franklin D. Roosevelt (D)
132 Harry Truman (D)
126 Lyndon B. Johnson (D)
122 Dwight D. Eisenhower (R)
121 Gerald Ford (R)
105 Ronald Reagan (R)
098 George HW Bush (R)
091 George W. Bush (R)


Looks more like some narcissism scale. laugh If so, I'd put Clinton at the top.
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