what does the cross mean to you? (202)
baldydudefermoy, Cork Ireland164 Threads 4,643 Postsirish84: i think we kinda went off topic here
well i dont do religion or politics so i couldn't be arsed reading back over the pages irish84: i think we kinda went off topic here
Do you think?gleneagle: Well Blarneykite's the lawyer so his job will be to give us cover for what ever the hell we feel like doing to fullfill our mission and his objectives. If that makes us animals then I suppose that's a cross we will have to bear.
And thats us full circle and back to the cross again... So do you believe in god , lads??
happdude: I don't think Wikipedia is anti-religious, and that quote really doesn't appear to be his.
You believe all you read on wikipedia,,
Einstein was jewish by birth and although he he came to the conclusion that he couldn't account for creation through scientific theories,, I have thought about it myself and for me it is impossible to believe that the universe just happened without divine intervention,
I don't try to convert people but if you have a bit of time just think about it and see what you can come up with to explain how it all happened or even more important what or who started it happening.
blarneykite: And thats us full circle and back to the cross again... So do you believe in god , lads??
I had a good chuckle to myself when I was putting that line in about carrying the cross. I dont believe in God but I believe in the teachings of science such as Darwin, Einstein and Steve Hawkins who wrote an excellent book in 2010 called the "Grand Design" Its heavy going but well worth the read without too much theoretical physics on quantum theory.blarneykite: And thats us full circle and back to the cross again... So do you believe in god , lads??
we believe in right and wrong
It's the symbol of a fishing club that was founded 2000+ years ago by a well meaning man and twelve of his friends. The club kind of veered off course over the ensuing years (namely, they stopped fishing after the death of their founder). But they went on to become the richest fishing club in the world, thanks to a few tall tales which were spread about their founder.
stanley8m: You believe all you read on wikipedia,,
Einstein was jewish by birth and although he he came to the conclusion that he couldn't account for creation through scientific theories,, I have thought about it myself and for me it is impossible to believe that the universe just happened without divine intervention,
I don't try to convert people but if you have a bit of time just think about it and see what you can come up with to explain how it all happened or even more important what or who started it happening.
if i put water in a barrel, put on a lid nd leave it there after bout 12months it'll be full with all kinds of life milldue, germs, bacteria etc does that make me a barrel god?? Einstein was jewish by birth and although he he came to the conclusion that he couldn't account for creation through scientific theories,, I have thought about it myself and for me it is impossible to believe that the universe just happened without divine intervention,
I don't try to convert people but if you have a bit of time just think about it and see what you can come up with to explain how it all happened or even more important what or who started it happening.
gleneagle: I had a good chuckle to myself when I was putting that line in about carrying the cross. I dont believe in God but I believe in the teachings of science such as Darwin, Einstein and Steve Hawkins who wrote an excellent book in 2010 called the "Grand Design" Its heavy going but well worth the read without too much theoretical physics on quantum theory.
I like Hawkins, and Richard Dawkins too... HIs "God delusion" book is greatstanley8m: You believe all you read on wikipedia,,
Einstein was jewish by birth and although he he came to the conclusion that he couldn't account for creation through scientific theories,, I have thought about it myself and for me it is impossible to believe that the universe just happened without divine intervention,
I don't try to convert people but if you have a bit of time just think about it and see what you can come up with to explain how it all happened or even more important what or who started it happening.
Einstein was jewish by birth and although he he came to the conclusion that he couldn't account for creation through scientific theories,, I have thought about it myself and for me it is impossible to believe that the universe just happened without divine intervention,
I don't try to convert people but if you have a bit of time just think about it and see what you can come up with to explain how it all happened or even more important what or who started it happening.
I just grabbed a quote from wikipedia, you can't even verify the source of your quotes. He never said he couldn't account for the start of the universe through science. Anyway, Einstein isn't the pope of science, I believe in a rational, scientific start to the universe, and while you may not be tryingto convert me, you don't seem to respect that belief.
baldydude: if i put water in a barrel, put on a lid nd leave it there after bout 12months it'll be full with all kinds of life milldue, germs, bacteria etc does that make me a barrel god??
All praise the Barrel, bringer of life, maker of slime
baldydude: if i put water in a barrel, put on a lid nd leave it there after bout 12months it'll be full with all kinds of life milldue, germs, bacteria etc does that make me a barrel god??
Ok Mr Barrel God but Who created the water,, the barrel and you to put them all together? thanks for proving my point.
happdude: that doesn't prove your point at all!
It does, as there is no point to prove... just like there's no godhappdude: I just grabbed a quote from wikipedia, you can't even verify the source of your quotes. He never said he couldn't account for the start of the universe through science. Anyway, Einstein isn't the pope of science, I believe in a rational, scientific start to the universe, and while you may not be tryingto convert me, you don't seem to respect that belief.
I have not disrespected your beliefs just asked you to think about them. take it easy happdude,, I have my beliefs,, you have yours,, no worries.
happdude: that doesn't prove your point at all!
I think it does.
happdude: that doesn't prove your point at all!
we cant conclusively be sure there is or isn't a creator and we never will know for sure, even if we discover how it happened that still leaves us with why it happened, in quantum physics someone comes up with an idea others like it and it becomes accepeted by all, sounds alot like religion to mehappdude: NO IT DOESN'T TIMES A MILLION PLUS INFINITY
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