The Engagement Ring ( Archived) (153)

Jul 6, 2011 2:27 PM CST The Engagement Ring
montecito
montecitomontecitoLovely, New Jersey USA96 Threads 2 Polls 5,086 Posts
Gentlemen:

1. Does it matter who broke off the engagement whether you asked her to give the ring back to you?

2. Would you expect her to offer to give the ring back regardless of the cost?


Ladies:

1. Would you keep the ring because it wasn't a gift, it was an engagement ring?

2. If you kept the ring, would that be how you got your revenge on him for breaking up the relationship, if he broke it off?

3. Would your conscience bother you if you kept the ring?

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Jul 6, 2011 2:28 PM CST The Engagement Ring
montecito
montecitomontecitoLovely, New Jersey USA96 Threads 2 Polls 5,086 Posts
montecito: Gentlemen:

1. Does it matter who broke off the engagement whether you asked her to give the ring back to you?

2. Would you expect her to offer to give the ring back regardless of the cost?Ladies:

1. Would you keep the ring because it wasn't a gift, it was an engagement ring?

2. If you kept the ring, would that be how you got your revenge on him for breaking up the relationship, if he broke it off?

3. Would your conscience bother you if you kept the ring?



I would give the ring back before he even asked for it. An engagement ring is a bond of love between two people.
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Jul 6, 2011 2:30 PM CST The Engagement Ring
blarneykite
blarneykiteblarneykiteSomewhere, Carlow Ireland31 Threads 3,901 Posts
montecito: I would give the ring back before he even asked for it. An engagement ring is a bond of love between two people.
I believe the rule of thumb is if she breaks off the engagement she's meant to return the ring, if he does... toughlaugh
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Jul 6, 2011 2:32 PM CST The Engagement Ring
Actractorguy
ActractorguyActractorguyTims Ford Lake, Tennessee USA26 Threads 7 Polls 2,089 Posts
As a man if I broke it off I could not expect it back. If she broke it off then I would expect it back.

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Jul 6, 2011 2:35 PM CST The Engagement Ring
Glatlol
GlatlolGlatlolDublin, Ireland2 Threads 5,358 Posts
montecito: Gentlemen:

1. Does it matter who broke off the engagement whether you asked her to give the ring back to you?

2. Would you expect her to offer to give the ring back regardless of the cost?Ladies:

1. Would you keep the ring because it wasn't a gift, it was an engagement ring?

2. If you kept the ring, would that be how you got your revenge on him for breaking up the relationship, if he broke it off?

3. Would your conscience bother you if you kept the ring?




I gave back the engagement ring to an ex fiance, it didnt belong to me anymore once the engagement was broken.

When I seperated from my husband I kept my engagement ring, we had married therefore I hadnt broken any agreement so the ring was mine.
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Jul 6, 2011 2:35 PM CST The Engagement Ring
Ccincy
CcincyCcincyCincinnati, Ohio USA77 Threads 20,535 Posts
Regardless of who broke it off I would give it back.
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Jul 6, 2011 2:39 PM CST The Engagement Ring
montecito
montecitomontecitoLovely, New Jersey USA96 Threads 2 Polls 5,086 Posts
Glatlol: I gave back the engagement ring to an ex fiance, it didnt belong to me anymore once the engagement was broken.

When I seperated from my husband I kept my engagement ring, we had married therefore I hadnt broken any agreement so the ring was mine.


Glatlol: I think that's good reasoning.

Response to previous posters: I know the rule is that she can keep it if he breaks the engagement but why would a woman want to keep it. In the article I posted it's obvious she wants to keep it because it cost $76,000. What kind of guy sends a $76,000 through the mail....doh
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Jul 6, 2011 2:40 PM CST The Engagement Ring
mustbnutz
mustbnutzmustbnutzKingman, Arizona USA33 Threads 5 Polls 3,730 Posts
Ccincy: Regardless of who broke it off I would give it back.




I pretty much would not want it back......what for?
Put it on the mantle?Maybe go sell it for about one third what you paid for it....Let her keep it...who cares....Just another thing to argue about.
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Jul 6, 2011 2:43 PM CST The Engagement Ring
blarneykite
blarneykiteblarneykiteSomewhere, Carlow Ireland31 Threads 3,901 Posts
montecito: Glatlol: I think that's good reasoning.

Response to previous posters: I know the rule is that she can keep it if he breaks the engagement but why would a woman want to keep it. In the article I posted it's obvious she wants to keep it because it cost $76,000. What kind of guy sends a $76,000 through the mail....
One with way too much money, i guessdunno
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Jul 6, 2011 2:45 PM CST The Engagement Ring
montecito
montecitomontecitoLovely, New Jersey USA96 Threads 2 Polls 5,086 Posts
mustbnutz: I pretty much would not want it back......what for?
Put it on the mantle?Maybe go sell it for about one third what you paid for it....Let her keep it...who cares....Just another thing to argue about.


If it's a gemstone, it wouldn't have lost any value so you wouldn't have to sell it for less then what you paid for it. You make a good point that if it's going to turn into a lawsuit, like the one in the article, would it be worth it..If $76,000 is only a drop in the bucket for the guy he'd probably chalk it up to just another gold digger.
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Jul 6, 2011 2:45 PM CST The Engagement Ring
Glatlol
GlatlolGlatlolDublin, Ireland2 Threads 5,358 Posts
montecito: Glatlol: I think that's good reasoning.

Response to previous posters: I know the rule is that she can keep it if he breaks the engagement but why would a woman want to keep it. In the article I posted it's obvious she wants to keep it because it cost $76,000. What kind of guy sends a $76,000 through the mail....


I think the law varies in this, it can be considered a conditional gift, not becoming the property of the woman until after the condition (marriage) is met. Therefore has to be returned to the man.
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Jul 6, 2011 2:46 PM CST The Engagement Ring
montecito
montecitomontecitoLovely, New Jersey USA96 Threads 2 Polls 5,086 Posts
blarneykite: One with way too much money, i guess


Too much money and not enough brains... doh
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Jul 6, 2011 2:48 PM CST The Engagement Ring
montecito
montecitomontecitoLovely, New Jersey USA96 Threads 2 Polls 5,086 Posts
Glatlol: I think the law varies in this, it can be considered a conditional gift, not becoming the property of the woman until after the condition (marriage) is met. Therefore has to be returned to the man.


That's really interesting and in my opinion, makes sense. It wouldn't necessarily rule out gold diggers but if she makes it to the alter, he might have an honest person....but there's no guarantee....laugh
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Jul 6, 2011 2:58 PM CST The Engagement Ring
Boban1
Boban1Boban1bigplace, Central Serbia Serbia144 Threads 5 Polls 18,789 Posts
montecito: Gentlemen:

1. Does it matter who broke off the engagement whether you asked her to give the ring back to you?

2. Would you expect her to offer to give the ring back regardless of the cost?Ladies:

1. Would you keep the ring because it wasn't a gift, it was an engagement ring?

2. If you kept the ring, would that be how you got your revenge on him for breaking up the relationship, if he broke it off?

3. Would your conscience bother you if you kept the ring?



I would keep the ring....professor
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Jul 6, 2011 3:04 PM CST The Engagement Ring
montecito
montecitomontecitoLovely, New Jersey USA96 Threads 2 Polls 5,086 Posts
Boban1: I would keep the ring....


Hmmmmm....Meaning, if you were a woman, you would keep the ring???? But if you were a man, and she cheated on you while you were engaged, you wouldn't have a problem letting her keep the ring?
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Jul 6, 2011 3:06 PM CST The Engagement Ring
Boban1
Boban1Boban1bigplace, Central Serbia Serbia144 Threads 5 Polls 18,789 Posts
montecito: Hmmmmm....Meaning, if you were a woman, you would keep the ring???? But if you were a man, and she cheated on you while you were engaged, you wouldn't have a problem letting her keep the ring?

The girls get the ring???wow
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Jul 6, 2011 3:07 PM CST The Engagement Ring
montecito
montecitomontecitoLovely, New Jersey USA96 Threads 2 Polls 5,086 Posts
Boban1: The girls get the ring???


How very kind of you BO.....applause
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Jul 6, 2011 3:07 PM CST The Engagement Ring
Ccincy
CcincyCcincyCincinnati, Ohio USA77 Threads 20,535 Posts
mustbnutz: I pretty much would not want it back......what for?
Put it on the mantle?Maybe go sell it for about one third what you paid for it....Let her keep it...who cares....Just another thing to argue about.



I think it's childish to agrue over something anyway.After all the guy's the one who bought it so I'd just give it back without arguing about.I guess I'm different.laugh
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Jul 6, 2011 3:08 PM CST The Engagement Ring
EagleWoman
EagleWomanEagleWomanMalaga, Andalusia Spain22 Threads 4,719 Posts
montecito: Gentlemen:

1. Does it matter who broke off the engagement whether you asked her to give the ring back to you?

2. Would you expect her to offer to give the ring back regardless of the cost?Ladies:

1. Would you keep the ring because it wasn't a gift, it was an engagement ring?

2. If you kept the ring, would that be how you got your revenge on him for breaking up the relationship, if he broke it off?

3. Would your conscience bother you if you kept the ring?



If the man I'm having a relationship with, gives me a gift (whatever the reason, engagement, marriage, bday etc...)then that's exactely what it is "a gift" ... if he expected it back at some point if circomstances changed (whatever the reason), then it wouldn't be a gift. Same applies if a gave him a gift.
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Jul 6, 2011 3:09 PM CST The Engagement Ring
montecito
montecitomontecitoLovely, New Jersey USA96 Threads 2 Polls 5,086 Posts
montecito: How very kind of you BO.....


But just to let you know, I would force you to take it and if you wouldn't I would give it to a friend of yours or if that didn't work I would sell it and donate the money to someone in need of help. I could never keep the ring. But thanks for the thought.....cheers
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