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Oct 13, 2011 12:02 PM CST California Tragedy
8 Peoples Killed In the Los Angles california By a Terrorist
blues
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Oct 13, 2011 1:58 PM CST California Tragedy
outdoorgirlsun
outdoorgirlsunoutdoorgirlsunSapulpa, Oklahoma USA5 Threads 1,085 Posts
Ali, where did you hear this???? I'm trying to find this out, if true.
my daughter lives there. Tell me where you heard.
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Oct 13, 2011 2:04 PM CST California Tragedy
outdoorgirlsun
outdoorgirlsunoutdoorgirlsunSapulpa, Oklahoma USA5 Threads 1,085 Posts
Nope, disgruntled x husband, shot 8 in a hair salon including his x wife.
They were having a custody battle over their son. It happened in a small town outside L.A.
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Oct 13, 2011 2:09 PM CST California Tragedy
vinny1967
vinny1967vinny1967Dublin, Cork Ireland131 Threads 7 Polls 11,475 Posts
outdoorgirlsun: Nope, disgruntled x husband, shot 8 in a hair salon including his x wife.
They were having a custody battle over their son. It happened in a small town outside L.A.


Very sad for so many families sad flower
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Oct 13, 2011 3:06 PM CST California Tragedy
outdoorgirlsun: Ali, where did you hear this???? I'm trying to find this out, if true.
my daughter lives there. Tell me where you heard.
on the bbc
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Oct 13, 2011 3:28 PM CST California Tragedy
jac379
jac379jac379pontyclun, South Glamorgan, Wales UK25 Threads 3 Polls 12,293 Posts
You're not as green as you are cabbage looking, are you Ali?
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Oct 13, 2011 3:33 PM CST California Tragedy
jac379: You're not as green as you are cabbage looking, are you Ali?
What do u mean? explain plz
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Oct 13, 2011 3:40 PM CST California Tragedy
jac379
jac379jac379pontyclun, South Glamorgan, Wales UK25 Threads 3 Polls 12,293 Posts
ali110: What do u mean? explain plz


It means, I think you deliberately used the word terrorist knowing that in the west the popular, ney prejudiced, image of terrorism is linked with Islam.

I agree that this was an act of terrorism, whoever, whatever the motives, the nationality, the creed of the perpetrator.
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Oct 13, 2011 3:45 PM CST California Tragedy
jac379: It means, I think you deliberately used the word terrorist knowing that in the west the popular, ney prejudiced, image of terrorism is linked with Islam.

I agree that this was an act of terrorism, whoever, whatever the motives, the nationality, the creed of the perpetrator.
Terrorism is Not Linked wth islam but some Evil faced peoples In All religions and Countries, It was a Terrorist Activity to kill innocent peoples
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Oct 13, 2011 4:28 PM CST California Tragedy
jac379
jac379jac379pontyclun, South Glamorgan, Wales UK25 Threads 3 Polls 12,293 Posts
ali110: Terrorism is Not Linked wth islam but some Evil faced peoples In All religions and Countries, It was a Terrorist Activity to kill innocent peoples


I couldn't agree with you more, but you know that's not the way everybody is going to see it.

Sadly, its unlikely that anybody's going to have an epiphanic moment, leave alone enough people for love and tolerance to reign supreme.

coffee
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Oct 13, 2011 4:35 PM CST California Tragedy
lifeisadream
lifeisadreamlifeisadreamMexi Go, Mexico State Mexico156 Threads 20 Polls 16,713 Posts
outdoorgirlsun: Nope, disgruntled x husband, shot 8 in a hair salon including his x wife.
They were having a custody battle over their son. It happened in a small town outside L.A.

Besides a murderer that "husband" was not very smart.
It shows something like:

I do not get our child's custody but neither do you!

doh

Now, who will take care of the boy?

So sad an the story does not end there.

sad flower
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Oct 13, 2011 4:45 PM CST California Tragedy
lifeisadream
lifeisadreamlifeisadreamMexi Go, Mexico State Mexico156 Threads 20 Polls 16,713 Posts
ali110: 8 Peoples Killed In the Los Angles california By a Terrorist

No Ali that was not terrorism.

"...Common definitions of terrorism refer only to those violent acts which are intended to create fear (terror), are perpetrated for a religious, political or ideological goal, and deliberately target or disregard the safety of non-combatants (civilians)..."


It was more domestic violence - even though there were other civilians killed- than terrorism.

wine
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Oct 13, 2011 5:06 PM CST California Tragedy
Raynew1959
Raynew1959Raynew1959Barrington, New Hampshire USA120 Threads 2 Polls 2,218 Posts
ali110: on the bbc


Did you read the complete story Ali?

No where in that story did I see any mention of terrorists.
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Oct 13, 2011 5:07 PM CST California Tragedy
jac379
jac379jac379pontyclun, South Glamorgan, Wales UK25 Threads 3 Polls 12,293 Posts
lifeisadream: No Ali that was not terrorism.

"...Common definitions of terrorism refer only to those violent acts which are intended to create fear (terror), are perpetrated for a religious, political or ideological goal, and deliberately target or disregard the safety of non-combatants (civilians)..."


It was more domestic violence - even though there were other civilians killed- than terrorism.


ideology a system of ideas and ideals forming the basis of an economic or political theory. > the set of beliefs characteristic of a social group or individual. From my trusty Oxford

Academically, Ali is correct in his use of the word terrorism.
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Oct 13, 2011 5:10 PM CST California Tragedy
lifeisadream
lifeisadreamlifeisadreamMexi Go, Mexico State Mexico156 Threads 20 Polls 16,713 Posts
jac379: ideology a system of ideas and ideals forming the basis of an economic or political theory. > the set of beliefs characteristic of a social group or individual. From my trusty Oxford

Academically, Ali is correct in his use of the word terrorism.

Hi Jac1
I did see that and that is why I wrote:

"it is more domestic violence than terrorism"

If the "wife" has not stopped at the salon, the tragedy would have taken place at her home, perhaps.

wine
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Oct 13, 2011 5:14 PM CST California Tragedy
marss
marssmarssmorriston, Florida USA47 Threads 5 Polls 2,606 Posts
jac379: It means, I think you deliberately used the word terrorist knowing that in the west the popular, ney prejudiced, image of terrorism is linked with Islam.

I agree that this was an act of terrorism, whoever, whatever the motives, the nationality, the creed of the perpetrator.
i love the way you quote miss...you are a strong woman..a very admirable trait..you see to be able to ferret out due cause exceptionally well...it is a pleasure to post a forum with you...
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Oct 13, 2011 5:16 PM CST California Tragedy
montecito
montecitomontecitoLovely, New Jersey USA96 Threads 2 Polls 5,086 Posts
lifeisadream: Hi Jac1
I did see that and that is why I wrote:

"it is more domestic violence than terrorism"

If the "wife" has not stopped at the salon, the tragedy would have taken place at her home, perhaps.


To provoke terror onto someone IMO is terrorism.

Merriam Webster's definition:

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Oct 13, 2011 5:24 PM CST California Tragedy
lifeisadream
lifeisadreamlifeisadreamMexi Go, Mexico State Mexico156 Threads 20 Polls 16,713 Posts
To provoke terror onto someone JMO is terrorism.

Can you be sure that the "wife" was afraid of him?

If you want to call it terrorism, it is fine with me.

wine
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Oct 13, 2011 5:32 PM CST California Tragedy
trueheart1941
trueheart1941trueheart1941brentwood essex, Essex, England UK27 Threads 8,005 Posts
just a very sad day .for thos who died...and the family,s they left.....sad flower sad flower sad flower sad flower
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Oct 13, 2011 5:32 PM CST California Tragedy
montecito
montecitomontecitoLovely, New Jersey USA96 Threads 2 Polls 5,086 Posts
lifeisadream: To provoke terror onto someone JMO is terrorism.

Can you be sure that the "wife" was afraid of him?

If you want to call it terrorism, it is fine with me.


Perhaps she wasn't afraid of him before the shooting but I'm willing to bet when she saw him pointing a gun at her that she was afraid of him then.

IMO, when you terrorize someone, you want to create fear in that person.

Bullying is a form of terrorism, IMO.

A boss continually screaming at an employee is a form of terrorism, IMO.

IMO, a terrorist isn't only a person who blows up buildings.

When my husband was drunk he got a shotgun out of the gun cabinet, forced me to the floor and scared the hell out of me. He terrorized me, therefore, he was a terrorist.
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