Barbarians will put man to death because he is the wrong religion (123)
Albertaghost: I doubt they cared. Many just look for a reason to whip the useful idiots into a tither.
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cloud747: what radicals do , does not have anything to do with true islam and/ or muslims.and this is what you don't understand, so they burn quran and they put sanctions on iranians instead of their government
back with your neverending circular Arguments again!Look up what Sanctions have been imposed,then yap!
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worryworry: i wish for peace really but am not seeing it coming,violence is taking over the world.
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Conrad73: back with your neverending circular Arguments again!
Look up what Sanctions have been imposed,then yap!
Look up what Sanctions have been imposed,then yap!
lookup the 400% inflation due to sanctions, which only hurt people ,
and then yap yap
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cloud747: lookup the 400% inflation due to sanctions, which only hurt people ,
and then yap yap
I did,but sadly you haven't!and then yap yap
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cloud747: wat are u on about? do u know?
r u against quran, muslims, iranians, egyptiand pheron or wat?
r u against quran, muslims, iranians, egyptiand pheron or wat?
she is not against u or Islam, ran or anything, she says her mind and which is the truth. Why do the Muslim hate truth? How long are we going to hide the truth? How long are we going to shy away from the fact surrendering the Muslim religion and its practices of violence?
if others are scared of telling the truth that is not for men like me. Religious leaders must keep away from politics but i am so surprised that mosques are the best place for the imams to tell worshipers about America/Iraq war, Israel/Palestine and the right of Iran to develop weapons. Tell the children the truth so even if you are dying you die for the truth.
I suggest imams should spend time teaching worshipers forgiveness and love instead of downloading devilish things into their brain of the worshipers and young people. House of worship should not be use for politics. many Muslims knows the truth but cannot speak out cos of fear, many who tried to express their feelings has been executed, many are fed up with the religion and but cant quite cos of fear. In Christianity if you are no seeing light in what the pastor is saying you simple take other church or even other religion and if the pastor say something centrally to the teaching of the bible any member has the right to rebuke him. If u don’t expose evil how can evil stop?
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Conrad73: You mean they too see CIA,and MOSSAD under every Bed,and in every Wardrobe?
Yes, the Iranians see the CIA all over the place because experience has taught them to keep their eyes open.
Don't forget that the CIA already toppled their democratically elected president once before and set up a brutal dictator over them, just so the west could steal their oil for a couple of decades.
And if that wasn't enough, when the Shah was getting old and losing his grip on the country, instead of letting the people replace him with a democratic government it was the CIA who brought in the Ayatollah and let him set up a fundamentalist Islamic Republic.
This was better for the West because the ensuing conflict could be portrayed as a clash of cultures and religions instead of an imperialist grab to steal the oil of a poor country.
That the CIA aided the rise of the Ayatollah is a matter of public record, although the CIA tries to spin it in a way to suggest that the result was not what they expected or intended.
William Engdahl and Richard Dreyfuss in his book Hostage of Khomeini states that the US was afraid of a communist takeover in Iran because many of the early protestors were Iranian communists. The CIA secretly supported the overthrow of the Shah and to replace him with Pro-American Islamists...recruited by the CIA. The US had the same plan to surround the Soviet Union with hostile Islamic states that were friendly to the US. The CIA was also successful in overthrowing President Bhutto of Pakistan to install General Zia al Haq as the new leader, which changed Pakistan from a secular country into a hotbed of Islamic fundamentalism. It is through Pakistan that the CIA then fought the Soviets in Afghanistan.
So the CIA admits it helped set the Ayatollah in power, but pretends that they thought it would lead to a moderate democratic government. But does the CIA ever set up moderate democratic governments?????? Name one if you can.
More likely the plan worked exactly as planned. Democracy was stifled, and the new regime could be vilified and attacked as being "Islamic fundamentalists".
Thus an imperialist war to steal a poor nation's oil could be presented as a clash between the "good", "christian", west and the "evil" "islamic" east. Just in the same way the Israelis created Hamas and set them up to be the imaginary leaders of Palestine. So that conflict could also be misrepresented as a clash between religions instead of an imperialist land grab.
And it was the CIA's golden boy of the epoch, Sadam Hussein, who immediately launched a CIA backed war against Iran. A war in which the US had furnished the weapons for both sides.
Makes you wonder what the CIA was thinking doesn't it?
All this was made easier by the installation of the MI6/CIA joint venture media outlet Al Jezeera, in Qatar (where the US was already preparing to build its biggest base in the world, and where there are now 10 times more Americans than Qataris).
It's not strange to see the CIA behind every rock and tree wherever oil is concerned. They are certainly there.
What's curious is when people pretend they don't see them.
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its,wild world/crime in action.
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RayfromUSA: Yes, the Iranians see the CIA all over the place because experience has taught them to keep their eyes open.
Don't forget that the CIA already toppled their democratically elected president once before and set up a brutal dictator over them, just so the west could steal their oil for a couple of decades.
And if that wasn't enough, when the Shah was getting old and losing his grip on the country, instead of letting the people replace him with a democratic government it was the CIA who brought in the Ayatollah and let him set up a fundamentalist Islamic Republic.
This was better for the West because the ensuing conflict could be portrayed as a clash of cultures and religions instead of an imperialist grab to steal the oil of a poor country.
That the CIA aided the rise of the Ayatollah is a matter of public record, although the CIA tries to spin it in a way to suggest that the result was not what they expected or intended.
William Engdahl and Richard Dreyfuss in his book Hostage of Khomeini states that the US was afraid of a communist takeover in Iran because many of the early protestors were Iranian communists. The CIA secretly supported the overthrow of the Shah and to replace him with Pro-American Islamists...recruited by the CIA. The US had the same plan to surround the Soviet Union with hostile Islamic states that were friendly to the US. The CIA was also successful in overthrowing President Bhutto of Pakistan to install General Zia al Haq as the new leader, which changed Pakistan from a secular country into a hotbed of Islamic fundamentalism. It is through Pakistan that the CIA then fought the Soviets in Afghanistan.
So the CIA admits it helped set the Ayatollah in power, but pretends that they thought it would lead to a moderate democratic government. But does the CIA ever set up moderate democratic governments?????? Name one if you can.
More likely the plan worked exactly as planned. Democracy was stifled, and the new regime could be vilified and attacked as being "Islamic fundamentalists".
Thus an imperialist war to steal a poor nation's oil could be presented as a clash between the "good", "christian", west and the "evil" "islamic" east. Just in the same way the Israelis created Hamas and set them up to be the imaginary leaders of Palestine. So that conflict could also be misrepresented as a clash between religions instead of an imperialist land grab.
And it was the CIA's golden boy of the epoch, Sadam Hussein, who immediately launched a CIA backed war against Iran. A war in which the US had furnished the weapons for both sides.
Makes you wonder what the CIA was thinking doesn't it?
All this was made easier by the installation of the MI6/CIA joint venture media outlet Al Jezeera, in Qatar (where the US was already preparing to build its biggest base in the world, and where there are now 10 times more Americans than Qataris).
It's not strange to see the CIA behind every rock and tree wherever oil is concerned. They are certainly there.
What's curious is when people pretend they don't see them.
yep,Engdahl!Don't forget that the CIA already toppled their democratically elected president once before and set up a brutal dictator over them, just so the west could steal their oil for a couple of decades.
And if that wasn't enough, when the Shah was getting old and losing his grip on the country, instead of letting the people replace him with a democratic government it was the CIA who brought in the Ayatollah and let him set up a fundamentalist Islamic Republic.
This was better for the West because the ensuing conflict could be portrayed as a clash of cultures and religions instead of an imperialist grab to steal the oil of a poor country.
That the CIA aided the rise of the Ayatollah is a matter of public record, although the CIA tries to spin it in a way to suggest that the result was not what they expected or intended.
William Engdahl and Richard Dreyfuss in his book Hostage of Khomeini states that the US was afraid of a communist takeover in Iran because many of the early protestors were Iranian communists. The CIA secretly supported the overthrow of the Shah and to replace him with Pro-American Islamists...recruited by the CIA. The US had the same plan to surround the Soviet Union with hostile Islamic states that were friendly to the US. The CIA was also successful in overthrowing President Bhutto of Pakistan to install General Zia al Haq as the new leader, which changed Pakistan from a secular country into a hotbed of Islamic fundamentalism. It is through Pakistan that the CIA then fought the Soviets in Afghanistan.
So the CIA admits it helped set the Ayatollah in power, but pretends that they thought it would lead to a moderate democratic government. But does the CIA ever set up moderate democratic governments?????? Name one if you can.
More likely the plan worked exactly as planned. Democracy was stifled, and the new regime could be vilified and attacked as being "Islamic fundamentalists".
Thus an imperialist war to steal a poor nation's oil could be presented as a clash between the "good", "christian", west and the "evil" "islamic" east. Just in the same way the Israelis created Hamas and set them up to be the imaginary leaders of Palestine. So that conflict could also be misrepresented as a clash between religions instead of an imperialist land grab.
And it was the CIA's golden boy of the epoch, Sadam Hussein, who immediately launched a CIA backed war against Iran. A war in which the US had furnished the weapons for both sides.
Makes you wonder what the CIA was thinking doesn't it?
All this was made easier by the installation of the MI6/CIA joint venture media outlet Al Jezeera, in Qatar (where the US was already preparing to build its biggest base in the world, and where there are now 10 times more Americans than Qataris).
It's not strange to see the CIA behind every rock and tree wherever oil is concerned. They are certainly there.
What's curious is when people pretend they don't see them.
Nuff said!
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Conrad73: yep,Engdahl!
Nuff said!
He has openly affiliated himself with perennial presidential candidate Lyndon H. LaRouche Jr.Nuff said!
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Conrad73: He has openly affiliated himself with perennial presidential candidate Lyndon H. LaRouche Jr.
and a GlobalResearch-Contributor to boot! another one who sees Conspiracies under his Bed and in the Wardrobe daily!
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Conrad73: He has openly affiliated himself with perennial presidential candidate Lyndon H. LaRouche Jr.
Not me buddy. I've been an enemy of LaRouche for decades. Even back when he was pretending to be a Communist and his cult called itself the US Labor Party.
That was way back before his overnight morph into a supposed champion of free enterprize and neo-con values.
And he's flip-flopped several times since then. Always trying to present himself as the champion of whatever political breeze is prevailing at the moment.
It wouldn't surprise me if LaRouche himself were a CIA asset.
But, having said that. Like other cult leaders and politicians, sometimes LaRouche accidentally does use a little bit of truth in the process of pushing his big lie.
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RayfromUSA: Not me buddy. I've been an enemy of LaRouche for decades. Even back when he was pretending to be a Communist and his cult called itself the US Labor Party.
That was way back before his overnight morph into a supposed champion of free enterprize and neo-con values.
And he's flip-flopped several times since then. Always trying to present himself as the champion of whatever political breeze is prevailing at the moment.
It wouldn't surprise me if LaRouche himself were a CIA asset.
But, having said that. Like other cult leaders and politicians, sometimes LaRouche accidentally does use a little bit of truth in the process of pushing his big lie.
That was way back before his overnight morph into a supposed champion of free enterprize and neo-con values.
And he's flip-flopped several times since then. Always trying to present himself as the champion of whatever political breeze is prevailing at the moment.
It wouldn't surprise me if LaRouche himself were a CIA asset.
But, having said that. Like other cult leaders and politicians, sometimes LaRouche accidentally does use a little bit of truth in the process of pushing his big lie.
nevermind, he's just diverting attention from the main topic and stiring as usual
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cloud747: nevermind, he's just diverting attention from the main topic and stiring as usual
Yeah I know. He's always stirring.
And once I heard him murmuring:
"Double, double toil and trouble;
Fire burn, and caldron bubble."
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RayfromUSA: Not me buddy. I've been an enemy of LaRouche for decades. Even back when he was pretending to be a Communist and his cult called itself the US Labor Party.
That was way back before his overnight morph into a supposed champion of free enterprize and neo-con values.
And he's flip-flopped several times since then. Always trying to present himself as the champion of whatever political breeze is prevailing at the moment.
It wouldn't surprise me if LaRouche himself were a CIA asset.
But, having said that. Like other cult leaders and politicians, sometimes LaRouche accidentally does use a little bit of truth in the process of pushing his big lie.
Not you,but your Source is!That was way back before his overnight morph into a supposed champion of free enterprize and neo-con values.
And he's flip-flopped several times since then. Always trying to present himself as the champion of whatever political breeze is prevailing at the moment.
It wouldn't surprise me if LaRouche himself were a CIA asset.
But, having said that. Like other cult leaders and politicians, sometimes LaRouche accidentally does use a little bit of truth in the process of pushing his big lie.
Seeing CIA again?
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cloud747: nevermind, he's just diverting attention from the main topic and stiring as usual
actually you can go to Heck with the A-Train!
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Conrad73: Seeing CIA again?
Not too much recently.
Been kinda quiet at the safehouse across the street.
Blinds drawn, muffled screams,...the usual.
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Conrad73: actually you can go to Heck with the A-Train!
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cloud747: you'll get better, don't worry
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E.g- in Afghan few days back many houses was set ablaze while protesting for the burned Koran, how are we sure there no Koran inside those burned houses?
I doubt they cared. Many just look for a reason to whip the useful idiots into a tither.