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Sep 28, 2012 10:41 AM CST Fighting hunger
Interesting article about fighting hunger. It isn't just the homeless who are hungry, but poor families in general. If kids go to school hungry, they focus more on their empty tummies than they do on thier education.

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Sep 28, 2012 11:33 AM CST Fighting hunger
Frankinstien
FrankinstienFrankinstienSan Juan, Puerto Rico1 Threads 1,521 Posts
HuggerMan4U: Interesting article about fighting hunger. It isn't just the homeless who are hungry, but poor families in general. If kids go to school hungry, they focus more on their empty tummies than they do on thier education.



So be shure to vote Republican so all your hard earned tax dollars will not go to such entitlements as subsidised school lunches .
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Sep 28, 2012 11:39 AM CST Fighting hunger
Rumple4skin
Rumple4skinRumple4skinStoke-on-Trent, Staffordshire, England UK4 Threads 1 Polls 980 Posts
HuggerMan4U: Interesting article about fighting hunger. It isn't just the homeless who are hungry, but poor families in general. If kids go to school hungry, they focus more on their empty tummies than they do on thier education.



Why don't we just make the supermarkets give food they can not sell(yet is fit for consumption)to the impoverished?

Why don't we? Because of namby-pamby regulation and the fear of being sued by jobsworth lawyers.

Why should we? Because it'd feed starving kids with food that actually costs money to throw away.
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Sep 28, 2012 11:53 AM CST Fighting hunger
sakamaksaka
sakamaksakasakamaksakanew york, New York USA17 Posts
facts check

rich people give much less to charity than poor people





Red states receive more well fare than blue states




U.S. Child Poverty Second Highest Among Developed Nations

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Sep 28, 2012 12:01 PM CST Fighting hunger
Rumple4skin
Rumple4skinRumple4skinStoke-on-Trent, Staffordshire, England UK4 Threads 1 Polls 980 Posts
Frankinstien: So be shure to vote Republican so all your hard earned tax dollars will not go to such entitlements as subsidised school lunches .


Why should we subsidise food consumption & production when we waste so much food? There is more than enough food in society to feed everybody if we were to practice self-discipline and curtail our own excesses and waste.

Why must we insist that the government does the decent thing because the citizen will not?
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Sep 28, 2012 12:05 PM CST Fighting hunger
Frankinstien
FrankinstienFrankinstienSan Juan, Puerto Rico1 Threads 1,521 Posts
Rumple4skin: Why should we subsidise food consumption & production when we waste so much food? There is more than enough food in society to feed everybody if we were to practice self-discipline and curtail our own excesses and waste.

Why must we insist that the government does the decent thing because the citizen will not?


If this bothers you then you know who to vote for .
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Sep 28, 2012 12:06 PM CST Fighting hunger
venusenvy
venusenvyvenusenvyCalgary, Alberta Canada27 Threads 20,003 Posts
Rumple4skin: Why don't we just make the supermarkets give food they can not sell(yet is fit for consumption)to the impoverished?

Why don't we? Because of namby-pamby regulation and the fear of being sued by jobsworth lawyers.

Why should we? Because it'd feed starving kids with food that actually costs money to throw away.



Actually there are several programs I know of that do exactly that Rumpy. Ive worked with many food banks over the years and they do receive a lot from supermarkets, commercial bakeries, industrial farms etc... peace
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Sep 28, 2012 12:13 PM CST Fighting hunger
montemonte
montemontemontemonteunknown, New Jersey USA114 Threads 4 Polls 5,631 Posts
Rumple4skin: Why don't we just make the supermarkets give food they can not sell(yet is fit for consumption)to the impoverished?

Why don't we? Because of namby-pamby regulation and the fear of being sued by jobsworth lawyers.

Why should we? Because it'd feed starving kids with food that actually costs money to throw away.



The reason supermarkets throw food away is because of the expiration date, therefore, it's not fit for consumption. How can you give it to someone if the date has expired. I throw yogurt, milk, anything dairy out if the expiration date has expired. Years ago I think restaurants used to give good away but the world is revolved around lawsuits so I think that stopped.
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Sep 28, 2012 12:20 PM CST Fighting hunger
Frankinstien
FrankinstienFrankinstienSan Juan, Puerto Rico1 Threads 1,521 Posts
montemonte: The reason supermarkets throw food away is because of the expiration date, therefore, it's not fit for consumption. How can you give it to someone if the date has expired. I throw yogurt, milk, anything dairy out if the expiration date has expired. Years ago I think restaurants used to give good away but the world is revolved around lawsuits so I think that stopped.


Monte, Expiration dates does not always mean that the food is bad . All the date signifies is the expiration date you can sell it by .

If you want to be on the safe side then that is your perogative but is isn't a hard and fast rule .
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Sep 28, 2012 12:21 PM CST Fighting hunger
Rumple4skin
Rumple4skinRumple4skinStoke-on-Trent, Staffordshire, England UK4 Threads 1 Polls 980 Posts
Frankinstien: If this bothers you then you know who to vote for .


I'm asking you how you justify a society throwing away this much food and then cursing the Republicans for not supporting school meals? Can you not see the intrinsic hypocrisy in this? It seems that altruistic speech is ten-a-penny in our societies, yet altruistic acts fall way short.

The reason I have a problem with government spending - at both its best & worst - is that I know what is spent is going to be billed to children and the yet to be born, you're not picking up the tab for what's spent and neither are the rich. So as well-meaning as your alrtuism may be it is a complete lie in reality, nothing more than a conscience appeaser for people who like to pretend that they care.
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Sep 28, 2012 12:37 PM CST Fighting hunger
HuggerMan4U: Interesting article about fighting hunger. It isn't just the homeless who are hungry, but poor families in general. If kids go to school hungry, they focus more on their empty tummies than they do on thier education.

actually it is a physical Fact that one is less mentally alert and more accident-prone when hungry,since the body is lacking the essential nutrients!
And for Foodstores and Supermarkets to distribute Food which they can't sell for some reason,but which has not expired would go a long way to alleviate some Hunger!
Not all the Hunger is in developing Countries!
Much of it is right at home!
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Sep 28, 2012 12:39 PM CST Fighting hunger
Rumple4skin
Rumple4skinRumple4skinStoke-on-Trent, Staffordshire, England UK4 Threads 1 Polls 980 Posts
montemonte: The reason supermarkets throw food away is because of the expiration date, therefore, it's not fit for consumption. How can you give it to someone if the date has expired. I throw yogurt, milk, anything dairy out if the expiration date has expired. Years ago I think restaurants used to give good away but the world is revolved around lawsuits so I think that stopped.


No, all kinds of food are thrown out for none other than aesthetic purposes. Slight damage to the packaging, incorrect printing on the packaging, an out-of-shape carrot, overly tight bottle lids.. all these "reasons" have lead to whole batches of food being thrown out because people would turn their nose up to them if they saw them on the supermarket shelf or because of silly laws.

Also, in the UK we have sell-by dates after which the food is not sold but it is still fit for consumption.

Shame about the restaurants, another score to the parasitic lawyer.. it's almost like they make these laws up themselves - oh hold on a minute, they do!
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Sep 28, 2012 12:40 PM CST Fighting hunger
Frankinstien
FrankinstienFrankinstienSan Juan, Puerto Rico1 Threads 1,521 Posts
Rumple4skin: I'm asking you how you justify a society throwing away this much food and then cursing the Republicans for not supporting school meals? Can you not see the intrinsic hypocrisy in this? It seems that altruistic speech is ten-a-penny in our societies, yet altruistic acts fall way short.

The reason I have a problem with government spending - at both its best & worst - is that I know what is spent is going to be billed to children and the yet to be born, you're not picking up the tab for what's spent and neither are the rich. So as well-meaning as your alrtuism may be it is a complete lie in reality, nothing more than a conscience appeaser for people who like to pretend that they care.


You obviously have never heard of the IRS . While we are here please only speak for yourself when you say others only pretend to care .
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Sep 28, 2012 1:01 PM CST Fighting hunger
Rumple4skin
Rumple4skinRumple4skinStoke-on-Trent, Staffordshire, England UK4 Threads 1 Polls 980 Posts
venusenvy: Actually there are several programs I know of that do exactly that Rumpy. Ive worked with many food banks over the years and they do receive a lot from supermarkets, commercial bakeries, industrial farms etc...


Over here we have the supermarkets asking the consumer to donate their purchased food to a food bank. Which is a very different thing.

My friends directs a recycling company, and i've seen at his firm just how much edible food goes to landfill or incineration. I remember reading somewhere that the quantity of food turned over in this country each year could healthily feed nearly double the population.
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Sep 28, 2012 1:06 PM CST Fighting hunger
Rumple4skin
Rumple4skinRumple4skinStoke-on-Trent, Staffordshire, England UK4 Threads 1 Polls 980 Posts
Frankinstien: You obviously have never heard of the IRS . While we are here please only speak for yourself when you say others only pretend to care .


You obviously never heard of the national debt? You know, that great big knife that older people that have stuck in the back of young people everywhere.

I'm sorry, I was only really referring to the cynical amongst the modern Lefties, there are, indeed, as you quite perfectly illustrate, a vast number of well-meaning idiots amongst them.
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Sep 28, 2012 1:15 PM CST Fighting hunger
Frankinstien
FrankinstienFrankinstienSan Juan, Puerto Rico1 Threads 1,521 Posts
Rumple4skin: You obviously never heard of the national debt? You know, that great big knife that older people that have stuck in the back of young people everywhere.

I'm sorry, I was only really referring to the cynical amongst the modern Lefties, there are, indeed, as you quite perfectly illustrate, a vast number of well-meaning idiots amongst them.


Well we idiots do mean well we aslo sometimes do well, or as much as we can . I suspect that we must be idiots because we feel that having too much is immproper in litght of all those who have little or nothing . We also are compleate idiouts for actually beliving all the " nonsence " about careing for our fellow man . Too bad we cant be " smart " like those that have no concience .
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Sep 28, 2012 2:12 PM CST Fighting hunger
Rumple4skin
Rumple4skinRumple4skinStoke-on-Trent, Staffordshire, England UK4 Threads 1 Polls 980 Posts
Frankinstien: Well we idiots do mean well we aslo sometimes do well, or as much as we can . I suspect that we must be idiots because we feel that having too much is immproper in litght of all those who have little or nothing . We also are compleate idiouts for actually beliving all the " nonsence " about careing for our fellow man . Too bad we cant be " smart " like those that have no concience .


Caring doesn't have to be someones else's job, nor do all problems we face have to be palmed off into a partisan/political debate. It would make good sense to cut down our waste of food and give that food to the needy.

Here in England the most help for the homeless & hungry are the church - especially the Catholics - and the charities. They often end up on the streets after the state bureaucracy has failed them in some way. You know, if the bureaucracy could run the country as efficiently as they can lose paperwork then we could all live like Kings.
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Sep 28, 2012 2:41 PM CST Fighting hunger
montemonte: The reason supermarkets throw food away is because of the expiration date, therefore, it's not fit for consumption. How can you give it to someone if the date has expired. I throw yogurt, milk, anything dairy out if the expiration date has expired. Years ago I think restaurants used to give good away but the world is revolved around lawsuits so I think that stopped.

rolling on the floor laughing Throwing yogurt away because the date has expired is absurd because yogurt is already bad when you buy it. Do you know what yogurt is? It's basically milk that went bad!rolling on the floor laughing
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Sep 28, 2012 3:06 PM CST Fighting hunger
ooby_dooby: Throwing yogurt away because the date has expired is absurd because yogurt is already bad when you buy it. Do you know what yogurt is? It's basically milk that went bad!
Like the date on Sour Cream,"Good Until"!laugh
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Sep 28, 2012 3:22 PM CST Fighting hunger
montemonte
montemontemontemonteunknown, New Jersey USA114 Threads 4 Polls 5,631 Posts
ooby_dooby: Throwing yogurt away because the date has expired is absurd because yogurt is already bad when you buy it. Do you know what yogurt is? It's basically milk that went bad!


No, it's not "bad".

Nowhere in this article does it say that the milk was bad when the yogurt was shipped to the store


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