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scriobhneoirCork, Ireland85 Threads 2 Polls 3,276 PostsI have no problem debating the 40 hour week with you (it's 39 actually but then again why let facts get in the way of your argument, you haven't thus far.), I already did but you chose to dismiss my opinion as it wasn't what you wanted to hear.
scriobhneoir: Not at all actually. The discrepancy between a multi-millionaire ceo and someone they employ for minimum wage is obviously going to be greater than between a head of a government department and a modestly though still okay paid clerical officer, so of course the private sector average will be hugely skewed.
Oh my goodness.
That why an average is a good indicator. What you are saying just doesn't make sense. I am thinking math wasn't really your thing at school. 
sofarsogood74: Oh my goodness. That why an average is a good indicator. What you are saying just doesn't make sense. I am thinking math wasn't really your thing at school.
incidently i am not enraged at all
after all you where the 1 who gets personnel with name calling etc
i dont take these things personally
i am only trying to keep you busy when you sitting at desk for 3 hours a day doing nothing
You obviously have never heard of the concept of job satisfaction sofar. Is it possible that you are as bad at psychology as you are at Maths?
Try to find a public servant who likes their job, you'll be hard pushed. Public Service work pays the bills, only just at that. Funny that capitalists like you are so against the concept of a fair wage for ordinary workers, that you would rather everyone suffered just because you have the risk that you might get sacked in the morning and we don't. Pathetic really.
Try to find a public servant who likes their job, you'll be hard pushed. Public Service work pays the bills, only just at that. Funny that capitalists like you are so against the concept of a fair wage for ordinary workers, that you would rather everyone suffered just because you have the risk that you might get sacked in the morning and we don't. Pathetic really.
WadeWilson: incidently i am not enraged at all
after all you where the 1 who gets personnel with name calling etc
i dont take these things personally
i am only trying to keep you busy when you sitting at desk for 3 hours a day doing nothing
after all you where the 1 who gets personnel with name calling etc
i dont take these things personally
i am only trying to keep you busy when you sitting at desk for 3 hours a day doing nothing
My employers are very happy for me to take 3 hours worth of breaks in a 12-16 hour day. Very happy indeed.
scriobhneoir: You obviously have never heard of the concept of job satisfaction sofar. Is it possible that you are as bad at psychology as you are at Maths?.
Me bad at maths?? You are the one that cant see hugh earning CEO's in the private sector would drive the private sectors AVERAGE earning UPWARDS! An average is not the difference between you know....Its adding up everyones salary and dividing it by the amount of people...High earners would only drive the AVERAGE up.
scriobhneoir: Try to find a public servant who likes their job, you'll be hard pushed. Public Service work pays the bills, only just at that. Funny that capitalists like you are so against the concept of a fair wage for ordinary workers, that you would rather everyone suffered just because you have the risk that you might get sacked in the morning and we don't. Pathetic really.
Capitalist me??? You have not got a clue. I am a big believer in a fair days WORK for a fair days pay. But we are not getting a fair days work from the public service. And if you dont like your job then leave...There are 450,000 people queing up to take your place and would be happy to work a 40 hour week.
sofarsogood74: My employers are very happy for me to take 3 hours worth of breaks in a 12-16 hour day. Very happy indeed.
spending 20 -25% of your day dossing not very productive
WadeWilson: spending 20 -25% of your day dossing not very productive
Working 55 hours a week is very productive? How many hours break would a public servant take in a 12-16 hour day do you reckon?
I am hugly productive.
i see
but i am not? as i am a civil servant?
by you logic i could do a 40 hour week but be busy for 35 & its ok as i in work
but i am not? as i am a civil servant?
by you logic i could do a 40 hour week but be busy for 35 & its ok as i in work
WadeWilson: i see
but i am not? as i am a civil servant?
by you logic i could do a 40 hour week but be busy for 35 & its ok as i in work
but i am not? as i am a civil servant?
by you logic i could do a 40 hour week but be busy for 35 & its ok as i in work
No. By my logic EVERYONE should WORK at least 40 HOURS a week. Is that so hard for you to understand? Its quite simple.
40 Hours work. Thats 40 hours productive work per working person at least. Not 40 hours in the building, not 40 hours logged on....40 hours doing actaul work....after that it's up to the individual. But NOBODY should do less if they work Full time.
I really can't explain it any simplier for you.
and as it your logic
its always correct
everyone has to work 40 hours a week
but you can come in for longer & do nothing
call yourself productive & get the boss to think your great
as you give the appearance of being busy or doing long work hours
your job sounds fun, if only greed was not my motivating factor in life
its always correct
everyone has to work 40 hours a week
but you can come in for longer & do nothing
call yourself productive & get the boss to think your great
as you give the appearance of being busy or doing long work hours
your job sounds fun, if only greed was not my motivating factor in life
WadeWilson: and as it your logic
its always correct
everyone has to work 40 hours a week
but you can come in for longer & do nothing
call yourself productive & get the boss to think your great
as you give the appearance of being busy or doing long work hours
your job sounds fun, if only greed was not my motivating factor in life
its always correct
everyone has to work 40 hours a week
but you can come in for longer & do nothing
call yourself productive & get the boss to think your great
as you give the appearance of being busy or doing long work hours
your job sounds fun, if only greed was not my motivating factor in life
My job is fun. I like it. But you would not do it as you cant seem to grasp the fact I may take 2-3 hours breaks in a day has nothing to do with how productive I am. I also work an average of 11 hours a day in a week. Its my 11 hours work that makes me very productive. But seems you cant grasp that simple concept I doubt you could be my admin person...never mind do my job.
And another simple thing to grasp would be that if everone in full time employment in Ireland done at least 40 hours work a week the productivity of the country would soar and we would get out of the mess we are in quicker. Thats very basic business knowledge. I fear for our public sector if an "expert" in their field like you cant grasp those two simple things.
Anyway. Another tea break done. Back to the grindstone. You two boys at home?
i see so if i work a productive 7 hours a day with no breaks
i have done nothing worth while
but if i do 10 hours with a 3 hours break its a ok.
throw in some personnel remark & a few half truths or lies
blame the private sector for state of country
ignore what was asked to me
and you get a reply
gosh it appears i am acting like you
maybe the public sector can learn things from private sector
i look forward to the next reply
with baited breath
i have done nothing worth while
but if i do 10 hours with a 3 hours break its a ok.
throw in some personnel remark & a few half truths or lies
blame the private sector for state of country
ignore what was asked to me
and you get a reply
gosh it appears i am acting like you
maybe the public sector can learn things from private sector
i look forward to the next reply
with baited breath
WadeWilson: i see so if i work a productive 7 hours a day with no breaks
i have done nothing worth while
but if i do 10 hours with a 3 hours break its a ok.
throw in some personnel remark & a few half truths or lies
blame the private sector for state of country
ignore what was asked to me
and you get a reply
gosh it appears i am acting like you
maybe the public sector can learn things from private sector
i look forward to the next reply
with baited breath
i have done nothing worth while
but if i do 10 hours with a 3 hours break its a ok.
throw in some personnel remark & a few half truths or lies
blame the private sector for state of country
ignore what was asked to me
and you get a reply
gosh it appears i am acting like you
maybe the public sector can learn things from private sector
i look forward to the next reply
with baited breath
I have work to do so this will be my last reply for a while.
I never said working 7 hours a day was doing nothing worthwhile. You are making things up now. What I am saying is you would be more productive working 8 hours a day. You would get more done.
And obviously if you worked 10 hours a day you would be even more productive. It doesn't really matter how you break those 10 hours up. You can do 3...take a break...do another 3...take a break...do 2..take a break and then do another 2. YOU ARE STILL DOING 10 HOURS WORK! Which is more productive than 7 hours work. If you cant see that I give up!
Laters. Work to do.
another trick i have learned from you now
making things up
this is fun
its like a transfer of skills
before i know it i will be unsufferable too
plus if your finished your break like you said earlier
why are you logging back on
tut tut tut your a bold boy
making things up
this is fun
its like a transfer of skills
before i know it i will be unsufferable too
plus if your finished your break like you said earlier
why are you logging back on
tut tut tut your a bold boy
scriobhneoir: Not at all actually. The discrepancy between a multi-millionaire ceo and someone they employ for minimum wage is obviously going to be greater than between a head of a government department and a modestly though still okay paid clerical officer, so of course the private sector average will be hugely skewed.
You seem to be onto something with the averages alright. Of course the averages will be skewed when you have large outliers. In this case however, the results would lead to a higher skewed average on the private sector side. Let me show you how.
Private sector: CEO- one million euro salary. Minimum wage employee- 18000 euro a year. Average 509,000 per year.
Public sector: Top official- 250000 per year. Lowest paid 20000 per year. Average 135000 per year.
So the fact that averages can be skewed by outliers is right, this means that because of the bigger outliers in the private sector, the average of 17 euro per hour is likely to be hugely skewed and in fact the median will be somewhere much lower than this. In the public sector, the average will still possibly be skewed but not by much. The median value per hour will be alot closer to the average value.
So you argument on skewed averages works against you if you think about it!
WadeWilson: another trick i have learned from you now
making things up
this is fun
its like a transfer of skills
before i know it i will be unsufferable too
plus if your finished your break like you said earlier
why are you logging back on
tut tut tut your a bold boy
making things up
this is fun
its like a transfer of skills
before i know it i will be unsufferable too
plus if your finished your break like you said earlier
why are you logging back on
tut tut tut your a bold boy
When you speak the truth with facts there is no need to make things up. This is why you have probably started saying I have said things I have not.I am so sorry you think me unsufferable as I think you should have to work a whole 40 hours a week for your money.
And I am glad you finally grasped the whole working 11 hours is more productive than working 7 hours thing. It must have been hard for you. But if you work 7 hours a day then 1 hour is apprx 14% of your working time. If you worked an extra hour that would make you 14% more productive. Over the 300,000 public service employees this would be a huge help to the country and its productivity.
But as I have said so many times. The fact you and Scrib have fought tooth and nail and are so horrified at being made work a 40 hour week tells us all we need to know about the public service. Would not work in a fit!
Now I am off to the gym and then home.
oh no you have found me out
sofarsogood74: Working 55 hours a week is very productive? How many hours break would a public servant take in a 12-16 hour day do you reckon?
I am hugly productive.
I am hugly productive.
Just as well you're working in Finance and not journalism. Given the epic contribution our little aspiring CEO has made to his capitalist overlords, do you not think they could stretch to paying for lessons for you, so you could learn to speak and write English to a satisfactory level?
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