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sofarsogood74: Most of the allowance have not been scrapped Scrib. The government planned on scrapping most of them but backed down the the unions a few months back. The vast majority are still in place. Geting an allowance for wearing shoes to work or eating your lunch in instead of out! Come on!
I work in a local authority, we can't get overtime anymore, we can't get acting anymore, no other allowances are payable to administrative grades in the public service so in effect yes, they have been scrapped. I can't comment on outdoor staff allowances, they do get them, but they have been scaled back an awful lot.
scriobhneoir: I work 35 hours a week not 32, for the last time I'd quite willingly show up for 39 hours a week if they want me to, just teling you that it would not mean I'd have any more work to do. Oh and I still maintain if you turned off the internet connection you could get out of the office earlier and wouldn't have to play the martyr looking for a pat on the back because you work such long hours..
I am not a martyr. I love my job. Never said anything else. So again you got that one wrong. As usual.
scriobhneoir: As a practicing counsellor I will probably be working between 48-60 hours by the time I'm finished case work etc. I look forward to the day I get to do it because the job satisfaction will make it worth every minute. I'll also probably be earning considerably more than you but unlike you I won't be going online telling you that you are a fat lazy drunk who is screwing the country.
Doubt that Scrib. If you're not qualified enough to prescribe pills then you certainly won't be out earning me I'm afraid.
scriobhneoir: I work in a local authority, we can't get overtime anymore, we can't get acting anymore, no other allowances are payable to administrative grades in the public service so in effect yes, they have been scrapped. I can't comment on outdoor staff allowances, they do get them, but they have been scaled back an awful lot.
Scaled back...Here are just a few!
AGRICULTURE
Agriculture
Specified Pathogen Free Unit and additional laboratory related duties allowance (Head Laboratory Attendant, Laboratory Allowance)
Shredding allowance (Laboratory Attendants) - €19.85 per week
Storekeeper allowance – pre Jan ’11 €12.60 per week
Commuted travel allowance
Blood Storage equipment allowance
Cross compliance allowance
Milk Agency
Milk Agency – Receptionist
The Department of Agriculture said it could not furnish the monetary value of most of the above allowances because the officials dealing with the matter were unavailable today.
Teagasc
Gaeltacht allowance – €7,263
Accommodation allowance - €1,081
Chef’s allowance - €1,661
ARTS, HERITAGE & GAELTACHT
Irish Museum of Modern Art
Supervisor Higher Duty (Public Affairs Office) - €4,367.20
Supervisor Higher Duty – Six staff members receive this allowance as follows: One receives €1,122; one receives €5,616; and an allowance of approximately €7,000 is paid between four members of staff.
CSO
Passenger card inquiry allowance - €12.62 per week
Bus allowance - €4.40 per day
Travel allowance - €3.15 per journey
CHIEF STATE SOLICITOR'S OFFICE
Assistant Chief State Solicitor - €5,617.16 per annum
DEFENCE
Election gratuity allowance - €201.70
Search and rescue allowance - €85.57 - €89.83 daily rate
Civilian clothing allowance - €1.33 daily rate
Entertainment allowance – Paid to officers for out of pocket expenses incurred overseas
Principal military appointments entertainment allowance – Paid to senior officers entertaining dignitaries and guests
Ration allowance cadets – Allowance in lieu of rations
Underwear and night attire for female personnel - €27.40 per annum
Chaplain’s housekeeper allowance - €1,868 per annum with an extra €842 where an assistant is also required
Travel warrants
Border duty - €96.23 to €111.97 per week
EDUCATION
Education supplemental
Uniform allowance – Caretaker: €483.30; Cleaner: €120
Shoe allowance - €80.50
Clothing allowance - €414 (average)
Clothing and footwear allowance – €806
Stock taking allowance - €868
Telephone allowance - €285
July provision scheme preparatory - €1,401
Fetac
Project office allowance - €4,029
Council minute secretary – no longer paid
Postprimary
Allowance for Principals who act as Secretary to Board of Management - €532 - €1,572 per annum
VECs
Allowance in respect of duties as transport liaison officer – no longer paid
Allowance in respect of duties as Secretary to the Board of Management of an IOT - €3,562
LOCAL GOVERNMENT
A dual allowance is “paid for the carrying out of the duties of two posts/additional duties over and above those comprehended by the substantive post”, the Department said.
sofarsogood74: But I explained to you how in a lot of areas in the public sector working a full week would be beneficial to not only the public and waiting lists but the economy i general.
Public offices being opened longer would be a good idea, I agree. I don't see how waiting lists would be affected in hospitals though. It is not Mary or Jane behind the desk that sees patients, it is the doctors, admin staff working longer hours would not change doctors workloads. Anyone who provides a service expects to be paid for it, be it in the private sector or public sector. If you think any worker would willingly accept a change in working arrangements without some compensation, you are not being realistic. About Blank said that himself, but you chose to ignore that part of his post as it didn't suit you.
scriobhneoir: Public offices being opened longer would be a good idea, I agree. I don't see how waiting lists would be affected in hospitals though. It is not Mary or Jane behind the desk that sees patients, it is the doctors, admin staff working longer hours would not change doctors workloads. Anyone who provides a service expects to be paid for it, be it in the private sector or public sector. If you think any worker would willingly accept a change in working arrangements without some compensation, you are not being realistic. About Blank said that himself, but you chose to ignore that part of his post as it didn't suit you.
You are in a marxist union bubble Scrib. People in the private sector accept change every day without wanting more money. Change is progress. Progress is good. New ways of working are good. New equipment is good. Everything that makes the work place more productive is good. And why should employees be given extra money to embrace change.
sofarsogood74: I am not a martyr. I love my job. Never said anything else. So again you got that one wrong. As usual.
Doubt that Scrib. If you're not qualified enough to prescribe pills then you certainly won't be out earning me I'm afraid.
Doubt that Scrib. If you're not qualified enough to prescribe pills then you certainly won't be out earning me I'm afraid.
I don't know what you earn so can't comment. I've been checking out counselling/psychotherapy jobs in the UK, most pay about 30,000 sterling for agency work but very few counsellors or psychotherapists work solely for agencies, the majority also operate a private practice which gives them further income.
What do you earn incidentally?
Is it not refreshing to be having a civilised debate for a change rather than telling me I'm fat (which I am clearly not) and an alcoholic (which I certainly am not.)
sofarsogood74: Your the one who started the very persoanl insults Scrib. If you cant take it dont give it. .
No I'm not, I can highlight the post where you first told me I was what was wrong with the public service. I also have apologise for over-reacting and getting personal, something you refuse to do.
scriobhneoir: I don't know what you earn so can't comment. I've been checking out counselling/psychotherapy jobs in the UK, most pay about 30,000 sterling for agency work but very few counsellors or psychotherapists work solely for agencies, the majority also operate a private practice which gives them further income.
What do you earn incidentally?
Is it not refreshing to be having a civilised debate for a change rather than telling me I'm fat (which I am clearly not) and an alcoholic (which I certainly am not.)
What do you earn incidentally?
Is it not refreshing to be having a civilised debate for a change rather than telling me I'm fat (which I am clearly not) and an alcoholic (which I certainly am not.)
I am not broadcasting my earning on CS. I earn a very nice wage which gives me lots of choices in life I otherwise would not have. Put it this way if Labour had have got their way in the last budget I would be paying more tax. And I can afforrd to pay more tax as I have said countless times on here and I should be paying more tax.
scriobhneoir: No I'm not, I can highlight the post where you first told me I was what was wrong with the public service. I also have apologise for over-reacting and getting personal, something you refuse to do.
I dont apologise Scrib because I dont mind you insulting me. It's water off a ducks back. Its a stranger on a dating site giving an opinion on me so it does not effect me one bit. It should be the same with you.
Anyway. I am off. Better things to be doing on a Friday night.
Laters.
Laters.
sofarsogood74: Anyway. I am off. Better things to be doing on a Friday night.
Laters.
Laters.
Me too. Grub. Union meeting. Pub. Socialising with people whose opinions I actually do value and respect. i hope you had a fulfilling day in your imaginary over 100 grand a year job which you are surprisingly reluctant to give any details of. Give my regards to missus walter Mitty.
scriobhneoir: Me too. Grub. Union meeting. Pub. Socialising with people whose opinions I actually do value and respect. i hope you had a fulfilling day in your imaginary over 100 grand a year job which you are surprisingly reluctant to give any details of. Give my regards to missus walter Mitty.
Jealousy doesn't suit you Scrib.
Take it easy on the garge now wont ya. 
Is union metting what they are calling WW nowadays.Have a wonderfull weekend. Dont work too hard.
sofarsogood74: I am not a martyr. I love my job. Never said anything else. So again you got that one wrong. As usual.
Doubt that Scrib. If you're not qualified enough to prescribe pills then you certainly won't be out earning me I'm afraid.
Doubt that Scrib. If you're not qualified enough to prescribe pills then you certainly won't be out earning me I'm afraid.
Difference is my dim witted friend, I'll be helping people make a better life for themselves rather than working to make a profit for come corrupt business man who will probably make you redundant next year or the year after. I hope it doesn't happen to you and I won't be on here gloating if it does unlike you I have a bit of class and integrity.
Any form of industrial action by public sector workers should be outlawed, it should be illegal for ps workers to go on strike and the government should have the right to de certify any public sector trade union that engages in any form of industrial action that is an inconvenience to the general public. Public sector trade union leaders should also be interned if ps workers go on strike, it makes logical sense to ban anyone who works in essential services to be forbidden from taking any form of industrial action.
scribh , sofar , lads honestly you's are both lookin' silly at this stage , it's dragging out a bit now , the both of you's are better than that lads honestly 
Tarzansnuts: scribh , sofar , lads honestly you's are both lookin' silly at this stage , it's dragging out a bit now , the both of you's are better than that lads honestly
Yeah Tarzans you're right, I let him wind me up too much. Sorry.
scriobhneoir: Yeah Tarzans you're right, I let him wind me up too much. Sorry.
I know how you must feel. Asking you to do a full weeks work (40 hours) for your money. Explaining how this would be fantastic for the economy and members of the public. Explaining how strikes really effect every day people and the economy. Providing a list of allowances when you said they had been stamped out. Pointing out how CSO figures show the public service take nearly twice as many sick days as the private sector. Pointing out how the public service has always been paid more than the private sector and expecting the higher paid public servants to do a job equal in quality to the private sector.
I am such a wind up. Imagine someone winding you up like that.
sofarsogood74: I know how you must feel. Asking you to do a full weeks work (40 hours) for your money. Explaining how this would be fantastic for the economy and members of the public. Explaining how strikes really effect every day people and the economy. Providing a list of allowances when you said they had been stamped out. Pointing out how CSO figures show the public service take nearly twice as many sick days as the private sector. Pointing out how the public service has always been paid more than the private sector and expecting the higher paid public servants to do a job equal in quality to the private sector.
I am such a wind up. Imagine someone winding you up like that.
I am such a wind up. Imagine someone winding you up like that.
Whatever you say Keeneland. Looking forward to seeing what you'll call your next profile.
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How would you like it if I suggested all people working in financial services were gangsters out for a quick buck?.
I would have no problem with that and being a realist I would say you are probably right on that one but the majority are not all.
Persoanlly I dont care either way Scrib. And this all started from me saying I thought public servants should do a 40 hours week. I said getting allowances for things like wearing shoes to work, working in a yard, eating lunch in rather than go out to name a few was wrong. I also said people over 50k should take pay cuts starting at 2% up to 10% at the top.
These I think are very reasonable things to want from the public service but it was you and Wade took huge offence to it. Especailly the 40 hour week. I thought thus unbelieveable as its only what the majority of us in the private sector do as a minimum every week. Hence the lazy and no work ethic comments.