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Jan 19, 2013 11:50 AM CST He Carried An AR-15 And Handgun When He Went To The J.C. Penney Store
montemonte
montemontemontemonteunknown, New Jersey USA114 Threads 4 Polls 5,631 Posts
The state of Utah has an open gun carry law so technically he wasn't doing anything wrong but how smart was it to do that in a store.

My personal opinion is that it's INSANE to carry a gun like this into a store where there are children.

When you look at the video, imagine standing next to him when you pay for your purchase.

He wanted to prove that law abiding citizens are not a threat when they carry a gun.

Did he go to the extreme to prove a point?


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Jan 19, 2013 11:54 AM CST He Carried An AR-15 And Handgun When He Went To The J.C. Penney Store
montemonte: The state of Utah has an open gun carry law so technically he wasn't doing anything wrong but how smart was it to do that in a store.

My personal opinion is that it's INSANE to carry a gun like this into a store where there are children.

When you look at the video, imagine standing next to him when you pay for your purchase.

He wanted to prove that law abiding citizens are not a threat when they carry a gun.

Did he go to the extreme to prove a point?http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/18/joseph-kelley-gun-rifle-jc-penney-guns-safe-law-abiding-citizens_n_2504142.html


Yes and no. but tell you what, if someone was planning a shooting, probably said, wtf a criminal isn't safe anymore!!!
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Jan 19, 2013 11:56 AM CST He Carried An AR-15 And Handgun When He Went To The J.C. Penney Store
This picture was taken at a JcPenney by me, here in Riverdale, Utah! He is NOT breaking any Utah State laws. You DO NOT have to be a CCP holder in order to open carry in Utah as long as it is 2 actions away from firing. If you ARE a CCP holder in Utah, your firearm can be loaded. Obviously he is exercising his 2nd amendment right! People are torn about this picture and wondering if he is going overboard. I think he is proving a damn good point!

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Jan 19, 2013 11:59 AM CST He Carried An AR-15 And Handgun When He Went To The J.C. Penney Store
montemonte
montemontemontemonteunknown, New Jersey USA114 Threads 4 Polls 5,631 Posts
Conrad73: This picture was taken at a JcPenney by me, here in Riverdale, Utah! He is NOT breaking any Utah State laws. You DO NOT have to be a CCP holder in order to open carry in Utah as long as it is 2 actions away from firing. If you ARE a CCP holder in Utah, your firearm can be loaded. Obviously he is exercising his 2nd amendment right! People are torn about this picture and wondering if he is going overboard. I think he is proving a damn good point!




It's the same picture in the link I posted.

Are you shouting at me Conrad?
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Jan 19, 2013 12:36 PM CST He Carried An AR-15 And Handgun When He Went To The J.C. Penney Store
venusenvy
venusenvyvenusenvyCalgary, Alberta Canada27 Threads 20,003 Posts
montemonte: The state of Utah has an open gun carry law so technically he wasn't doing anything wrong but how smart was it to do that in a store.

My personal opinion is that it's INSANE to carry a gun like this into a store where there are children.

When you look at the video, imagine standing next to him when you pay for your purchase.

He wanted to prove that law abiding citizens are not a threat when they carry a gun.

Did he go to the extreme to prove a point?http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/18/joseph-kelley-gun-rifle-jc-penney-guns-safe-law-abiding-citizens_n_2504142.html



So in the end, what point did he prove? dunno
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Jan 19, 2013 1:27 PM CST He Carried An AR-15 And Handgun When He Went To The J.C. Penney Store
montemonte: It's the same picture in the link I posted.

Are you shouting at me Conrad?
If I were,I'd used CAPITAL LETTERS!laugh
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Jan 19, 2013 1:45 PM CST He Carried An AR-15 And Handgun When He Went To The J.C. Penney Store
DaytonaDude
DaytonaDudeDaytonaDudeSouth Daytona, Florida USA33 Threads 3 Polls 2,403 Posts
rolling on the floor laughing Maybe people better get used to seeing this, the way the world is becoming.

Listen to Chucky speak on this

laugh

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Jan 19, 2013 2:01 PM CST He Carried An AR-15 And Handgun When He Went To The J.C. Penney Store
GUZMAN1
GUZMAN1GUZMAN1Barcelona, Catalonia Spain65 Threads 44 Polls 5,101 Posts
Since I do not know the rules of etiquette in USA, can anyone tell me in which places one has the right to bear arms and in which has not?

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Jan 19, 2013 2:11 PM CST He Carried An AR-15 And Handgun When He Went To The J.C. Penney Store
montemonte
montemontemontemonteunknown, New Jersey USA114 Threads 4 Polls 5,631 Posts
GUZMAN1: Since I do not know the rules of etiquette in USA, can anyone tell me in which places one has the right to bear arms and in which has not?




Here Guzzy...

The open carry states are listed

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Jan 19, 2013 2:29 PM CST He Carried An AR-15 And Handgun When He Went To The J.C. Penney Store
GUZMAN1
GUZMAN1GUZMAN1Barcelona, Catalonia Spain65 Threads 44 Polls 5,101 Posts


According with that list, in Utah...should this man have an special license to carry a gun there?
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Jan 19, 2013 2:34 PM CST He Carried An AR-15 And Handgun When He Went To The J.C. Penney Store
montemonte
montemontemontemonteunknown, New Jersey USA114 Threads 4 Polls 5,631 Posts
GUZMAN1: According with that list, in Utah...should this man have an special license to carry a gun there?



I would imagine he does have a license for both guns since he's openly carrying them in the public. And especially since he's trying to show that he's not a danger to anyone in the store.

People have pulled the same stunt boarding an airplane with a hidden gun to prove that they were able to get on the airplane and that security checks don't catch every gun.
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Jan 19, 2013 2:37 PM CST He Carried An AR-15 And Handgun When He Went To The J.C. Penney Store
GUZMAN1
GUZMAN1GUZMAN1Barcelona, Catalonia Spain65 Threads 44 Polls 5,101 Posts
montemonte: I would imagine he does have a license for both guns since he's openly carrying them in the public. And especially since he's trying to show that he's not a danger to anyone in the store.

People have pulled the same stunt boarding an airplane with a hidden gun to prove that they were able to get on the airplane and that security checks don't catch every gun.


So, it's a kind of demonstration, something il.legal but not punishable?
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Jan 19, 2013 2:45 PM CST He Carried An AR-15 And Handgun When He Went To The J.C. Penney Store
montemonte
montemontemontemonteunknown, New Jersey USA114 Threads 4 Polls 5,631 Posts
GUZMAN1: So, it's a kind of demonstration, something il.legal but not punishable?



Yes it is a demonstration but not illegal since Utah is an open carry state.
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Jan 19, 2013 4:01 PM CST He Carried An AR-15 And Handgun When He Went To The J.C. Penney Store
.....he did prove a point......females tend to get hysterical about obvious good intentions....back off.....i am sure there are places in jersey where you would not dare to tread....unarmed......we have a right to protect ourselves.....his point is well-taken.......just how many illegal guns are on the streets of chicago....?......in the hands of ignorant cooties who shoot people for the hell of it.......protect yourself from these types, missy........
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Jan 19, 2013 4:21 PM CST He Carried An AR-15 And Handgun When He Went To The J.C. Penney Store
Witchaywoman
WitchaywomanWitchaywomanCarpentersville, Illinois USA97 Threads 13 Polls 4,344 Posts
If I had an AR assault rifle, and we could carry them, I would wear mine to Walmart with camouflage Pyjama pants and a 3 Wolf Moon Tee shirt. Owoooooo!
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Jan 19, 2013 4:27 PM CST He Carried An AR-15 And Handgun When He Went To The J.C. Penney Store
skippyguy
skippyguyskippyguyAshburton, Canterbury New Zealand26 Threads 3,825 Posts
hmmmmmm ....i don't think he proved anything, the gun could have easily gone off and injured someone, one can only presume its loaded, doesn't prove nothing cept there is a stupid open gun carry law
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Jan 19, 2013 4:35 PM CST He Carried An AR-15 And Handgun When He Went To The J.C. Penney Store
skippyguy: hmmmmmm ....i don't think he proved anything, the gun could have easily gone off and injured someone, one can only presume its loaded, doesn't prove nothing cept there is a stupid open gun carry law
lol.. proves you don't know jack about the laws in Utah. Read the article, btw not to sound too harsh, but whos side are you on, the criminal who kills or the victim AFTER the crime could have been stopped?
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Jan 19, 2013 4:36 PM CST He Carried An AR-15 And Handgun When He Went To The J.C. Penney Store
Witchaywoman: If I had an AR assault rifle, and we could carry them, I would wear mine to Walmart with camouflage Pyjama pants and a 3 Wolf Moon Tee shirt. Owoooooo!
and a camo thong too?? rolling on the floor laughing
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Jan 19, 2013 4:38 PM CST He Carried An AR-15 And Handgun When He Went To The J.C. Penney Store
montemonte
montemontemontemonteunknown, New Jersey USA114 Threads 4 Polls 5,631 Posts
woodstock1: .....he did prove a point......females tend to get hysterical about obvious good intentions....back off.....i am sure there are places in jersey where you would not dare to tread....unarmed......we have a right to protect ourselves.....his point is well-taken.......just how many illegal guns are on the streets of chicago....?......in the hands of ignorant cooties who shoot people for the hell of it.......protect yourself from these types, missy........



You are most definitely correct that there are towns in New Jersey that I wouldn't venture into during the daylight.

And I have no doubt that there are people in New Jersey that have a gun under their jacket BUT those are the criminals.

People in New Jersey don't have this need to carry a gun to protect themselves. It's just not the way we live.

Thing is, I didn't know until I read the article in this link that New Jersey is an open carry state (licensed required).

I have never seen anyone in New Jersey walking around with a gun on their hip unless it's a police officer.

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Jan 19, 2013 5:23 PM CST He Carried An AR-15 And Handgun When He Went To The J.C. Penney Store
Witchaywoman: If I had an AR assault rifle, and we could carry them, I would wear mine to Walmart with camouflage Pyjama pants and a 3 Wolf Moon Tee shirt. Owoooooo!
shock

witchay NO.....camo is soooo last year!cool
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