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Mar 2, 2013 6:33 PM CST Please explain
atir56
atir56atir56Jacksonville, Florida USA3 Threads 1 Polls 7 Posts
I was corresponding with this "wonderful" American. He weaved me in a web of romance, kindness, friendlines... All lies. He runs a very well defined scamm business out of Ghana. My question is this: do you, scammers think that romance will trump rational thinking? Not me baby... I'm educated both in school and life... I read and enjoy keeping up with the rest of the world. I understand the mechanics of deceit...I might admit that you were really good at your job but not good enough my dear...
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Mar 2, 2013 6:46 PM CST Please explain
jac379
jac379jac379pontyclun, South Glamorgan, Wales UK25 Threads 3 Polls 12,293 Posts
It won't be long before you've had so many of them, you'll be able to spot them without even opening the first mail.

Btw, if we discuss scammer techniques on the forums, they learn from the feedback and change tactics. Best to keep the details to private mail, eh?
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Mar 2, 2013 6:47 PM CST Please explain
joyaepace
joyaepacejoyaepaceGalway, Ireland11 Threads 2 Polls 958 Posts
Hey, don't take it personally, scammers are like flies buzzing around, just ignore. I posted this in one other poll too, it is useful to understand who they are. Here is a profile of one such scammer. Just a kid!

Online scams create "Yahoo! millionaires"

In Lagos, where scamming is an art, the quickest path to wealth for the cyber-generation runs through a computer screen.

FORTUNE Magazine

By Leonard Lawal, FORTUNE

June 1, 2006: 9:43 AM EDT

(FORTUNE Magazine) - Akin is, like many things in cyberspace, an alias. In real life he's 14. He wears Adidas sneakers, a Rolex Submariner watch, and a kilo of gold around his neck.

Akin, who lives in Lagos, is one of a new generation of entrepreneurs that has emerged in this city of 15 million, Nigeria's largest. His mother makes $30 a month as a cleaner, his father about the same hustling at bus stations. But Akin has made it big working long days at Internet cafes and is now the main provider for his family and legions of relatives.

Call him a "Yahoo! millionaire."

Akin buys things online - laptops, BlackBerries, cameras, flat-screen TVs - using stolen credit cards and aliases. He has the loot shipped via FedEx or DHL to safe houses in Europe, where it is received by friends, then shipped on to Lagos to be sold on the black market. (He figures Americans are too smart to sell a camera on eBay to a buyer with an address in Nigeria.)

Akin's main office is an Internet cafe in the Ikeja section of Lagos. He spends up to ten hours a day there, seven days a week, huddled over one of 50 computers, working his scams.

And he's not alone: The cafe is crowded most of the time with other teenagers, like Akin, working for a "chairman" who buys the computer time and hires them to extract e-mail addresses and credit card information from the thin air of cyberspace. Akin's chairman, who is computer illiterate, gets a 60 percent cut and reserves another 20 percent to pay off law enforcement officials who come around or teachers who complain when the boys cut school. That still puts plenty of cash in Akin's pocket.

A sign at the door of the cafe reads, WE DO NOT TOLERATE SCAMS IN THIS PLACE. DO NOT USE E-MAIL EXTRACTORS OR SEND MULTIPLE MAILS OR HACK CREDIT CARDS. YOU WILL BE HANDED OVER TO THE POLICE. NO 419 ACTIVITY IN THIS CAFE. The sign is a joke; 419 activity, which refers to the section of the Nigerian law dealing with obtaining things by trickery, is a national pastime. There are no coherent laws relating to e-scams, the police are mostly computer illiterate, and penalties for financial crimes are light.

No penalties for breaking the law

"The deterrent factor is not there at all," says Thomas Oli, a Lagos lawyer, citing the case of a former police inspector general who was convicted of stealing more than $100 million and got only six months in jail.

"What do you want me to do?" Akin asks in pidgin English, explaining why he turned to a life of Internet crime. "It is my God-given talent. Our politicians, they do their own; me, I'm doing my own. I feed my family - my sister, my mother, my popsie. Man must survive."

The scams perpetrated by Akin and his comrades are many and varied: moneygram interceptions, Western Union hijackings, check laundering, identity theft, and outright begging, with tall tales of dying relatives and large sums of money in search of safe haven. One popular online fraud often practiced by women (or boys pretending to be women) involves separating lonely men from their money.....

.....Or as Akin puts it, "White people are too gullible. They are rich, and whatever I gyp them out of is small change to them."

Editor's note: The term "Yahoo Millionaire" is frequently used by scammers in Nigeria. They are not affiliated in any way with Yahoo! the company.

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Mar 2, 2013 11:02 PM CST Please explain
Halv0
Halv0Halv0Marcoola, Queensland Australia19 Threads 766 Posts
atir56: I was corresponding with this "wonderful" American. He weaved me in a web of romance, kindness, friendlines... All lies. He runs a very well defined scamm business out of Ghana. My question is this: do you, scammers think that romance will trump rational thinking? Not me baby... I'm educated both in school and life... I read and enjoy keeping up with the rest of the world. I understand the mechanics of deceit...I might admit that you were really good at your job but not good enough my dear...


Ah, yes, this is the reality of "online dating". Me, I believe that the term is a scam in its own right. Nobody can really date online. People can only be introduced, get to know a little (and I stress a little) about someone (if it is real as you have found out).

But dating must and can only occur when two people actually spend real time together in the flesh. Anything else is a stretch of the imagination.

Dating by definition is hanging out, sharing time and experiences in joint activities and ultimately leading to a life together.

I personally could not marry someone through a computer screen. This would be like falling in love with a movie star in a movie. It is not real, and it is a form of delusion.

But this medium is great for becomming introduced to people that we would not normally meet.

My GF is a case in hand. I met here here on CS. But our relationship had to break out of cyberspace, else it could never really be called a relationship (my personal opinion).

Now we are talking about moving countries and putting in place the paperwork and applications needed to make this a reality.

Relationships may begin here, but they cannot stay here.
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Mar 3, 2013 10:29 AM CST Please explain
venusenvy
venusenvyvenusenvyCalgary, Alberta Canada27 Threads 20,003 Posts
Scamerramma ding dong darlin! Anyone with the slightest modicum of intelligence can spot them right away as you have done. Frankly, they make me laugh. wine
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Mar 3, 2013 10:30 AM CST Please explain
venusenvy
venusenvyvenusenvyCalgary, Alberta Canada27 Threads 20,003 Posts
O and set your preferences to screen out scammer areas, It will save you a lot of work as the Mods on this site are not exactly vigilant about it. wine
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Mar 3, 2013 12:11 PM CST Please explain
lifeisadream
lifeisadreamlifeisadreamMexi Go, Mexico State Mexico156 Threads 20 Polls 16,713 Posts
jac379: It won't be long before you've had so many of them, you'll be able to spot them without even opening the first mail.

Btw, if we discuss scammer techniques on the forums, they learn from the feedback and change tactics. Best to keep the details to private mail, eh?



Exactly!





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