It is a matter of choice. In Panama, as well as in many countries in Latinamerica, when a woman marries, the husband name is added to her name after the word "de" which means "of" in a sense of belonging to, or being the property of. For example, Maria Perez marries Juan Gonzalez. She becomes María Perez de Gonzalez, effectively indicating that she is the "property of" this particular Sr. Gonzalez. Although some women decide to keep their maiden name, the usual practice is to drop the maiden name after the marriage, i.e. Maria de Gonzalez. Once the couple divorces or if she becomes a widow, her maiden name is restored, as her husband's name is not really hers, is a loaner. However, at least in Panama, where I'm from and where I live, by law a married woman can opt to keep her maiden name, even after marriage, becoming Mrs. Maria Perez (no longer Miss Maria Perez). This has been done largely because professional titles are issued under the birth name of the person (unless it was legally changed, but not by marriage, divorce or demise). So, a woman with a professional title, will keep her maiden name in her professional life, although she is entitled to use her husband's name, i.e.: Dr. Maria Perez. Not Dr. Maria Perez de Gonzalez.
I think it is nice to have the choice to keep being your father's daughter.
In addition, what happend to children born out of wedlock? In Panama, it is the child's right to have the father's surname. If said father wants nothing to do with the child, if the mother declares that he is the father he will be legally charged with giving the child his surname and child support. If later on it is found through DNA testing that said child is not his, then he can opt to witdraw his name and is no longer obligated to support the child. The child then receives the mother's paternal surname. In most Latinamerican countries, people is custom to use both paternal and maternal surnames, in that order.
It is no longer an option if the mother doesn't want to name the father of the child, she is legally obligated to disclose it. It is the "Responsible Parenthood" Law, looking to allow every child to have a name and the means to live and study. And to keep deadbeat fathers from facing their responsibilities...
Dec 4, 2013 6:30 AM CST women keeping husbannds name after divorce
sassienolonger2life's like that....!!!, Queensland Australia14 Threads395 Posts
sassienolonger2life's like that....!!!, Queensland Australia395 posts
Tomcats2: Is it right that women keep their marrie name when they divore their husbands ps this is not an attack woman thread
I actually had my ex husband throw this at me not so long ago - short answer "Yes", why? because legally it is my name - I had to supply 100 points to change my drivers licence, tax, bank account so on and so forth - plus I share my surname with my children - the friends I made while being married only know me as Mrs X -
at first you I hurt and I was angry, "how dare you" - but you know something - I have set things in motion to change my name back to maiden, mind you instead of Mrs I know use Ms, and I still wear a ring on my left hand, not my wedding band - nope had his and mine melted down into a something I liked ... tough, he only wore it 3 times during the whole 21 years of being married... some of my children had a attitude problem with me using my maiden - like I was disassociating from them - besides at the end of the day, who really cares - I answer to both - I am still the mother of my children and I was the first Mrs...lol
tarris: they will only keep the name if there is financial or social gain
I think it is more likely that they keep the name if children are involved. It protects the children in getting asked "why does your mommy have a different name?"
bodleing: Waiting for someone to say, why should they have to take the mans name in the first place...
Well, in Belgium, the women can't take the husband's name when they get married. I think it should be that way everywhere. they can decide what last bame the kids take or do it like in Spain - take both parents' last name
equiya: Well, in Belgium, the women can't take the husband's name when they get married. I think it should be that way everywhere. they can decide what last bame the kids take or do it like in Spain - take both parents' last name
I think now that we have science to determine the father of children - historicially in most countries women took the husbands name to ensure the children of the marriage for given legal standing -
In some cultures the status can be taken from the man's side or the women. In some native American (indian) tribes if the wife is indian the children are considered indian, and this is not so of children with an indian husband and a non-indian wife. The tribe will recognize and grant tribal rights to those children
The main reason I have kept mine is because so many legal aspects are associated with my name and it would be horrific to have to change everything back to my maiden name, which I didn't like by the way
My ex wife kept my name for the sake of our daughter, however, she recently had a baby boy, and I find he also has my family name, not sure I am happy about that, I understand the logistics, but he is not my son and nothing to do with my family other than being my daughters half brother. I asked her to use his fathers name, but it seems she didn't want to do that..........
Dec 4, 2013 4:25 PM CST women keeping husbannds name after divorce
sassienolonger2life's like that....!!!, Queensland Australia14 Threads395 Posts
sassienolonger2life's like that....!!!, Queensland Australia395 posts
Isn't taken a can't surname cultural..? . Dating back to forever.. I know I never wanted to change my name, in fact I wanted double barrel, but it wasn'taccepted by the Anglican minister.. And I am not saying that based on religion, just maybe he was old school
3) I'm lazy and don't feel like standing in a government line for 4 hours on my day off for a form I have to mail back in and a stamp from a county clerk 2 months later.
Infamous66copenhagen, Capital Region Denmark64 posts
sassienolonger2: even the vikings wives took on the husband'a name
This is actually not right. The vikings used patronyms. So they where caring their fathers name.. This is the orign of all the sen and son names comming from Scandinavia.
Its still like that on Iceland, all members of the family have different lastname - why the Icelandic phonebook is sorted after firstname. :)
Tnpseudonym: 1) It is cheaper 2) less confusion for the kids
3) I'm lazy and don't feel like standing in a government line for 4 hours on my day off for a form I have to mail back in and a stamp from a county clerk 2 months later.
Really though, I'm just too lazy.
It didnt cause any confusion for my kids, as I said earlier, I had my Fathers surname and they had theirs.
And the money thing seems to be different around the world. Doesnt cost a cent here.
Dec 4, 2013 6:02 PM CST women keeping husbannds name after divorce
sassienolonger2life's like that....!!!, Queensland Australia14 Threads395 Posts
sassienolonger2life's like that....!!!, Queensland Australia395 posts
Depends here in Au..some cases I need the divorce papers and other things my birth certificate..although I need a small fortune to remove ex's name off morgage
Dec 4, 2013 7:53 PM CST women keeping husbannds name after divorce
sassienolonger2life's like that....!!!, Queensland Australia14 Threads395 Posts
sassienolonger2life's like that....!!!, Queensland Australia395 posts
Infamous66: This is actually not right. The vikings used patronyms. So they where caring their fathers name.. This is the orign of all the sen and son names comming from Scandinavia.
Its still like that on Iceland, all members of the family have different lastname - why the Icelandic phonebook is sorted after firstname. :)
Yes you are quite right.. Surnames also came about depending on location, occupation ,and as a male, your position in the So that begs the question when and who decided that women needed to change their names in the first place?
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ps this is not an attack woman thread
I kept my x-husbands surname, not because I want to, but I don't want to have a different surname than my kids.