Is Israel Worth the Cost? ( Archived) (164)

Jan 21, 2007 1:50 PM CST Is Israel Worth the Cost?
IamDonny
IamDonnyIamDonnyLA, California USA6 Threads 61 Posts
For the many readers who have requested a brief synopsis of the moral arguments in the Arab-Israeli conflict, I offer the following list of numerical data.

Number of times Jerusalem is mentioned in the Old Testament: over 700

Number of times Jerusalem is mentioned in the Koran: 0

Number of Arab leaders who visited Jerusalem when it was under Arab rule (1948 to 1967): 1

Number of Arab refugees who fled the land that became Israel: approximately 600,000

Number of Jewish refugees who fled Arab countries: approximately 600,000

Number of U.N. agencies that deal only with Palestinian refugees: 1

Number of U.N. agencies that deal with all the other refugees in the world: 1

Number of Jewish states that have existed on the land called Palestine: 3

Number of Arab or Muslim states that have existed on the land called Palestine: 0

Number of terrorist attacks by Israelis or Jews since 1967: 1

Number of terrorist attacks by Arabs or Muslims since 1967: thousands

Percentage of Jews who have praised the Jewish terrorist: approximately .1

Percentage of Palestinians who have praised Islamic terrorists: approximately 90

Number of Jewish countries: 1

Number of Jewish democracies: 1

Number of Arab countries: 19

Number of Arab democracies: 0

Number of Arab women killed annually by fathers and brothers in "honor killings": thousands

Number of Jewish women killed annually by fathers and brothers in "honor killings": 0

Number of Christian or Jewish prayer services allowed in Saudi Arabia: 0

Number of Muslim prayer services allowed in Israel: unlimited

Number of Arabs Israel allows to live in Arab settlements in Israel: 1,250,000

Number of Jews Palestinian Authority allows to live in Jewish settlements in Palestinian Authority: 0

Percentage of U.N. Commission on Human Rights resolutions condemning an Arab country for human rights violations: 0

Percentage of U.N. Commission on Human Rights resolutions condemning Israel for human rights violations: 26

Number of U.N. Security Council resolutions on the Middle East between 1948 and 1991: 175

Number of these resolutions against Israel: 97

Number of these resolutions against an Arab state: 4

Number of Arab countries that have been members of the U.N. Security Council: 16

Number of times Israel has been a member of the U.N. Security Council: 0

Number of U.N. General Assembly resolutions condemning Israel: 322

Number of U.N. General Assembly resolutions condemning an Arab country: 0

Percentage of U.N. votes in which Arab countries voted with the United States in 2002: 16.6

Percentage of U.N. votes in which Israel voted with the United States in 2002: 92.6

Percentage of Middle East Studies professors who defend Zionism and Israel: approximately 1.

Percentage of Middle East Studies professors who believe in diversity on college campuses: 100

Percentage of people who argue that the Jewish state has no right to exist who also believe some other country has no right to exist: 0

Percentage of people who argue that of all the countries in the world, only the Jewish state has no right to exist and yet deny they are anti-Jewish: approximately 100

Number of Muslims in the world: more than 1 billion

Number of Muslim demonstrations against Islamic terror: approximately 2
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Jan 21, 2007 1:52 PM CST Is Israel Worth the Cost?
Lionhearted1967
Lionhearted1967Lionhearted1967London, Ontario Canada143 Threads 10 Polls 9,887 Posts
You must be Jewish huh?
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Jan 21, 2007 1:59 PM CST Is Israel Worth the Cost?
nfowler
nfowlernfowlernowhere, Washington USA89 Threads 2,634 Posts
I love it when they find a propaganda page on the internet.
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Jan 21, 2007 2:01 PM CST Is Israel Worth the Cost?
bl8ant
bl8antbl8antAmsterdam, North Holland Netherlands3 Threads 1,000 Posts
she must be israelihelp doh
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Jan 21, 2007 2:04 PM CST Is Israel Worth the Cost?
Lionhearted1967
Lionhearted1967Lionhearted1967London, Ontario Canada143 Threads 10 Polls 9,887 Posts
Not a good representaion if she is... doh
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Jan 21, 2007 2:08 PM CST Is Israel Worth the Cost?
Icarus799
Icarus799Icarus799Chicago, Illinois USA16 Threads 287 Posts
Why do these posts smack of Mitchel?
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Jan 21, 2007 2:10 PM CST Is Israel Worth the Cost?
nfowler
nfowlernfowlernowhere, Washington USA89 Threads 2,634 Posts
All right that is not coolscold
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Jan 21, 2007 2:12 PM CST Is Israel Worth the Cost?
palhaco
palhacopalhacoBoston, USA4 Threads 324 Posts
I can't stand when people are automatically labeled as an anti-semetic just because they disagree with something someone else thinks, or they disagree with Israeli politics or policy.
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Jan 21, 2007 2:13 PM CST Is Israel Worth the Cost?
Icarus799
Icarus799Icarus799Chicago, Illinois USA16 Threads 287 Posts
Let me elaborate: the ability to spell deteriorates; resorts to pulling random stuff off of the Internet({s) if you're Bush) ad nauseam.
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Jan 21, 2007 2:15 PM CST Is Israel Worth the Cost?
It's first and ten big guy...41 52 hut hut...

You guess it is 50 cents? Yet you speak of uninformed people.

One softdrink behind in life? Man you have some issues..tongue

I do not like the idea that we or I help pay for another country
to prosper and grow, while we have our own mess right here to clean up.
I posted in this thread to lighten up the crazy person that brought it back up. I was joking. Yet you just had to insult me.
Well Dough boy, lighten up have a few more oreos. grin
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Jan 21, 2007 2:26 PM CST Is Israel Worth the Cost?
Icarus799
Icarus799Icarus799Chicago, Illinois USA16 Threads 287 Posts
This is the problem with rabid Zionists. They can't differentiate between religion/race and nationality. The comparison is flawed because the Jewish Nobel laureates have all lived in the West, where there's a culture of open and critical thinking with centers of academic excellence churning out research. In contrast most of the Islamic countries find themselves living in poverty. The number of Nobel prizes is a triumph of the West not of being Jewish.
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Jan 21, 2007 2:29 PM CST Is Israel Worth the Cost?
Lionhearted1967
Lionhearted1967Lionhearted1967London, Ontario Canada143 Threads 10 Polls 9,887 Posts
I agree that we should be doing more for our own country before it all falls apart.
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Jan 21, 2007 2:36 PM CST Is Israel Worth the Cost?
Lionhearted1967
Lionhearted1967Lionhearted1967London, Ontario Canada143 Threads 10 Polls 9,887 Posts
My sister spent the millenium is Isreal. She stayed with a Palestinian Family. She said for the most part the Isreali people were stuck up to her.
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Jan 21, 2007 2:37 PM CST Is Israel Worth the Cost?
Lionhearted1967
Lionhearted1967Lionhearted1967London, Ontario Canada143 Threads 10 Polls 9,887 Posts
The family in Palestine treated her like family...
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Jan 21, 2007 2:41 PM CST Is Israel Worth the Cost?
DamnitsCloudy
DamnitsCloudyDamnitsCloudyLexington, USA22 Threads 2,578 Posts
Maybe the Isreali's are related to the French? jking! (french girl will beat me over the head for this one lol)
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Jan 21, 2007 2:47 PM CST Is Israel Worth the Cost?
RillyNiceGuy
RillyNiceGuyRillyNiceGuySoutheast, Arkansas USA839 Threads 13,003 Posts
The problem is not a people or nation. It is each and everyone of us. Listen to yourselves. Filled with hate. Willing to nuke children and women from your yard because they have nukes or are killing children and women. You are no better than them.

If you feel so strong about things. Join the PEACEFULL people that are trying to do good instead of just bit*hing.

Quit bit*hing and pursue peace between yourselves first. If you can't do that which is tiny, how can you judge that which is bigger.
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Jan 21, 2007 2:52 PM CST Is Israel Worth the Cost?
plughead
plugheadplugheadballina, Mayo Ireland7 Threads 302 Posts
hear,hear,spot on comments!applause
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Jan 21, 2007 2:55 PM CST Is Israel Worth the Cost?
Icarus799
Icarus799Icarus799Chicago, Illinois USA16 Threads 287 Posts
This is such a silly argument that it needs a further rebuttal. How many Ethiopian Jews (and there's a good number) have won the Nobel prize? How many Argentinian Jews? On the flip side more Christians have won the Nobel prize than any other religion but you'll find that Christians from Sub-Saharan Africa will not have won any?
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Jan 21, 2007 3:04 PM CST Is Israel Worth the Cost?
He HE HE....

Are you an editor, or something? Relax, take a deep breath. Seeking peace between who? You are the one throwing out nasty comments about our reply's. If you want to discuse your views that would be great.
Maybe you could even enlighten me on somethings.

Throwing out nasty crap like your sending out is not a discustion.
It is just uncalled for.

You can reach more people if you walk while you preach.
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Jan 21, 2007 3:08 PM CST Is Israel Worth the Cost?
Frenchgirl2know
Frenchgirl2knowFrenchgirl2knowChicago, USA29 Threads 2,548 Posts
rolling on the floor laughing
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