finally an honest politician speaks up against china (54)

Aug 23, 2014 8:22 PM CST finally an honest politician speaks up against china
robplum
robplumrobplumEnsay, Victoria Australia107 Threads 1 Polls 12,031 Posts
yeah purchased couple Shanks pre-sealed junk, smelt like crap as all pre-seal, cooked them and still stank, tasted tiny bit and spewed straight away. Was not happy
Aug 24, 2014 3:29 AM CST finally an honest politician speaks up against china
arapaho
arapahoarapahobrisbane, Queensland Australia3 Threads 678 Posts
I don't think Clive Palmer is an honest politician,
Aug 24, 2014 3:30 AM CST finally an honest politician speaks up against china
wash2u
wash2uwash2uMelbourne, Victoria Australia79 Threads 1 Polls 3,768 Posts
fishinacreek: how you going mate?
geez they've taken over all the smaller iga grocery shops,every time you go to get a piece of meat its had the label changed to make it sound fresh,and its a week out of date lol,given up how many times ive taken food back too them ,starting to piss me off.We never had a war against them ,but theyre killing us in other ways lol


IGA stands for Independant Grocers Association and way back in the '70s was WA based moving across into SA & Vic by the late 70s. It was made up of smaller independant grocers who combined their buying power to try to become competitive. In NSW, there were a couple of similar groups, MFC being 1 although I forget the other. And a big supplier to the independants was run under the wholesale banner of Davids Holdings.

They were combating the big retailers such as Franklins, Permewans, Coles, Safeways, and Woolworths. In NSW, it was Jewels & Grace Bros competing against these big companies around 1980.

Interestingly, one hardware chain (Mitre 10 I think) was started by a few independant stores buying in bulk to get massive dicounts. The Kingsbury Hardware Store in Sydney bought cement by the semitrailer load and then sold it off in smaller quantities to other members. Oddly enough, Mr Kingsbury died of a lung condition related to ingestion of cement dust.

When ex#1 & I had our store, it was cheaper to by Coke (the cola variety) from one of our confectioners than direct from C-C. Our smallgoods came from a small wholesaler who kept costs well below buying direct from the 'manufacturers.'
Aug 24, 2014 3:32 AM CST finally an honest politician speaks up against china
wash2u
wash2uwash2uMelbourne, Victoria Australia79 Threads 1 Polls 3,768 Posts
arapaho: I don't think Clive Palmer is an honest politician,


Now that is what I do believe is called an oxymoron.


Bit like "Council worker" isn't it?
Aug 24, 2014 3:54 AM CST finally an honest politician speaks up against china
robplum
robplumrobplumEnsay, Victoria Australia107 Threads 1 Polls 12,031 Posts
But AFR Weekend can reveal Palmer does have a string of close associates who he uses as sounding boards for his ­political and business strategies.




Elder was former Labor premier Peter Beattie’s right-hand man before he quit the party after becoming embroiled in the Shepherdson inquiry into electoral fraud in 2000. He’s now a lobbyist helping push through Palmer’s $8 billion Waratah Coal project.

Martino also has a colourful past. He resigned as Deloitte boss in 2003 over his involvement with another ­company, New Tel, was under investigation for trading while insolvent.
Aug 24, 2014 4:04 AM CST finally an honest politician speaks up against china
wash2u
wash2uwash2uMelbourne, Victoria Australia79 Threads 1 Polls 3,768 Posts
robplum: But AFR Weekend can reveal Palmer does have a string of close associates who he uses as sounding boards for his ­political and business strategies.

was former Labor premier Peter Beattie’s right-hand man before he quit the party after becoming embroiled in the Shepherdson inquiry into electoral fraud in 2000. He’s now a lobbyist helping push through Palmer’s $8 billion Waratah Coal project.

Martino also has a colourful past. He resigned as Deloitte boss in 2003 over his involvement with another ­company, New Tel, was under investigation for trading while insolvent.


I do find it interesting the description of former advisor, right-hand-man, lobbyist popping up as "assisting current" players in many schemes.

This is a bit like former la-boring Premiers of NSW who did not drive telling us how we should be transported and what road, rail & bus transport should be upgraded.
Aug 24, 2014 4:18 AM CST finally an honest politician speaks up against china
robplum
robplumrobplumEnsay, Victoria Australia107 Threads 1 Polls 12,031 Posts
the ongoing Australian two party system has a political club like mentality, it is utterly corrupt, Qld and NSW probably more so than other States, while federally it is probably more wide spread than just those two States

Currently the current PM is knowingly in breach of the constitution stealing half my veterans pension and often telling falsehoods
Aug 24, 2014 4:27 AM CST finally an honest politician speaks up against china
robplum
robplumrobplumEnsay, Victoria Australia107 Threads 1 Polls 12,031 Posts
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Submitted on Wednesday, 2 July 2014 - 7:38am


Title: Mr
First name: Robert
Family name: Plumtree
Email address:deleted
Your address: PO Box 30, SWIFTS CREEK, VIC, 3896
Subject: Your in breach the Constitution unlawfully taxing half of my Veterans Pension
Comment:
Persons acting under the Family Court Act took away all my Family interests, desecrated temple Gyalwa Ensapa in the process took away my lawful business interests, the ATO took away my tax file number and at the time unlawfully took away my right to vote in Commonwealth Elections to this datei have been unable to have those matters address by an honest person or government body.
Now government is stealing (I mean stealing) more than half of my Veterans income support payments. Government is acting in breach of 55. of the Constitution being Laws imposing taxation shall deal only with the imposition of taxation, and any provision therein dealing with any other matter shall be of no effect.
Laws imposing taxation, except laws imposing duties of customs or of excise, shall deal with one subject of taxation only: but laws imposing duties of customs shall deal with duties of customs only, and laws imposing duties of excise shall deal with duties of excise only. In breach of the Constitution and by virtue your christian thought process stealing from my pension with your unlawful cigarette tax.
You do not have a right to impose your christian views on others, you are elected to serve all the peoples resident in Australia, you are elected servant with an obligation to uphold the provisions of the Constitution and do right by all manner of people including me.
One carton of cigarettes (8 packets) worth about $2.00 is now costing $177.00, I smoke and have a lawful right to do so.
Please stop stealing from my Veterans Pension, your acting in the like manner of a thief.
faithfully
Robert F Plumtree
Aug 24, 2014 4:33 AM CST finally an honest politician speaks up against china
robplum
robplumrobplumEnsay, Victoria Australia107 Threads 1 Polls 12,031 Posts
always evenhanded i also sent this

Dear Clive Palmer,

The Commonwealth Government in breach of section 55 of the Constitution is taxing half of my Veterans Pension.
55. Laws imposing taxation shall deal only with the imposition of taxation, and any provision therein dealing with any other matter shall be of no effect.
Laws imposing taxation, except laws imposing duties of customs or of excise, shall deal with one subject of taxation only: but laws imposing duties of customs shall deal with duties of customs only, and laws imposing duties of excise shall deal with duties of excise only.

Please listen, some years ago the Department of Veterans Affairs asked Vietnam Veterans to stop smoking as many of us have smoked from our time in Vietnam, sadly sufferering from hardend arteries caused by quiting within five six months at least five Veterans died as a direct result of quiting and the Department promptly stopped requesting Veterans to stop.

Personally I checked with a Doctor and his advice was any damage has already occurred and it is far to dangerous to stop now. Further both my parents also suffered heart attacks as other veterans I've met did soon after quiting smoking.

I am Buddist person, my setting Member was Peter Slipper until he was stabbed in the back by the Liberal Party Peter had the courage to stand in the House on my behalf on a number of occassions, I am now unrepersented by any Member of Parliament.

Will you please have the balls to stand in the House of Parliament and demand Tony Abbott stop pushing his Christian self rightgousness rubbish in stealing half of my Veterans Pension, I have a lawful right to smoke and Abbott is using Parliament to impose his crap on others in breach of our Constitution.
The Federal Government is stealing half of my Veterans Pension under the disguise they are trying to dischourge the younger generation to quite smoking at the expensive of others, Government is pushing a flawed Christain view on others and that's unlawfull.

Please stop Government breaching the Constitution.
Aug 24, 2014 4:39 AM CST finally an honest politician speaks up against china
wash2u
wash2uwash2uMelbourne, Victoria Australia79 Threads 1 Polls 3,768 Posts
robplum: the ongoing Australian two party system has a political club like mentality, it is utterly corrupt, Qld and NSW probably more so than other States, while federally it is probably more wide spread than just those two States

Currently the current PM is knowingly in breach of the constitution stealing half my veterans pension and often telling falsehoods


Rob, like many others, you refer to a "2 Party System" for our politics. If you every look at the number of parties trying to influence our system of Government, you will see there are many different parties trying to influence how our Govt should be run,

A few years ago it was the Greens saying we should stop using our precious water to feed the world population - okay, there were a lot of people making money from selling irrigated food while some species of flora and fauna were suffering the consequences of the drought.

Now we have accepted/voted the PUPpy party (with a "Let's be rev-heads" supporter) dictating who should profit within Australia.

Victoria at one time had the DLP (Democratic Labor Party) having a big say in Victorian politics. Problem was that they were not left enough for the ALP but too far right for the Libs.
Aug 24, 2014 4:52 AM CST finally an honest politician speaks up against china
epirb
epirbepirbDannevirke, Hawke's Bay New Zealand32 Threads 2 Polls 7,379 Posts
robplum: the ongoing Australian two party system has a political club like mentality, it is utterly corrupt, Qld and NSW probably more so than other States, while federally it is probably more wide spread than just those two States

Currently the current PM is knowingly in breach of the constitution stealing half my veterans pension and often telling falsehoods
Aug 24, 2014 4:53 AM CST finally an honest politician speaks up against china
wash2u
wash2uwash2uMelbourne, Victoria Australia79 Threads 1 Polls 3,768 Posts
Rob, have earnt a wage/salary in Australia and duly paid Income Tax since 1969 (worked for a few years before but no tax involved) where that income Tax went towards a number of things. Part of that had gone to my grandmother and great-grandmother recieving an income in recognition for the many years that they worked to benefit Australia as a whole. Oops, did not happen as soon as when they stopped working or their spouse died. Grandma had to do housework (cleaning/laundry) to ensure that my father and aunt could finish their schooling. Great-grandmother was married to a wealthy builder of the time.

Sorry but you may have fought under an NZ Govt policy but I do know that your income well exceeds mine at this time and if that does exceed the poverty line...................
Aug 24, 2014 4:55 AM CST finally an honest politician speaks up against china
epirb
epirbepirbDannevirke, Hawke's Bay New Zealand32 Threads 2 Polls 7,379 Posts
robplum: the ongoing Australian two party system has a political club like mentality, it is utterly corrupt, Qld and NSW probably more so than other States, while federally it is probably more wide spread than just those two States

Currently the current PM is knowingly in breach of the constitution stealing half my veterans pension and often telling falsehoods
your bloody mates fiddling with this site Robo , you must be spending too much on Tabaco , still somebody has to pay for governmental booze
Aug 24, 2014 5:05 AM CST finally an honest politician speaks up against china
robplum
robplumrobplumEnsay, Victoria Australia107 Threads 1 Polls 12,031 Posts
wash2u: Rob, have earnt a wage/salary in Australia and duly paid Income Tax since 1969 (worked for a few years before but no tax involved) where that income Tax went towards a number of things. Part of that had gone to my grandmother and great-grandmother recieving an income in recognition for the many years that they worked to benefit Australia as a whole. Oops, did not happen as soon as when they stopped working or their spouse died. Grandma had to do housework (cleaning/laundry) to ensure that my father and aunt could finish their schooling. Great-grandmother was married to a wealthy builder of the time.

Sorry but you may have fought under an NZ Govt policy but I do know that your income well exceeds mine at this time and if that does exceed the poverty line...................

NZ government pays what i receive back to the Australian government, annually i am currently getting by on Australian Commonwealth Veterans pension of around AU$10,700 + plus NZ War caused disability of AU$23 per day
You have little idea about that Wash
Aug 24, 2014 5:10 AM CST finally an honest politician speaks up against china
robplum
robplumrobplumEnsay, Victoria Australia107 Threads 1 Polls 12,031 Posts
Australian Commonwealth Veterans pension of around AU$10,700 the figure is having regard to the money abbotts stealing
Aug 24, 2014 5:30 AM CST finally an honest politician speaks up against china
robplum
robplumrobplumEnsay, Victoria Australia107 Threads 1 Polls 12,031 Posts
Abbott and Co are stealing just on $300 per fortnight from my pension, the servant thief is stealing annually $450,000 off Australians to uphold the Constitution, represent the people in his electric and manage the affairs of politicians in parliament
He is taxing Veterans pension while pushing his utterly flawed views in breach of the Constitution
Aug 24, 2014 5:41 AM CST finally an honest politician speaks up against china
epirb
epirbepirbDannevirke, Hawke's Bay New Zealand32 Threads 2 Polls 7,379 Posts
robplum: Abbott and Co are stealing just on $300 per fortnight from my pension, the servant thief is stealing annually $450,000 off Australians to uphold the Constitution, represent the people in his electric and manage the affairs of politicians in parliament
He is taxing Veterans pension while pushing his utterly flawed views in breach of the Constitution
you would be better of on national super in NZ apart from the bloody cold .
Aug 24, 2014 5:43 AM CST finally an honest politician speaks up against china
robplum
robplumrobplumEnsay, Victoria Australia107 Threads 1 Polls 12,031 Posts
yeah i loose with $NZ cross rate
get about 2 1/3s what Aussie veterans getting
Aug 24, 2014 6:00 AM CST finally an honest politician speaks up against china
robplum
robplumrobplumEnsay, Victoria Australia107 Threads 1 Polls 12,031 Posts
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Aug 24, 2014 6:03 AM CST finally an honest politician speaks up against china
robplum
robplumrobplumEnsay, Victoria Australia107 Threads 1 Polls 12,031 Posts
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